A politician speaks the truth!!
 

That is until he realizes he is being filmed, then of course its an honour to serve the British people.:rolleyes:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/8196949.stm

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Yeah £65k a year is rations.

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yeah i saw this on the news earlier ,had to laugh , this blokes a millionaire for god's sake he wouldn't know what "rations" were if they fell on his head
i'm self-employed ,a window fitter for the local authorities ,all our rates have just been dropped without any notice so now i have to fit 2 extra windows per day to make the same money
here's an idea ,lets make the mp's work longer hours for less pay and see how they like it ,,but we'll have to wait untill they come back off the summer break

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You can bet your last pound that Mr Duncan's first words were his true feelings, not the standard spiel he gushed when he realized he was being recorded.
The same goes for an awful lot of MP's who regarded the old expenses system as a part of their wages entitlement, if they don't think they can manage on £65pa plus expenses then go work full time in the city. Rather that than the part time some MP's work so as to supplement their "meager" salaries:sarcastic:
According to Duncan "nobody in the outside world will want to come into this place because of the poor conditions", well that might be the case in terms of merchant bankers, city workers and the like but so what!! hopefully it'll encourage more people from the real world to become MP's, teachers, doctors and everyday working folk, people who honestly want to make a difference for society, not those who want to feather their own nests first.

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Well he's got form for making outrageous statements in the past.

http://www.thefirstpost.co.uk/47185,...ia-murder-quip

Another 'joke' that was taken the wrong way.

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I saw that on Have I Got News For You. It really was a (poorly advised) joke. He is gay, she made a statement which was perceived as negative regarding gay marriage. He made a joke which was intended to show his annoyance and an attempt to be funny on a program where he is meant to be funny.

It's poor taste because of his position as an MP, but it's not really bad. We all make jokes which could be considered wrong if taking literally.

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:bsmack::mad::mad::mad:

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Duncan's a damn good reason not to vote tory!

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They are all as bad as each other are they not?

:confused:

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Politicians often speak the truth, it's just that they normally do it out of the electorate's earshot....

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Some comments given in a relaxed enviroment by someone who thought they were off the record i am not going to slam him for it even though i dislike the guy for other reasons because i can remember many times where if i had been filmed i would have been in far more trouble. What he says to a point like it or not is true we need to have professional people in the house of commons and if we in the name of public trust make it so hostile to be an mp we will end up with badly experienced people and unqualified people making far far worse decisions. Want proof of that look at our current government and the amount of people in jobs that they are clearly not cut out for defence minister is one that jumps right out for a start.

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Let's not get too excited about this. I imagine most of us have exaggerated for effect when bantering with someone or trying to make them laugh or otherwise make a point.

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Indeed they are, perhaps I should rephrase. How about:

Duncan's just one of many damn good reasons not to vote tory!

:D

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And there are so many damn good reasons to vote Labour.

(if only I could think of them......)

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If the guy is a millionaire as reported by the media then I guess 64k does seem like small change.

I bet that most of us would like the chance to struggle with such a pittance..

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So, we have an MP apparently struggling to get by on 65K a year, yet we have people in the lower echelons of the civil service who are continually under the threat of outsourcing, in some case receive regular death threats (and no extra protection) and are expected to live on a fraction of that. I am not saying that all Civil Service employees are good, concientious workers. Far from it. There are some excellent ones, but a lot of bad ones.

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I being honest am not fully aware of exactly what an mp's week usually consists of but i doubt it is just about westminster and probably doesn't always involve sociable hours so maybe 65k isn't a lot for what they do. I suspect here we have one mp saying what a great many others from all the party's are saying when no one is around to report it.

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So true , its a shame there is no choice anymore , if ever there was

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People who think that way have got government they deserve. There are around twenty different national parties in the UK. There is a wide choice.

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Ah yes, the choices are endless..

Let's see now. We have the right-leaning New Labour party, the left-leaning New Conservatives and hardly a whisker between them in policy. We have the New Hopeful party AKA LibDems with no experience of running anything more complex than a village Fete. And then a variety of flavours of typically British nutters bringing up the rear.

