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the new season is all set to start with the Championship League One/two and non league this weekend than the Premier League starting a week later on the 15th

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don't forget the Charity Shield is this weekend too.

Anyone know a good site that reviews all the signings and leavers from the Prem teams ?

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I use: http://www.skysports.com/football/transfer_centre

and: http://www.skysports.com/football/tr...,11660,00.html

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thanks the second link was just what I was after

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Liverpool face the start of the season with both centre backs Agger & Skrtel on the injured list.Aurelio also looks like missing the start of the season.Rumours that Dossena is on his way back to Italy and Lucas Leiva going back to Brazil continue.Albert Riera looks like being out for a while after being carried off with what looks like being a Achilles injury in tonights friendly in Norway.

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There's the potential now for an extremely interesting Celtic V Arsenal 4th round qualifier for the Champions League. I know the Gunners would be favourite but I reckon Celtic would run them close. One thing is for sure, with the footballing philosophy of Wenger and Mowbray in mind, there would be some nice football on show. Bring it on :D:D

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I'd enjoy that Celtic are my 2ed team and I am a great admirer of Wenger and his style of football.A very shrewd manager who's ability to turn good players in to World class players.It would be a very interesting game.Mowbray's Westbrom played some very entaining football last season too.

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Arsenel To Win it There are my Secord Taem as a Southampton guy Saints are my First team :D

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Tic through and through but from the football watching aspect I do find the gooners very pleasing on the eye. {... and it's easier on the pocket to travel to the away game:D}

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I heard that during the Charity Shield on sunday SAF will pull Owen off at half time.

Lucky old Michael! Most players only manage a bottle of Lucozade.

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Celtic have been drawn against the Gooners. First game in Glasgow. Wooohoooo Bring it on.:D

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would love it if they could knock Arsenal out.

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Me too. Chewing my fingernails already.

I suspect it's not the draw either mangager would have wanted but from the football fan's point of view it's mouth watering.

My nerves will be frazzled before we're into August. It's going to be a long season. :)

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Bring it on! :D Hope your not a Celtic fan Harmitage :( About to have a disappointing start to the season :D

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They're used to it. And a disappointing middle and end as well :D

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I am indeed a Celtic fan. It isn't going to be the walkover many will be predicting. Only 3 English teams in the Champions league this season. :D

Derek S; the few disappointments Celtic Fans experience are more than compensated for by the long list of glorious victories we achieve. :D

I thought of copying their honours list onto this post but it's so large it might bring down the forum. :D:D

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No No No, Chelski do count as a English team. ;)

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I reckon Celtic have a great chance, they'll get a good result at home, they always do in Europe and i can see them hanging on at the Emirates. At least for Arsenal they will actually have a decent chance of winning something this year if they're in the Europa League.

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Celtic are probably the team we would have least liked to face but Arsenal should be able to beat them. As for 'decent' chance people are underrating Arsenal because of a poor season, the season before we were challenging for the title until it fell away a bit.

Our team is stronger in some areas (More quality midfielders) and weaker in some (defence) but with a couple of Wenger-esque purchases we stand a good chance in the Champions League (We did get to Semis last year) and League.

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I think it'll be tough for us at Celtic with the atmosphere.

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The smell in the East End isn't that bad... Oh right you mean the singing and that :D

Draw at Celtic Park, Arsenal winning by a clear 2 goals in London. Remember Rangers had their bottoms handed to them on a plate by the Arsenal reserves last week.

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I have nothing but resentment against Celtic, now after the appaling behaviour towards us English fans at Wembley Cup, this was a friendly match, with four teams, the singing towards us and Hutton, was bad, no wonder there is so much aggro in Glasgow between rivals Celts and Rangers, and l am married to a Scot.

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You must have a lot of resentment against a lot of people Arthur.

