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This will only increase my dislike of the BBC.

iplayer was starting to make me think the licence fee was worth the money, then they go and do this.


http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/8240206.stm

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As much as I dislike them, they are a legitimate registered political party, so I'm having a hard time seeing why they should be excluded.

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The Nazi party in Germany was a legitimate party as well and look where that got us. Why does this country never learn from past mistakes.

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IIRC Martin McGuinness has appeared on it and I'm sure that he didn't become a leader in the IRA by just supplying nice sandwiches at the Army Council meetings(or whatever).

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Don't see the problem with this since they are a legitimate party.

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Can anyone else see how much of an amazing opportunity this is for the BNP to show how inept and pathetic they are?

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Yes, that's another reason why I'm all for it :D

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Personally I am interested in hearing what they have to say on questiontime I mean after all they must be doing something right after gaining all those council seats and being elected to European parliament.

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I thought the BBC's impartiality was beyond reproach? The fact they say "may consider" inviting the BNP shows they aren't as much as they should be.

As others have suggested they are a legitimate party. With all due respect if people think that banning them or marginalising them is the best way of dealing with them then they are either naive or foolish.

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will the program come from a city with known racial tensions or some peaceful little corner of tree hugger suburbia ?

could be an interesting debate cant wait :erm:

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Hiroki, the BNP gained 3 seats out of nearly 2400 contested in the 2009 Council Elections - not really a lot, is it?;)

btw, I look forward to the BNP being on Question Time.

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From the article in the OP
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I'd like to see them put forward their ideas on current topics.

They'll either be good, bad or indifferent.... they're politicians after all.

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I had this argument with a very prominent union leader a few years ago, who'd previously always refused, as a matter of principle, to debate with the BNP and their ilk.

The point I successfully made to him was that the best way to defeat the likes of the BNP is to lay bare their policies and arguments NOT to turn them into 'victims' of political bias and, in so doing, make their argument for them. I hate the BNP but I'd defend their right to exist and would like to be able to debate their views and challenge their policies.

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I did read that but I think its a long way from impartiality. The BNP formed in 1982, only 27 years later being considered? If they were impartial they would have made sure all parties got equal exposure or at the very least some exposure.

And also if no parties can dictate who cannot be on the show, why the need for "talks" with other parties?

I can understand why the BBC doesn't want to touch the BNP - its a PR nightmare for them. However they can't then claim to be impartial by excluding them.

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Also, IIRC, although they won two seats at the European Parliament, the actual number of votes Griffin & Brons received was lower than the number of votes the BNP candidates for those constituencies received at the previous European elections...but although their actual number of votes was lower than last time, the total number of votes was lower also (fewer people bothering to vote at all), & so the BNP's share was higher than before & so they scraped in under the PR system used.


They may have formed back then, but it took several years before they appeared even remotely acceptable, given the BNP of old used to be quite open about its racist policies e.g. forced repatriation.

Plus of course it is only relatively recently that they have made any kind of real electoral gains. Why would anyone have given them a platform like QT years ago, when they had zero seats at all.

How many other fringe parties appear on QT?

Re. "talks" with other parties... Well, if other parties say "We won't be on it if they are!", what else can the BBC do? Have the BNP represented on the show, but with zero members of other parties, or have the various other parties, but with no BNP presence?


As others have said though, I would like the BNP to appear on it, then people can see them for what they are.

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They only won two seats in the European Elections, but received getting on for 1 million votes(6.2%) of the votes cast.

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It does sound insignificant when people say they only won two seats, what should be noted, and concerned about is as you say close in 1 million people had their heads turned by a Racist ( or so called ) party.

But yes, let them appear on Question time, should liven up an otherwise dull Thursday night.

Our Government surrendered to the IRA, They let a convicted bomber fly home on the promise of an oil deal, so after them two examples alone what's all the fuss ?

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They didn't do well. They did what Facists often do. They profited as a result of voter apathy.

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Well, we are still technically a democracy. That means that any political party has a right to hold their own beliefs and express them, no matter how much other people may find them objectionable or offensive.


The BNP are personally offensive to me (as I have stated many times on this forum), but they *are* a legitimate party.

