Digital Britain. Is the Levy dead?
 

Will the General Election mean the death of the proposed 'Broadband Tax'
http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology...britain-labour


If I have chosen the wrong forum for this thread could a passing Mod do the honours and move it please. Cheers.

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Announcing something to grab headlines then quietly shelving it when they realize it will never work? Doesn't sound like our government at all...

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Apparently they are still going ahead, but not until election year is over..

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/08...stephen_timms/

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However if the Conservatives gain power in the election.....

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True, I should have added "Assuming they win the election" to the end of my statement.

Of course, Unless the Tories really cock it up (and I've read a few things in the papers this week that suggest that there is a good chance the Tories could cock it up), they won't win the election.

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Update on this.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/8270772.stm

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Would I pay the fifty pence tax - I just get broadband no phone line

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Not everyone is in the same position, I for one have a phone line because I can get only ADSL in my area.

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TBH, I am not sure I like the idea of this tax.

I can understand the need to pay taxes for things that are needed (School, local maintenance, housing, emergency services etc), but I do not class Broadband internet access as a need.

Sure, it is handy (especially as the government is busy placing everything it can online so that it can reduce it's own staffing levels), but is it necessary? No. Not IMO.

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I think it's iniquitous.50p now but you can be absolutely certain it will rise and rise just like the car tax has.:mad:

I wonder what will happen if everyone gave up their landlines.Will they start on mobile phones next?

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Question is which companies will recieve subsidy from this tax. As I believe is will be everybody in the uk with a phone line paying for this, so is this network going to be free or are we just going to be paying for infrastucture.

Many cable companies went to the wall in repaying debt for building infrastucture to pave the way for a digital future. I wonder if Mr Branson might be giving Brown a call as I'm sure the investors in Virgin Media would like a cut of this money.

I not surpised though if the public pay for this network and are then charged a fortune for using the so called latest technology. When all this technology has been around for quite some time.

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Why should my mum be taxed 50p a month for a service roll out that she will never use. PONSY LABOUR GOV SUCKING THE LIFE OUT OF PEOPLE AGAIN!!!! :mad:

50p might not be much but just another £175million per year stealth tax.

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I have happily provided my thoughts on this issue to the BBC.

Along with some regret that they shrunk the size of the 50p piece. If I have to pay this I want to be able to ram the thing into a certain politician where the sun doesn't shine. I am sure that people would be queuing up to pay their 50p if they had this option.

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There will be bidders for the money and projects will be looked at impartially apparently.

Chances are of course BT will hoover most of it up due to their economies of scale and tax breaks, and whoever else is good at getting the panel drunk and laid will collect the rest.

We will receive nothing for this money as tax payers. The networks will be run as existing networks are, with the exception that they have to be open access networks. The existing VM network is closed access so that would have to change if Virgin built any of it.

BT are already sniffing after this cash though. They have made overtones that if the money is just sent straight to then they will increase their FTTN build out to include 90% of the UK population.

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This tax is not to get people online, that will be done with existing funds.

This tax is to supply 'next generation' services to 90% of the UK.

Virgin Media and BT are expected to do a market-driven rollout to 55 - 60% of the UK population, this money is to supply >24Mbit services to another 30 - 35%.

So yes, everyone here who uses Virgin Media and has a phone line will be paying 50p / month to give HD goat porn to Farmer Piles. ;)

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I wouldn't object to a 50p tax, IF it provided future high speed broadband access possibilities and IF it did not get higher and higher like other taxes. If it was a fixed tax, and gives a better broadband future for everyone, I'd happily pay it. Otherwise, as above, I'd shove it up a certain politicians backside.

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It means absolutely nothing for you and I, as per my post above.

If you have cable it gives you nothing.

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That's what I mean, IF it did give something, I'd be happy to, but as it doesn't, it can go up a politicians backside for all I care. ADSL here is very poor, we're talking sub 3Mbps speeds even on ADSL2+. We're lucky to have cable.

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Think yourself lucky mate.... I`m paying £17.00 a month for this.
At best i get 7 meg which i`m happy with.
https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...2009/09/14.png
Speeds go up and down like a whores drawers with sky.!!! Totally peed off with them again.:(:rolleyes:

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I think it's a rip off, BT have made millions of profits over the years but now plead that they cannot afford to upgrade to compete with cable companies (didn't they fund themselves as far as going to Chapter 11 protection, no tax payer money there).

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We don't have Chapter 11 in this country, and BT is a British company. ;)

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Cease and desist forthwith.

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Yes I know:o:

My point was no taxpayer help for them, but get the impression that BT are after help............

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Now scrapped

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/8606639.stm

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Good.

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You would think there was an election coming up, or something.......

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I thought that this was was an interesting, if somewhat cynical, comment.
ASIDE. A worrying sign that I am getting older. Having read Kymmy's link, I read this thread from the beginning as I didn't think I had noticed it before to-day only to realise I was the one who started it. https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...2011/03/31.gif

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Don't worry I keep doing that myself..and I've been here longer and my post count makes it an inevitable side effect everytime a certain someone resurrects old threads.

The "did I really say that" feeling overcomes me regularly.;)

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Nice and reassuring to know I'm not the only one Maggy. I shall postpone the Blue Rinse for another year. :D

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Bless.......

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Don't care about the tax. Not a big deal for me and if it meant real investment in high speed broadband then go ahead. I am far more concerned about the digital economy bill in general.

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It's not the tax, it's the "yes we will, oops it's an election so we won't, but we will after the election if we win" tactic.