Sun exclusive shoccer " Football fans direct songs at rival fans" -
"The Celtic fans seemed to target me" says Alan Hutton, ex Glasgow Rangers, " I don't understand why"

Couldn't be a touch of sour grapes there Arthur, what with our reserves doing your lot over. :D:D:D

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I didn't see these games,so I can't comment on that.But I couldn't say a bad word about Celtic after 'Hillsborough' they offered us a hand of friendship I can never forget.And If you had/heard or seen both set of supporters hand in hand singing 'You'll Never Walk Alone' I don't think anyone would have had a dry eye.Celtic supporters still continue to come to 'Anfield' on April 15th every year at their own expense and that's after 20 years.
Y.N.W.A.

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I have been to many games involving Celtic, l have been to the derbys ie Rangers, and also the game where they played Arsenal many years ago, and yes l did have respect for them, and PLEASE don't get me wrong, Celtic are a good club, but the slanging they gave us last week, doesn't make sense, even a mate of mine who is a Celtic fan, couldn't understand why they were singing anti English songs, the fans of today have changed over the years, so why do it.

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I wasn't saying you didn't have respect
The same can be said for any club
I myself feel sick if LFC fans sing about 'Munich'
I have respect for Man Utd and every club
I agree with you about changes in attitude of fans.Also players in some cases
In my oppoinion the worse thing to happen was the forming of the Premiership.
There is too much greed nowadays and contrats mean nothing.
I started watching Liverpool in 1958 as a five year old when players like Billy Liddell were on buttons compared to players nowadays.
Sorry if I sounded like I was having a go at you I wasn't
No matter which club you support ,good luck in 2009/2010 :)

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I'm hoping you don't ever get to see your team play Swansea or Cardiff, THEN you'll see some anti-english feeling.

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Just a pity some of their fans don't feel the same about people killed in the Ibrox disaster :rolleyes:

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only 307 days untill the fifa World cup in South Africa :D

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Good luck to the Swans against Leicester, unknown manager, star players gone.... :spin:

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You can't judge a football club by a small minority of mindless thugs, intent on attaching themselves to a football club because of their outdated, bigotted political views. Both of the big Glasgow Clubs have these eejits but are making some inroads into dealing with it.

Glasgow isn't that big a city, most people have friends and/or family who support the opposite old firm team than they do. It therefore affected most of the city at that time.

Most of the mindless thugs who show disrespect to the disaster weren't even born at the time. I was and can remember how dignified both football teams were at that time. There is always an official representation from Celtic Football Club at any memorial/dedication to those lost in the Ibrox disaster.

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Well,like I say,I can't comment on anything I know nothing about.By the way I'm Prosetant/C of E.
You'll always get a minority that are bigoted in some way or another.Even a small number Evertonians taunt us about Hillsborough.And the first time we played them after Bill Shankly died there was a small minority singing Shankly's dead this went on for a few years.Also when Emlyn Hughes died some taunted us.Liverpool fans are not innocent either I can't defend their taunts about Munich etc.
Let's hope one day soon there will be no bigotry etc in football or religion and people of all faiths,creeds,and whoever they support in any sport can mix together in peace and harmony.

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And it gets worse for Liverpool Carragher limps off with Achilles injury after 12 mins in the friendly with Atletico Madrid.
We will have to sign someone now with Skrtel and Agger missing the start of the season. :(:(

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Only half time and it's Norwich 0-5 Colchester :D

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Not to mention they're 2-0 down to a team about a 3 or 4 weeks behind them in pre season :)

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Torres injured :(

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Why is players getting injured funny :confused:

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And Swansea show everyone the perfect way to throw away a good lead. League 1 here we come :bsmack:

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From the BBC.....

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Where did i say that?



Norwich 1-7 Colchester - Not the best of starts to the season there...

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Wow that Newcastle away kit is as horrid as the pictures, look even more intense in HD.

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Hi RussB, l know all about Cardiff fans, to me, no disrespect to you, but we played them in the cup, and they were evil,.(the fans that is)

We played them at The Lane, last year (i think) and it is the FIRST time l have seen the heavy mob of bill preventing us getting into the ground, Cardiff fans arrived with heavy police escort, trying to smash the windows of the coaches, trying to get involved in aggro with us, OK some Spurs hard nuts were willing to take them on, but were held back by police, BUT this was all started by Cardiff fans, and the game hadn't started yet, we were outside the ground. I cannot understand why they were doing it, please explain.:)

I was with my son, and l was scared for him, l have been going to The Lane for the past 35 years, and that is a first for me.:)

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It didn't take Ballack long to start cheating did it, only on the pitch for a few minutes.