Besides, they do seem to have an unerring habit of making themselves look bad, so giving them more exposure could be a good thing.

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I do not like the idea of the BNP having any form of media attention from any mainstream news media, but I think if they do appear on this programme that they are so blinkered that they will trip themselves up big time on air and that will be an opportunity not to be missed.

Just think about some of the questions that will be asked and how they will try to answer them, it could end up being similar to shooting fish in a barrel.

I would hope that on the same programme we would have the likes of Shami Chakrabarti on the panel.

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I hope they give Dimbleby the night off, hire Krishnan Guru-Murthy to chair it, then invite Shami Chakrabarti, Diane Abbot, Adam Afriyie, Parmjit Singh Gill and Lenny Henry to be on the panel.

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Which would defeat the object in the first place?

Deliberately skewing things out of neutral and away from their favour isn't going to help.

You don't have to rig the jury to send the BNP down. A level playing field would do. Even if the jury was rigged it would achieve a meaningless result.

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Crumbs, dude, relax and enjoy the satire for goodness sake!

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some fine old English names on that list why would mr nick object;)

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Oh I agree with that and I agree with a lot of what everyone has said but like every other political party I would like to hear what they have to say before I judge them.

Nothing wrong with at least doing that, right?

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There's always their website, which gives their views on quite a range of topics.

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True but what I'd like is their views exposed, debated and tested in public on national TV. That's the only way to beat extremists.

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Entertainment wise this will be a good episode to watch. I can just see David trying to calm the crowd down while Nick's security people looking for the exit.

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The best antidote for the BNP are the BNP themselves, whenever they appear in a public forum they try and play down their racist policies, then end up contradicting themselves.
They maybe able to convince a pub full of pie-eyed skinhead knuckledraggers that they are the answer to Britain's problems, but put them in front of an audience with more than two brain cells and they fall apart....bring em on.

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This is the situation that we have had for some time and the BNP have played up to it.Time to call their bluff and to really put them to the test.If other political parties won't appear with them then they have completely lost the point and the plot and are failing a chance to really put the BNP in their place.

A good healthy debate between all parties should sort the real politicians out from the racist,fascist bullies.

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Perhaps the panel could be asked about this story of 5(so far) racist attacks.

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As I am sure they will be, if racist attacks are discussed.

Or are you raising the oft-repeated "Straw Man" argument that only attacks by Indigenous Britons on ethnic minorities are reported/treated as racist attacks? (which seems to be contradicted by your BBC link, in which it is stated)

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One thing people are missing is what the BNP say and what they do are very different things. It's very irritating when I hear people take the BNP's catchphrases to heart and then claim it shows they are not that bad. Suddenly people who claim not to believe anything politicians say are suddenly eager to take the BNP for their word, despite all the evidence of things they do/say behind the scenes.

Nick Griffin won't say anything racist, he will make straw man arguments and say things to which no one would disagree. Someone who question him on the racist aspect and he will say something like "We just want British people to have priority on national services, and people claim it's racist. They are just being Politically Correct". Cue lots of cheering by the morons who follow him and his goons as they cite it as evidence of the BNP not being racists. They will choose to remain ignorant of the racist aspects of the BNP (white's only, deportation of those who are not white and British) because although that's what they desire they do not want to admit to others. Cowards.

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So, not much different than the 3 main political parties & their leaders then!

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...But at least Lib/Lab/Con don't restrict membership to whites only, or want to "repatriate" non-white British Citizens to their "countries of ethnic origin", etc...

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I don't think having restricted membership is a problem really ,after all there are plenty of blacks only ,women only ,men only ,asian only ect .that's not the problem ,the real problem imo is because the mainstream parties i.e con ,lab,lib havn't addressed the imigration problem then groups like the BNP are allowed a platform to promote their racist propoganda simply because as far as joe blogs is concerened no one else will sort it out

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Why should they be excluded from any debate? They have won 2 seats in the European Elections. It's only the Liberals of this country who are kicking off. The BNP are hear to stay so get used to it.

