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Escapee 17-07-2009 18:45

Ebay Fraudster at it yet again
 
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/wales/8156754.stm

I have lost count now how any times he has been caught and sentenced, I think he had 12 months youth detention and then a few suspended sentences. The last time was in August 2008 when he was jailed for 24 months.

Apparently he served around 6 months of that sentence and today has been sentenced for 30 months for his latest crimes.

Damien 17-07-2009 19:17

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I can't believe is a married with two children at 22!

Escapee 17-07-2009 19:31

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Originally Posted by Damien (Post 34835859)
I can't believe is a married with two children at 22!

I seem to recall that the second or third time he was caught and sentenced he had one child, his defence used the excuse that he was a changed person since becoming a father.

He was a piece of **** as a teenager when he lived in Pontypool before being convicted the first time, I have relatives who lived by his family and knew him well.

Interesting that the judge jailed him previously to protect the public, was he released because he was no longer a threat or because of prison overcrowding.

What are the odds that he will be out, re-offend, and be back in prison before the current 30 month sentence is up!

Nidge 18-07-2009 02:46

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Put him against a wall and pump a few bullets into him, he's a *******.

soicky 18-07-2009 03:09

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Originally Posted by Nidge (Post 34836200)
Put him against a wall and pump a few bullets into him, he's a *******.

yh, just a little ott.

Dai 18-07-2009 08:05

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OTT? Maybe.

How about giving his full name and address to everyone he's ripped off and let them make their own arrangements..

Scarlett 18-07-2009 08:38

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Why not just give him an injuntion to keep off the internet (they do that to people in the US when computers have been used to perpatrate the crime)

Derek 18-07-2009 09:57

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At least he has earnt enough to buy a time machine. :dozey:

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In August 2008, Mr James said, Shortman was jailed for 24 months for a further five counts of obtaining property by deception through eBay.
August 2008 + 24 months gets me to August 2010.

Unless of course he was released early to avoid overcrowding and saying
"Yeah I've learnt my lesson boss. I won't do it again. By the way where is the nearest internet cafe?"

Welshchris 18-07-2009 10:13

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People who do this sort of stuff in the states have their equivalent to the social services involved to make sure that the kids are not being affected or taught that this kind of stuff is acceptable.

Phaps they should do this sort of thing here.

Escapee 18-07-2009 11:39

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Originally Posted by Derek S (Post 34836293)
At least he has earnt enough to buy a time machine. :dozey:



August 2008 + 24 months gets me to August 2010.

Unless of course he was released early to avoid overcrowding and saying
"Yeah I've learnt my lesson boss. I won't do it again. By the way where is the nearest internet cafe?"

I understand he was released approx early October 2008 and committed his first (new wave) offence in November 2008

A very quick 24 months as you point out!

Derek 18-07-2009 11:45

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I will give the justice system the benefit of the doubt and assume he was on remand for a good few months before sentencing in Aug 08.

Even then its clear he has a pattern of repeat offending. Surely when it comes to early release and parole they should look at past history before letting them out. From the looks of things he hasn't attempted to go straight. All he has done has tried to cover his tracks a bit better by pretending the tickets were nicked by the postie.

Russ 18-07-2009 11:45

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Originally Posted by Nidge (Post 34836200)
Put him against a wall and pump a few bullets into him, he's a *******.

I dread to think what punishment you'd suggest for a murderer or rapist.

Nidge 19-07-2009 08:56

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Originally Posted by Russ B (Post 34836325)
I dread to think what punishment you'd suggest for a murderer or rapist.



The same.

zing_deleted 19-07-2009 09:07

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Originally Posted by Derek S (Post 34836324)
I will give the justice system the benefit of the doubt and assume he was on remand for a good few months before sentencing in Aug 08.

Even then its clear he has a pattern of repeat offending. Surely when it comes to early release and parole they should look at past history before letting them out. From the looks of things he hasn't attempted to go straight. All he has done has tried to cover his tracks a bit better by pretending the tickets were nicked by the postie.