Hmmm, decisions decisions..

If I looked at them in the same way I judge an eBay seller I'd never give a penny to any one of the sad bunch let alone control of my future.

At the end of the day I'm looking at who is going to take the least of my money to throw at unworthy causes.

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There's nothing "nutty" about serveral of the smaller parties. Just policies you either support or you don't. It looks likely that apathy will win and one of the mainstream parties will get elected. We then all carry on as before. Freakin fantastic. :rolleyes:

The British people have such power if only they'd realise it.

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I'd seriously be interested to hear of any non-mainstream party that can offer a broad range of workable ideas.

So many of them seem to be one trick ponies.

Leave the EU. Nice idea but is it really workable. And where do they stand on all the other stuff that matters?

Trouble is, in real life nobody wants to employ someone without experience. It's just too much of a gamble. Why should running my world be any different?

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just to play devils advocate ,who else thinks that top ministers and the pm's wage (i believe the pm's wage is about 170,000 p/a)isn't actualy alot when compared to footballers,top bankers and and managing directors of some companies ,after all running a country (however badly)is quite a big gig and carries much more responsibility than some jobs with twice the wage

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I agree, the power to say "NO, I won't vote for any of you ****!" The power to stay away from the voting booth.

But that will never happen now, will it?

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Why not find out for yourself? Correct me if I am wrong, but perhaps you have only read the pro-mainstream propaganda? Check what the parties themselves say. I also think it is perhaps unreasonable to expect all the small parties to have a full and detailed manifesto as they don't have the resources that the mainstream parties have. That kind of detail will come as they gain support.

If everyone took your attitude nothing will change and we will truly have the government we deserve. And it's 'experienced' politicians who have mucked the country up.

:rolleyes:

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Voter turnout has been down in recent years. So it is happening. I don't really think it's an option for me. The mainstream gets in too easily that way.

A spoilt ballot paper is a better option than simply staying away. At least that way, a voter is not counted amongst the apathetic.

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You think they should be paid more?

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You think they should be paid more?[/QUOTE]
that's not what i mean
i mean is it a realistic wage compaired to the private sector jobs with less responsibility and a much higher wage
i personally think if you make it easier to get rid of dodgy politicians then we would feel comfortable paying them more ,then if they don't give us the performance expected of them we can boot them out

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On reflection Freezin you make some good points.

When all is said and done could a different and inexperienced party have us in a bigger mess than the 'big boys' have dropped us into right now?

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That's just because footballer's, top bankers and managing directors of some companies not to mention some pop stars, movie stars, TV Presenters and even lowly newsreaders are all obscenely overpaid.

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one word gobs...e.

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MP's should be paid enough to keep them honest and not prone to bribery or blackmail.

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Those types of MP's are precisely the types we don't want.

Is there nobody left who is proud to serve their Country for the Honour of doing so to say nothing of the current remuneration that makes most people go green with envy.

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that's not what i mean
i mean is it a realistic wage compaired to the private sector jobs with less responsibility and a much higher wage
i personally think if you make it easier to get rid of dodgy politicians then we would feel comfortable paying them more ,then if they don't give us the performance expected of them we can boot them out[/QUOTE]

I think paying them more would mean even more career politicians.

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Duncans a damn good reason to not vote at all!

Living on rations? treated like s*** ?

This guy should have had a talk with my dad and his sister who were placed into orphanages because their parents split up and their mother could not cope, that was in the 1920's.

After the expense mullarky we had this " everything will change " crap, nothing has changed.

Some will say " well it was a private conversation " sorry, it still doesnt change the fact that nothing will change, one rule for them and one for the rest of us.

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I think some of the smaller parties would at least be working in the interests of the people of this country, and I don't think they'd be arrogant or stupid enough to refuse to listen to the advice and opinions of other interested parties, banks, businesses, unions, civil rights groups, charities, etc. And they'd still have an opposition party, likely to be composed of what remained of the mainstream, to hold them to account.

I'm just not willing to settle for the policies on offer from the mainstream, and will vote accordingly. I don't think it's a big gamble.