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If you mean addressing the problem along the lines of racial bigotry then no the major political parties haven't addressed the issue if that's the criteria you judge on.However I think they have done their best to keep a balance provided you DON'T rely on the appalling journalistic attempts of The Sun and the Mail to imply that they have failed as EVIDENCE of anything.;)

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Don't see a problem with this at all. We're all old enough, ugly enough and stupid enough to make our own minds up and the more information we are given in order to make us more informed to make these decisions the better.

A huge fear of the BNP being on QT strikes me as a fear of liking some things they may say, which is I'm afraid inevitable. It's very hard to disagree with 100% of what a party may say, even PM Mandelson's party says the odd thing that makes some kind of sense.

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If we don't allow even 'extreme' political parties freedom of expression and democracy we can't criticise other countries who deny those rights to groups we support.

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I don't see anyone here claiming we should ban the BNP, just questioning if the BBC should invite what is essentially a group that festers hate and racism onto Question Time.

They do have their freedom of expression and democracy hence their right to have meetings, stand in elections, have a website and so on.

However, Freedom of expression and democracy does not entitle people to a platform.

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That's just it, 'extreme' political parties are allowed freedom of expression, but only selected ones. The real fascists are the ones that make that selection and impose it, often using violence or non-violent sanctions that seriously affect peoples lives and jobs.

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So who is it gets to choose those who is and who isn't allowed a platform?

The reason Labour loses votes to the BNP in certain areas, is that the traditional Labour voters see people who will only truly support their own race, selected as Labour candidates that are supported by racists who will only vote for that person based on their race, and see no choice but to vote BNP to take action against the racists in the Labour party.

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Surely the main reason they lose out to the BNP is the media whip up a story which doesn't actualy exist (ie 'winterval'), people then believe it without question then blame the government for allowing it to happen.

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It was actually the Daily Mail who invented Winterval. The BNP do invent crimes (Richard Barnbrook made up murders committed by Asians) or accuse minorities of committing crimes for which white people were eventually arrested.

I agree with your point though, The BNP fabricate stories for political gain.

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Who ever owns the platform

Yes, People vote BNP to stop racism. That's why they vote for a party that wants an all-white UK. The BNP are clear racists, people who support these policies should admit it and stop pretending it's not racist.

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Name me one Political party that doesn't?????????????

The BBC is a public service broacaster, a broadcaster that is supoosed to be free of the populist agenda. The BNP is a British political party and have as much right as other minority parties (plaid cymru, UKIP, Respect) and indeed independants that have graced question time.

BNP are indeed a facist, right wing party. but to suggest that all who vote for them are racists is missing the point completely.

The rise in support for the BNP, is down to failure of the main parties to represent those people in these areas competently.

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I do not believe Labour makes up stories about murders. I haven't seen the Tories start claiming minorities were guilty for crimes that were not committed by them (or not committed at all). The Lib Dems have not made up stories about gangs of Asian rapists either.

The BNP consistently does stuff like this.

And they are getting it. I was simply commenting that free speech does not entire you to a platform from which to speak. Incidentally the only reason the BNP are in is because of their MEP's. Other minority political groups on Question Time have previously achieved more success than the BNP.

Read what I said:
Anyone who supports an All-White Britain is a racist.

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I don't see why anyone would need to make up stories about murders of white people eg Link. IIRC they set out to kill the first white person they came across. There wasn't an argument which escalated, which is what seems to happen in white on non-white cases. There are other cases that I vaguely remember being mentioned on the news, but I cannot remember enough about the cases in order to find the details on the web.

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I don't doubt it, they will sensationalise stories such as this, whereas in most areas where there are no areas of racial tension people will rightly dismiss it.

However, in areas where there is tension it can be powerful tool for them. There are areas not to far from where I live that are "no go" areas after dark if you are white, and these areas there are groups of asian youths setting upon white youths - no different, of course, to areas all round the country where gangs of young white youth set about young asians.

But these areas do exist, reverse racist attacks are a reality, and whilst the main parties hither and dither the BNP will continue to prey on the white people of this areas.

Police are scared to increase their prescence for fear of being called racist and concentrating their efforts in a mainly asian community, this is were the problems start.

not everyone would be voting for the BNP becuase of their all-white Britain policy.