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Donkey's awful penalty in the FA Cup semi last season has been erased by Evra's awful attempt today. And Foster, a future England keeper? Not a chance. Truely horrendous mistakes today.

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I can never understand why they introduced penalties in a Charity game, they should have shared it, like before, its ok if the game was an important cup tie or something, but it is just purely a charity game.

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I saw the friendly game at Tottenham today, and being a yid for 30 years, l think our luck for this year is going to change, BUT first half (same old Tottenham) second half Modric, Lennon and Pav absolutley brilliant, beware the big boys.

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Tottenham fans say it at the start of every season.

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Yup, Every season. It's becoming very funny :D We'll see, I am never sure why Spurs consistently under-perform. My best theory is impatience, they should never have fired Jol! It seems it was annoyance at not achieving a top 4 finish that undermined him. However since then they failed to match the levels he brought them too.

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Nani is out for a few weeks but to be honest I don't think that is much of a loss. Ok he scored but then after watching him for a couple of years we know he will also whack the ball from distance 20 more times with no end product. He didn't do much else in the match and don't think we fielded a great side either.

Foster had a touch of the VDS about him, lets hope this match was a blip and we can start the league better.

Rooney looked good up front and hope we can play him there all season

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Just watched Norway beat Scotland the ref had a shocker
Next up England - Can't understand the stupid decision by the English FA to play a friendly 3-4 days before the start of the season.Lets hope no body from any clubs get injured.

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when will football fans realise that football is played all over the world and their is a league in virtually every single country in the world.

Due to the different weather conditions not all the leagues have games at the same time, Norway in Europe play during the summer. as do a lot of other leagues too.

As such there is a difference between the levels of performance , and match fitness of different teams throughout the world and no ideal time for everyone to play.

As such FIFA have the international calendar which has dates throughout the year, some of which may be bad for England and other dates which are great for England but are at times when it is the start of other leagues or when players are on holiday as the league is shut down.


We could just let nations themselves decide when to play matches like the Africa Nations Cup which is outside this window and we all know the havok that cause with players leaving for weeks during the league. So that clearly doesn't work which is why the FIFA International windows work very well

For all those who says this is a stupid time for a game come up with a better solution ?

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Well as England's game was only a friendly it was quite pointless to play just 3 days before the season started.AS the commentator and co commentator said.
Scotland was a World Cup Qulifier so I agree that had to be played no problems there.

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1 day to go!

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2 Days to go for my team

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We started last week...

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http://img.skysports.com/09/08/402x2...00_2347289.jpg

Where are we? (Arsenal) Yet again everyone is putting us down before the season even starts, bring it on \o/

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That is a bit of a stupid picture, all City have done so far is spend money...

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First managerial casualty of the season after just 2 games :(

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/foot...ch/8202278.stm

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Blahhhh Chelsea steal a win in added time, nothing new there.

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Wasn't exactly a steal, they had 10 good chances and Hull rode their luck.

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Adeabayor scored for Man City after 3 minutes:mad:

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They still won't get into the top 4, Blackburn are hardly the best test of Man City's throw money at it strategy.

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Seems like Ade has put more effort in to this game than he did for the whole of last season for us.

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We`ll see, trouble is your never going to `break` into that elusive top four unless you do throw money at the squad. Your obviously an Arsenal fan and a bit worried that if Fabregas goes as well it could be you guys who miss out.
All the top teams have at one time or another splashed the cash to create a basis for going forward, you won`t win anything with kids.....:D /sarcasm

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I'm worried even WITH Fabregas! Wenger needs to add to the squad.

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Arsenal got and stayed in the top 4 without excessive spending. Liverpool did pretty much the same, most of their spending happened whilst in the top 4 and United got to where they are now without spending rubbish loads.

It's wrong that all the top teams have done this and only Chelsea have come near the stupid spending Man City have and they at least had quite a few players they brought up (aka Terry).