Is it common practice to remand someone for these types of crimes? although as you say he must have been as he didnt even serve half his sentence otherwise

Russ 19-07-2009 09:08

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If that was the punishment for theft then why shouldn't he go on a murder/raping spree too?

The guy is clearly an idiot who has to serve his full sentence this time.

Derek 19-07-2009 11:22

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Originally Posted by zing (Post 34836759)
Is it common practice to remand someone for these types of crimes?

Nope. You normally have to murder a judge or lawyer before they actually remand someone :mad:

frogstamper 20-07-2009 01:38

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Originally Posted by zing (Post 34836759)
Is it common practice to remand someone for these types of crimes? although as you say he must have been as he didnt even serve half his sentence otherwise

My guess would be that this carbuncle had a very long list of previous to be put on remand.

Welshchris 20-07-2009 04:09

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what they should do is post the guys name and address on the net for all the people hes had money from that will sort him lol

Horace 20-07-2009 05:09

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Yes, anyone who commits any crime should have their name and addresses published on the net so angry vigilante mobs can reap justice. We'll start with filesharers and teenagers miming to Pokerface on YouTube and then working all the way up to murderers. Society will be cleaned up in not time.

Sirius 20-07-2009 05:59

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Originally Posted by Russ B (Post 34836325)
I dread to think what punishment you'd suggest for a murderer or rapist.

Public beheading with a Rusty tin can lid :)

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Originally Posted by Horace (Post 34837309)
Yes, anyone who commits any crime should have their name and addresses published on the net so angry vigilante mobs can reap justice. We'll start with filesharers and teenagers miming to Pokerface on YouTube and then working all the way up to murderers. Society will be cleaned up in not time.

Good idea :tu: ;)

Escapee 20-07-2009 16:41

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Originally Posted by Welshchris (Post 34837307)
what they should do is post the guys name and address on the net for all the people hes had money from that will sort him lol

It's not very difficult to obtain his address, but where to post it is the problem. The power of ebay means the buyers are usually living miles away, I dare say if he had ripped off locals he would have been dealt with appropriately.

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Originally Posted by frogstamper (Post 34837286)
My guess would be that this carbuncle had a very long list of previous to be put on remand.

I understood that he was not on remand, and whilst waiting for his court appearance he was committing further crimes. This is the method he applied during his previous court appearances.

He missed his previous court appearance because he was being detained by the police for further crimes.

SB_07 20-07-2009 16:48

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In total, Mr James said, Shortman, had conned buyers out of £7,836.22, sometimes using the username Welshlunatic21.
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He went on a luxury spree spending weekends in New York and staying at a five-star hotel overlooking Times Square.

He hired stretch limos for nights out with his teenage pals and when police raided his home they found it stacked with top-of-the-range computer gear, hi-fis and flat screen TVs.

All of that with £7k?

5-star sprees in NY are not cheap, plus all the other stuff?

Escapee 20-07-2009 18:41

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Originally Posted by SB_07 (Post 34837632)
All of that with £7k?

5-star sprees in NY are not cheap, plus all the other stuff?

That is relating to his first offences when he was 17 yrs old, he took his mates to NY.

Looking at the original BBC report you will find the following for those offences back in 2004. (His latest is the fourth round of offences that are big enough tohit the media)

The boy admitted 21 charges of fraud amounting to £16,105 and asked for a further 64 offences - amounting to £28,860 - to be taken into consideration.

For these offences he was sent to a place for young offenders.

tweetypie/8 20-07-2009 21:29

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Originally Posted by Escapee (Post 34835836)
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/wales/8156754.stm

I have lost count now how any times he has been caught and sentenced, I think he had 12 months youth detention and then a few suspended sentences. The last time was in August 2008 when he was jailed for 24 months.

Apparently he served around 6 months of that sentence and today has been sentenced for 30 months for his latest crimes.

it says a lot for the law in this country,a f £$%^&g joke.