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Because incidents like this are relatively rare and the BNP need them to occur around the time of an election and in the areas they are targeting. Racist attacks occur to both sides, no reason for people to elect BNP because obviously the minorities are punished as well as the non-minorities.

I doubt this is any less or more common a motive than any other race. You do have white people that want to kill black people just because they are racist.

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Rare or simply not widely reported or not even treated as racist?

The high profile white on non-white murders have often been arguments that escalated.

There was a TV news report about the body of a non-white person being found and the report went on and on about there being a racist motive. It was then later declared that the motive probably wasn't racial and that the killer(s) probably came from his own racial group. So why the big emphasis at first on a racial motive?

Time and time again we hear/read reports of a 'racial' crime, which has been nothing more than an argument which involved some name calling. The argument normally has a valid basis which does not involve race, but because one of the participants is white and the other isn't, it gets treated as a racist offence.

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Because only us vile, hateful white folk can be racists....

If Africans run round, and murder 1 million Africians from a different tribe, its called tribalism....

If Pakistanis kill Indians then its asians v's asians....

QED - If a Caucasian kills anyone from any other ethnic group. Then obviously we are racist, nazi ****.... ;)

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To all those people who think the media (or whoever) is saying only white on black attacks are classed as racist - can any of you tell me why anyone wants that to be seen as the case?

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Did anyone say that that no? I even stated above that racial crimes are both ways, and indeed the news reports it.

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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/8277399.stm

Could be interesting, assuming of course Nick Griffin gets a chance to shoot himself in the foot and isn't stopped from taking part or drowned out by protestors.

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He could be asked about being friendly with, and hugging known terrorists. Jack Straw that is, he hugged Yasser Arafat.

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However you may feel about this and whatever your opinion the important thing is to get off your backside and vote. There are many who voice opinions that never vote. The next General Election could be won on a few votes as turn-outs are getting really low in some places. Could even be a hung Parliament.
Don't have moans about it if you don't vote.
George.

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It is the 21st century. you might not have an issue with their colour, but it sells newspapers and it gives the PC's something to feel good about :)

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I'll vote when there's a party out there decent enough to win my confidence. I can't see that happening any time soon though.

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Yes, I wonder how many world leaders have greeted ex-terrorists, such as Yasser Arafat, Gerry Adams/Martin McGuinness, Éamon de Valera, Nelson Mandela, Chairman Mao, Fidel Castro, Colonel Qadafi, et al.

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It's a nice thought but I can't see them messing it up.

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Doesn't look very dark in the picture. Link to story. Just who did he think that he was about to shake hands with? Idi Amin?

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When Nick Griffin shared a stage with David Duke, that was all right, was it? And when he visited Libya on a fundraising trip in 1988 at Colonel Gadafi's expense (just before the Lockerbie bombing), was that OK too?

Who did Nick think he was shaking hands with?

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a) Only one of them was Foreign Secretary.
b) Then both should face the same level of criticism. You cannot single out members of the BNP for criticism for who they meet/associate with, unless you are prepared to see the same criticism levelled against those on the Left and the large(too many to even attempt to list) number of undesirables that they are happy to support.

As you pointed out, Lockerbie happened after the meeting and there are those(not members of BNP), who say that Libya wasn't responsible.

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Hang on, you're the one criticising Jack Straw, but you're yet to criticise Nick Griffin for meeting the man who helped fund and train the IRA in their attacks killing Brits. Lybia isn't considered bad just for Lockerbie you know, or didn't you?

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Actually it's more complicated than that. As a member of the government Jack Straw has to meet people for his job. Some people in the world are not nice, but they govern countries and it's sometimes in our interest to engage with these nations. It was never the case they shared ideologies and decided to meet, they would not meet outside of government.

The BNP choose to share platforms with these people without such cause.

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Get them on there and fast as because lets be honest we all know they are hot air and not much else so lets get them in the public eye lets see them and ghear them and let the people know who exactly they will be voting for. They are a legal party and as such have as much right to be on the show as anyone else from any other political party. Half the reason the bnp do as well as they do is because the public hardly gets to see them or hear them and see them for what they are.

