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papa smurf 26-07-2009 11:12

Secret Labour tax
 
Shocking new details of a stealth tax of up to £600 for householders with views of any kind, patios, conservatories and even a nearby bus stop are revealed for the first time today.

so that's how Gordy plans to recoup the nations wealth .




http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...e-classes.html

Will21st 26-07-2009 12:07

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Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 34841277)
Shocking new details of a stealth tax of up to £600 for householders with views of any kind, patios, conservatories and even a nearby bus stop are revealed for the first time today.

so that's how Gordy plans to recoup the nations wealth .

Surely you meant 'rob' the nation's wealth!:rolleyes:

martyh 26-07-2009 12:10

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surely this would be political suicide

papa smurf 26-07-2009 12:14

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Originally Posted by Will21st (Post 34841324)
Surely you meant 'rob' the nation's wealth!:rolleyes:

i think he did that when he bailed out every failing financial institution you could shake a stick at .

danielf 26-07-2009 12:36

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Sounds like the usual load of porkies from the Daily Fail to me.

martyh 26-07-2009 13:06

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Originally Posted by danielf (Post 34841335)
Sounds like the usual load of porkies from the Daily Fail to me.

this idea has been around for a while i first heard of it about 3-4 months back ,but like i said it would be political suicide http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ukne...th-a-view.html

this is the telegraphs take on it from back in march

Sirius 26-07-2009 13:15

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Originally Posted by daniel (Post 34841335)
Sounds like the usual load of porkies from the Daily Fail to me.

Unfoutunatly i don't think it is, I seem to remember this being talked about a while back. As for another posters comment of political suicide i think labour have been doing that for the last year under Brown.

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Details about the logging of homes with a view and off-street parking came from answers to Tory parliamentary questions given by Jane Kennedy, John Healey and Phil Woolas, all ministers either at the Department for Communities and Local Government (DCLG), the Treasury or the Department for the Environment, Food and Rural Affairs.
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Documents obtained under the Freedom of Information Act show millions of homes have already been secretly assessed by Labour in preparation for council tax hikes expected to target the middle class after the Election.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...#ixzz0MMpAAQUG
Seems to be happening

Osem 26-07-2009 13:40

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Originally Posted by martyh (Post 34841325)
surely this would be political suicide

He's already committed suicide and Brown's been up to these tricks for years - it's just that when things were artificially 'booming' less people noticed or cared.

http://www.moneyweek.com/news-and-ch...ecomes-pm.aspx

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The annual weigh-in of the latest edition of “accountants’ bible”, Tolley’s Tax Handbook shows that the latest tax guide runs to 9,800 pages, more than twice its 4,555 page length when Labour came to power in 1997. Bob Rothenberg of accountancy firm Blick Rothenberg told The Telegraph: “So-called simplification of the tax rules has made them substantially more complicated. This has become a form of stealth tax because it is much more difficult for people to deal with their own tax affairs.”


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Originally Posted by danielf (Post 34841335)
Sounds like the usual load of porkies from the Daily Fail to me.

Could be but then again Brown and New Labour haven't exactly been models of honesty and integrity over the last decade have they and it seems like the Daily Telegraph was reporting this issue back in December:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/news...ce-houses.html

Stealth taxes have been Brown's speciality since 1997 after all. Anyway would we expect anything different? Thanks to Brown's imprudence, UK PLC is in a right royal mess and one way or another we're all going to pay more tax. It's unlikely that, having lied about tax rises so often, Brown's going to break the habit of a political lifetime and come clean so we should all expect more stealth taxes..

ntluser 26-07-2009 15:23

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Given that New Labour do not appear to have any real answers to the current crises, it could be that the stealth tax news has been leaked deliberately by Labour to avoid being re-elected.

We all know that there are insufficient monies in the nation's coffers so it's inevitable that prices and taxes will rise as will unemployment as companies struggle to survive in the adverse market conditions.

I was surprised that the government did not make a modest increase in tax immediately the crunch started rather than leaving it until later and inposing a more draconian rate, then again, as we all now know, proactive strategic planning is not one of New Labour's strengths.

Rather sad and pathetic, really, that only a government spending Taxpayers' money could not come up with simple but effective solutions which the ordinary person on the street would think up quite quickly.

Roll on the general election and let's find some MPs with the brains, honesty and integrity to solve the nation's problems.

soup dragon 26-07-2009 15:43

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i think you will find that as soon as someone is elected as an MP they leave their brains, honesty and integrity in a box at the entrance to the House of Commons!!!

Peter_ 26-07-2009 16:50

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Originally Posted by ntluser (Post 34841400)

Roll on the general election and let's find some MPs with the brains, honesty and integrity to solve the nation's problems.

That is something we will never find amongst the elected fools that inhabit parliament.

bw41101 26-07-2009 17:00

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Originally Posted by martyh (Post 34841325)
surely this would be political suicide

Oh absolutely! However, judging by past performances to date - methinks that this government is too arrogant and stupid to care what anybody thinks.

Now I'm not normally one to wish my life away, but roll on election day!

Si thee :Sprint:

RizzyKing 27-07-2009 02:18

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What political suicide i mean how much worse can things get for this ramshackle bunch of snake oil salesmen. This is exactly GB's style and doesn't surprise me one bit it is completely normal behaviour from this government.

broadbandking 28-07-2009 17:43

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What gets me there is nothing no one can do about this.

Taf 28-07-2009 17:49

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Apart from Revolution.... or Civil Unrest...

martyh 28-07-2009 18:19

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i had a thought ,if the gov is going to increase the tax on homes with desirable views what about people who live next to the old gasworks ,or the demolished pit ,or in a mid terrace back to back will they be getting a non-desirable view discount?,

just a thought ;)

Sirius 28-07-2009 18:40

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Originally Posted by Taf (Post 34842449)
Apart from Revolution.... or Civil Unrest...

Worked for the poll tax

RizzyKing 29-07-2009 14:07

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How will this rubbish work though i mean in our living room if you sit on one side you get a lovely view of lots of nice green trees and if your on the other you get a view of the main road and the school opposite. This is the perfect labour thing completely stupid completely irrational and all about the money.

Osem 29-07-2009 14:35

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It's all a bit reminiscent of this:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Window_tax

Brown's so desperate he's scouring history for tax raising ideas..

Peter_ 29-07-2009 14:54

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Will they tax us for days when it is not raining or when it snows because the snow makes it all look scenic, at what point will this foolishness end.

Scarlett 29-07-2009 15:30

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Originally Posted by broadbandking (Post 34842444)
What gets me there is nothing no one can do about this.

Write to your MP and complain (they do have some uses)

Oh and join those calling for an election sooner rather than later.

viva revolution!

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Originally Posted by Moldova (Post 34842961)
Will they tax us for days when it is not raining or when it snows because the snow makes it all look scenic, at what point will this foolishness end.


Don't worry lads the met office have already worked out that he might try that and spiked his wheel!

SMG 29-07-2009 15:58

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Captain Brown, master of the Titanic.
This is as welcome as another hole in a sinking ship.:(

Brown & his cronies are a bunch of useless, pandering, appeasing idiots, hell bent on raping the country, at our expense.:td:


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