Escapee 10-04-2015 18:32

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Sorry to drag up a very old thread, but he's been at it yet again.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-32252053

His hands should have been chopped off long ago!

arcimedes 11-04-2015 09:14

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Big mistake of his selling to a police officer :dunce:

Sirius 11-04-2015 09:40

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Originally Posted by arcimedes (Post 35770903)
Big mistake of his selling to a police officer :dunce:

The biggest mistake is him ripping people off in the first place.

martyh 11-04-2015 10:22

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Originally Posted by arcimedes (Post 35770903)
Big mistake of his selling to a police officer :dunce:

I'm wondering if that was a sting operation

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He told the judge, John Jenkins QC, Shortman was remorseful
Yeah right :rolleyes:

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"custody has been imposed on a number of occasions since 2007", adding "some would say that has failed".
no kidding :dozey:

Russ 11-04-2015 10:26

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Yeah right :rolleyes:

He was - at being caught.

Sirius 11-04-2015 11:36

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Originally Posted by martyh (Post 35770917)
I'm wondering if that was a sting operation

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Yeah right :rolleyes:



no kidding :dozey:

I hope if he is found doing this again after he is released they double the next sentence if found guilty. Then keep doing that till he gets the point that what he is doing is illegal.

alanbjames 11-04-2015 13:10

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I hope he has the living s*** kicked out of him by someone he defrauds. Its the only way people like him will react and stop. A fine and a slap on the wrist is nothing to him. He proberbly has many more things on the go that the police dont even know about.

Sirius 11-04-2015 13:26

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Originally Posted by alanbjames (Post 35770936)
I hope he has the living s*** kicked out of him by someone he defrauds. Its the only way people like him will react and stop. A fine and a slap on the wrist is nothing to him. He proberbly has many more things on the go that the police dont even know about.

:clap:

Escapee 11-04-2015 13:42

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Originally Posted by Sirius (Post 35770928)
I hope if he is found doing this again after he is released they double the next sentence if found guilty. Then keep doing that till he gets the point that what he is doing is illegal.

I think this is his 3rd or maybe 4th prison sentence for fraud in 10 years, the local newspaper says it's 17 convictions and 77 offences.

I doubt very much if he will ever learn his lesson no matter how long the sentence. His cons are usually Ebay sales, I feel It's a shame he hasn't ripped off a few locals.

Sirius 11-04-2015 14:52

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Originally Posted by Escapee (Post 35770947)
I think this is his 3rd or maybe 4th prison sentence for fraud in 10 years, the local newspaper says it's 17 convictions and 77 offences.

I doubt very much if he will ever learn his lesson no matter how long the sentence. His cons are usually Ebay sales, I feel It's a shame he hasn't ripped off a few locals.

However by doubling his sentence each time he will end up in a position where he is spending more time in prison than out of it which means he will not rip someone off.

arcimedes 11-04-2015 15:06

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There's a lot to be said for the American system (in some states at least but it could be all) of 3 strikes and you get life.

RizzyKing 14-04-2015 03:21

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Fact is some people don't deserve to be a member of society as they have no concept of society and never will and for that small group of people prison is where they belong. Our trouble is we have not invested properly in our prison system too many hand wringing liberals have had too much sway for too long playing up to clueless politicians who want to cut cut cut the prison service so let all sorts of **** out early. Our criminal justice system is a joke and confidence in it is dropping even some police officers I know have said the job feels like a waste of time as they take them off the streets for the system to put them back on it's a joke.

Sirius 14-04-2015 05:27

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Originally Posted by RizzyKing (Post 35771442)
Fact is some people don't deserve to be a member of society as they have no concept of society and never will and for that small group of people prison is where they belong. Our trouble is we have not invested properly in our prison system too many hand wringing liberals have had too much sway for too long playing up to clueless politicians who want to cut cut cut the prison service so let all sorts of **** out early. Our criminal justice system is a joke and confidence in it is dropping even some police officers I know have said the job feels like a waste of time as they take them off the streets for the system to put them back on it's a joke.

:clap:


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