Yes i know there are routine stories in the media but the fact is more and more people in the UK simply don't trust what they hear or see on the media we have no trust in any of them anymore. I don't know the guys name but if we can nominate the member of the bnp that goes on i nominate the complete utter brain dead chimp that attempted to get votes in south leicestershire recently because anyone thinking of voting for the bnp would be put off in a fast second after hearing him.

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Just heard on QuestionTime that Nick Griffin will be on in 2 weeks time. Should be interesting.

There was a mixed reaction in the studio although the noes were probably greater in number.

Should be interesting. I don't think they mentioned who else would be on.

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I agree.

When he announced it at the end of last nights show, the audiences reaction spoke volumes.

I am sure it will be the most watched Question Time ever.

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He won't be awful. He will appear responsible and simply anti-PC. He will attempt to frame the debate in his own context. Instead of wanting an all-White Britain, their party policy, he will state 'I just want to stop immigration, is that racist'? Cue applause and morons using it as evidence the BNP are victims of PC madness.

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I am sure he will be getting some extra media training and i am also sure if any other panelist has half a brain they can provoke some truth from him. Jack Straw will be on that show so lets hope there are others who can push him a bit. Loved Ian hislop on last nights though :).

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The whole panel can be BNP members and we can let the audience expose the BNP for what they are. It's not rocket science.

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I don't understand this blind spot you have about the BNP getting exposure Damien.The more they have the better in my opinion and Dimbleby is too astute to allow that scenario to happen.He's not above intervening and asking searching questions of his own when it is merited.

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Dimbleby said that Jack Straw will be on as well.

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Isn't he on next week or do i need to get some sleep?

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No, I definitely heard him say that Justice Secretary Jack Straw would be on with the little toad. If you watched last night's sow, did you see the guy in the audience that looked and talked just like Griffin, it was uncanny.

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yep iplayer confirms you are correct. Watched most of the show and don't think i remember him, must have missed that part.

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Check him out at 25:10-25:25.

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LOL, could that be nicks younger brother.

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There is one thing that will give griffin away and thats the first time anyone not white has something to say watch his previous tv moments the same look comes on his face whenever someone not of the right race says something.

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Jack Straw would be terrible against the BNP. Its a shame Ian Hislop wasn't saved until the BNP episode. He'd tear them to shreds.

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I couldn't believe it when I saw him. I thought Griffin had infiltrated the audience, or sent his nephew (but then, perhaps he did :D ).

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Hain's another idiot who thinks that banning things and parties is the only answer..

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From that link:

The party has not agreed to change anything. Griffin has reportedly said that he will propose the amendment change at the party's EGM. He has not yet, as far as I am aware, signed the undertaking, issued by the High Court last week, that compels him to make those proposals.

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He's a typical leftie twit who thinks 'no platform' motions actually achieve anything. I spent long hours arguing with his type back in my Uni days when the anti-nazis proposed (and successfully got, unfortunately) a student union motion denying the platform to fascists. Not that there were any fascists, or anybody that might have been accused of being a fascist, trying to make use of the platform, mind you.

Even if the BNP is an illegal body, what basis is there for a legal challenge against the BBC? Hain's letter is just full of overblown bluster and posturing, which let's face it is all you have to stand on when there's no substance behind your arguments. And that's exactly why the BNP should be on Question Time. I'm really looking forward to watching Nick Griffin make a complete arse of himself.

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While I don't mind/care the BNP being allowed onto Question Time, I don't see the problem in denying a platform to fascists? This is not a violation of free speech, it's about not giving them a megaphone from which to promote their agenda.

I also think the people who subscribe to these views do so due to anger, ignorance, racism or a combination of the three. I don't think they can be reasoned with or the ideology defeated with debate and fact.

He won't though. He's too smart. He will ensure he comes across well and will spout populist nonsense.