It would be sad for the Premiership to basically be a league table of the rich. Thankfully that is not the case as Chelsea's lack of consistent success shows. Man City better hope they achieve their owner's goals before he gets bored and leaves. Leaving the club with a unsustainable wage bill.

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How much did Stephen Ireland cost?

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Good to see us on ESPN's first HD broadcast.

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Like he won't be replaced with A Eto-esque player eventually. The only reason Man City isn't a World XI is because there wasn't enough time to replace all the players and some players were difficult to obtain.

It's the reason I don't think City will be in the top 4. Their defence is not up there yet. Fair enough they may get Lescott and their chances will improve.

Man City reminds me of Football Manager when you'ld get bored and construct the best team possible. Anyway, the point is the big clubs have a lot of their talent coming though their youth system. Especially United. So it's not down to big bucks.

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Yeah, He needs another defender. Hopefully Gibbs will be ready for some games this season without falling over :D

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Man City are top of the table. Granted it's by virtue of the fact their name is above Wigan, West Ham and Stoke. :D

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lol the way Arshavin just said "Toure, he is history for us" was classic! Must be the Russian accent.

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Russians have the best voices for Villains, we've been far too well conditioned :D

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To be honest I don't even see Arsenal as 'top 4'. Their blip as a successful side ended several years ago, they came from being also-rans and will (if they have not done so already) return there soon enough.

Yes there's a spare 'top 4' space going but I don't think it will go to Arsenal or Man City.

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Excellent 5 - 0 up against Everton away so far. If it remains the same that is not a shabby a start to the season. A great way to start the difficult run in.

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Man U were breaking transfer records every year before Chelsea came along and Liverpool were none to shabby when it came to splashing millions either, I don't have a problem with them or City, well I do but not with their spending, they can only play 11 players at the end of the day and the more teams we have competing the better our league at the end of the day.

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United and Liverpool got into those positions without excessive spending was my point. I don't think United splashed the cash much until later on in their dominance. How much did the treble winning side cost? (Of course adjusting for the difference in overall spending between then and now)

There are warnings in other clubs, Newcastle and especially Leeds, of how financial overreaching can cause problems. City are fine since their exuberance is being backrolled by a ambitious chairman but the fans should be wary of the stability of the club in the event his cash flow stops.

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Wooo 6 - 1! Shame about the late concession but 6 - 1, away, to Everton. That's a nice start to the season by anyone's standards. Just improve the defence Wenger.

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Never underestimate the Gunners! Everything was perfect today.

Get in!

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Yup. Bring on the Portsmouth! I'll be at that game woop.

Important not to get carried away though. One game is one game and Arsenal are prone to amazing performances. The trick is the consistency to keep it up. If we can do that then a top 4 spot will be no trouble. We know the team is capable, it's just can they avoid the runs of poor performances that cost us the lead a couple of seasons ago and stopped us even being a danger last year. This wasn't a small team at home though, this was Everton away. So could not have hoped for a better start.

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You are joking, Robson, Pallister, Keane all broke British transfer records before winning anything, Liverpool wasted millions under Souness achieving nothing and the treble winning side probably cost more to assemble than most at the time what with Stam, Yorke, Berg and Cole being in it.

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Ok Fair enough. I still think it is possible to be a success without excessive spending and I also think it's an unsustainable way to run a club.

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To make matters worse = again, Chelsea are preparing a bid for a foriegn player in the region of £42 MILLION, when will someone from the authories step in and stop stupid bids of this figure, it is killing the game of football, amd Chelsea are as much blame than any other club.

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Congratulations to all the winning teams today :)

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I don`t agree with you there 1 iota, there is no chance City would have become a World XI so soon due to the fact that they haven`t won a sausage since before i was born. With the vast sums of money the elite footballers earn they wan`t to sign for a club which at least has shown the potential to win trophy`s, City haven`t done that yet.
Maybe in a couple of years, if (and that`s a big IF) we are up there challenging for honours a better stamp of player is more likely to sign.