More importantly he will frame the context of the debate before he answers any question. He won't answer "Are mixed marriages a good/bad/indifferent thing?" he will pretend the question is "Should we preserve British culture?". He won't answer "Did the Black British Solider injured in Iraq deserve the Victoria Cross?" he will pretend the question is "Should Black Solders be given the VC because they are black?". He frames the question so that he gives a responsible, non-racist, answer and pretends that the answers to those questions are what have caused the BNP to be called Racist. Strawmen ahoy.

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So the justice minister agrees to go on with them and now hain says it's illegal so who is the idiot jack straw or peter hain even odds if you ask me.

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Neither is an idiot. It's called a difference of opinion. It 'might' be illegal, it might not, I'm sure the BBC lawyers are running it through before the episode is recorded. Peter Hain is following his convictions and giving the BBC a reason not to allow him on the programme. That doesn't make him an idiot, just a politician ~.

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It's not upto the BBC to say who can, or who cannot, use this platform. They are a public service broadcaster. The BNP are a legal party.

They could have just continued not to invite them, but now they have they must see it through

Same can be, and is, said about Islamic Extremists and the fighting in Afghanistan. But this much I am certain of, there will be no victory in Afghanistan and eventually we will have to talk to the Taliban.

In the end the only way to resolve differences is with reasoned debate and fact



Well Mr Dimbleby should be ready to ensure the questions are answered as put to the panel, that is what he is there for after all.

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No they are not, that has already been determined.

Not now that it has been ruled that the British Nazi Party are an illegal organisation. They have a legitimate and valid reason to uninvite them.


But Fuhrer Griffin does not use reason and fact. He uses confusion, conjecture and lies.


It doesn't matter what Dimbleby will say, Griffin will continue to spout his lies and the racist ignorants will lap it up.

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He has a lot to lose, should they ever get in he'd be one of the first on the boat, it almost makes them worth voting for actually....

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Who says the BBC wants to uninvite them? Hain certainly doesn't seem to think the BBC is looking for a way out; the content and tone of his letter suggests he thinks the BBC needs to be bullied into uninviting the BNP.

Not so different to many other politicians then. As others have already said, Dimbleby is there to ensure the questions are answered, or at least to draw attention to the fact that they have not been answered.

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The BBC does not have the luxury of deciding who to hand the megaphone to. It has to show political impartiality. The BNP is a political party, with significant popular support. All this argument over the legality of its constitution is a diversion by those who still don't grasp the substantive issue: the people who voted, and will continue to vote, for the BNP, are not interested in legal technicalities, they are interested in someone who says the things they want to hear. That's what Griffin does, and that's why he now has a seat as an MEP.

Hain's legalistic grandstanding is simply another attempt to convince everyone to ignore the BNP, because if we do they'll go away. Well the mainstream parties have tried that, and guess what? It didn't work. It's time to get the spotlight on them.

These are mere assertions Damien, and very shaky ones at that. On what basis do you make BNP voters into an entire class of person who can't be reasoned with, even if it was anger or frustration that caused them to vote that way in the first place?

I'm familiar with the way politicians steer debates and tough questions onto ground they are happier to defend. So is Dimbleby. So are all the other panellists. So are many of the people who seek to get into the audience for programmes like this.

This is not a five-minute interview on Today or Newsnight where a tough and canny subject can survive being repeatedly asked the same question if they're stubborn or brass-necked enough. This is an hour-long programme, broadcast virtually as-live. Nobody is going to let him get away with anything.

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[QUOTE=Flyboy;34893534]No they are not, that has already been determined.


when did the BNP get declared an illegal party ?

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Where have you been living for the past week?

Their constituion was declared to be illegal and such as they they don't have a legal constitution they cannot be considered to be a legal political party.

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And the relevance of this is ... ?

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Have you not read the thread?

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Yep.

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Have you?

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You appear to be putting an interpretation on the decision that not even the Court or the QC for the Equalities Commission have.

Link

Nothing (as far as I can see) states that the BNP are now an illegal party - any evidence to the contrary would be gratefully received.

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NO it hasn't been declared illegal ..yet ,legal proceedings have been suspended untill after 14-15 nov when the matter is to be discussed

The whole issue is moot anyway as the upcoming equality bill will make their constitution illegal anyway and the BNP accept this

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But he doesn't appear to have signed such an undertaking yet.

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