Like Arsharvin, quality player btw, he made the choice to sign for Arsenal because he thought he could win something there (european cup maybe). Allthough he could be an exception to the norm (i.e. money mad) as he does seem very `sporting`:)

Nice result for you today as well, Goodison is no easy place to go to...

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Any idea who? I`m sure i read the other day that Pato was definately staying at A.C. Milan, though that probably means he`s on his way out..:walk:

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6-1 to Arsenal away at Everton. I've not seen a scoreline like that for the Gunners in a long time. To be fair, they needed some success after the average season they had last year.

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You're not still banging on about how you think United bought success? Don't we prove you wrong around this time every year?

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Cheers bud :tu: Seems a bit steep, allthough what do you get for £40 Million these days.........!!!!
Crazy, crazy world of football :spin:

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No, unless your going to say United haven't spent hundreds of millions on players and broken the transfer record loads of times, fact is City are doing what Chelsea did in playing catch up and pretty soon your exclusive little champions league gang are going to be shaken up and I for one think the league can only benefit from it.

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United have spent money on successful players, they've also spent money on players who turned out to be duds. Not one collection of purchases (such as when Chelsea were bought or as Man City have done this summer) have directly led to success. What's your point?

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It's pretty much the same thing, the only one of the "big five" that has had success without crass spending are Arsenal and I hope they get rewarded with a title for it come the end of the season, imo that would be the biggest achievement of any league winner.

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Still can't believe Newcastle won 3-0 yesterday and Amoeba scored a hat-trick.

He always was a second class player so maybe this division will suit him :D

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Well quite a result from Spurs and an unconvincing game from Liverpool. Liverpool are going to have to do much better to challenge for the title..

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Was Torres playing today? oops: :)

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Agreed,Liverpool didn't start playing till the 2ed half which is what cost us (Liverpool ) the title last season.Keane could have had a hat trick.Liverpool again relied on Gerrard and Torres.Maybe we should have had a 2ed pen when Voronin went down but then again he could have stayed on his feet.Tottenham throughly deserved their win and worked hard throughout the game.Benayoun did well when he came on.Babel again disappointed.Liverpool need another striker and prob another central defender.
Congratulations to Spurs.

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I would put Spurs to finish 5th this season on the back of that performance, they will certainly finish above Everton and Villa. Although with Man City splashing the cash I think I would have to put them 6th.

My top 6 this season:

1. Chelsea
2. United
3. Liverpool
4. Arsenal
5. Man City
6. Spurs

Although I think positions 2 to 4 could easily change. I was going to put United 3rd but Liverpool's performance changed that. I also think Arsenal could finish second but wanna see more from them first.

Spurs could easily finish above City but given City have not finished their spending yet and are likely to break the bank in mid-season as well I put them 5th.

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Liverpool. LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D

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It was a brilliant result today for us Yido's, but on a point of law, If Gomez brought down Johnson of Liverpool for the penalty, surely, Gomez should have walked,. I am suprised - but still a great result.

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He didn't deny a clear goal scoring chance with the foul, it was simply a penalty but it would have been harsh to send him off.

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As a Liverpool Fan,I think it would have been very harsh on Gomez if he had been sent off.Tottenham played as a unit unlike Liverpool.agreed an excellent result for Spurs.Shows how much they have improved under Redknapp.Could be contenders for a Champions League spot if they continue their fantastic home form under Redknapp.
Good luck for the rest of the season to them.

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When will Senior Benitez come to the conclusion that zonal marking is absolute rubbish, the number of goals Liverpool concede due to poor play at set pieces is ridiculous. Surely the players would prefer to mark a man each then they know where there at.
Stop anyone from getting a run at the ball, John Terry stops attackers getting there head to the ball by pushing, shoving, holding, etc, surely someone like Carragher would be the main man for this, in this zonal system he is wasted imo.

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Yep the 2ed goal was a poor one to concede by the Liverpool defence.
Agreed Carragher could do a terry in the Liverpool defence.
Well done Tottenham for the win but Liverpool have defensive problems for Wednesday night.

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It appears from the news tonight, that Jermaine Defoe was nick again last night by the same force that nick him a few days ago.