Originally Posted by Russ B (Post 34833606)

As someone who has no part in it but will be inconvenienced by strike action on friday, I don't.

Originally Posted by Russ B (Post 34833611)

Oh I'm glad it's not going to be so bad for the workers, never mind the general public who always gets it in the neck when unions decide to call a strike.

Originally Posted by Russ B (Post 34833614)

No, I don't think so, I don't know anyone that works in a coal mine.

Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu (Post 34833768)

The service is very poor, non delivery of mail is almost constant, mail delivered to the wrong door (within the last six months, l have complained over five times), we have 'foriegn' postman who haven't a clue, you post a FIRST class letter, and it takes a week to deliver, as l have tried a 'trial' letter, so l could complain, Years ago you could tell the time by the postman,

Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 34833608)

there will be lots of overtime when its over so its not all bad:D

Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu (Post 34833768)

....Years ago you could tell the time by the postman.

Originally Posted by Mr Angry (Post 34833808)

Yet another Royal Mail service to have been outsourced to clock and watchmakers!! I always suspected it was just the thin end of the wedge.

Originally Posted by Nidge (Post 34833642)

The Postmen have had it to good over the last years, they used to finish at 10am then skulk off home, the new bosses got wise to them and scrapped the 2nd post, made them sort all their own mail out, introduced mail drop boxes and increased working hours, the postmen didn't like it because they'd been caught out.

Originally Posted by brundles (Post 34833802)

That is one of my gripes about RM going on strike. Fair enough they don't get paid for the days they strike, but as they then work the same hours later at overtime rates they actually end up better off for striking :mad:

Originally Posted by Gary L (Post 34833804)

My postman hates Ebay.

Originally Posted by icestar2 (Post 34833795)

Were having very simlair problems with a new postman not foriegn though(not sure why that would make a diffrence for a postman anyway). He post's recorded items through the door without getting any signature. Not that bad but then last week he put every ones post through the wrong door so we all ended up with next doors mail. Then this saturday he comes up the path does not knock but puts a parcel down on the floor in front of the door and walks off. Anyone could of walked up and just took it.

Originally Posted by STONEISLAND (Post 34833905)

I don’t know how anyone can strike in the current climate with the amount of people unemployed they should be ashamed of themselves!!! :mad:
It’s hardily a skilled job! Sack them all I’m sure some of the unemployed will jump at the chance for a job and fair wage!!!!!! :rolleyes:

Originally Posted by STONEISLAND (Post 34833919)

I dont get your point?

Originally Posted by roadwolf (Post 34833930)

But unfortunately "the unemployed that will jump at the chance" will themselves after a few years go on strike over something they're not satisfied with. I am not sure that many unemployed will give up the option of lying in bed, to get to work for 5am on a winters morning.

Originally Posted by STONEISLAND (Post 34833934)

They knew what the job was all about when they took it on, that would be a very lame excuse. Tell that the milk man who gets paid pittance and have never been on strike.

Pathetic!

Originally Posted by roadwolf (Post 34833935)

Milkman? I haven't seen one for years.:):)

Originally Posted by STONEISLAND (Post 34833934)

They knew what the job was all about when they took it on, that would be a very lame excuse. Tell that the milk man who gets paid pittance and have never been on strike.

Pathetic!

Originally Posted by ZrByte (Post 34833942)

I'd hardly call it a pittance. Milkmen around here are on about 20K p/a Thats more than your typical postie by a long shot.

Originally Posted by Gary L (Post 34833804)

My postman hates Ebay.

Originally Posted by ZrByte (Post 34833942)

I'd hardly call it a pittance. Milkmen around here are on about 20K p/a Thats more than your typical postie by a long shot.

Originally Posted by STONEISLAND (Post 34833951)

:shocked: You have a link to prove that? Sounds anawful lot just to deliver milk.

Originally Posted by roadwolf (Post 34833935)

Milkman? I haven't seen one for years.:):)

Originally Posted by Chicken (Post 34833949)

He should be kissing the virtual feet of eBay as its likely to be the one reason he still has a job. How many letters have you sent recently?

Originally Posted by Russ B (Post 34834041)

A pittance?!

Are we living on the same planet?!

Originally Posted by STONEISLAND (Post 34834049)

Originally Posted by Russ B (Post 34834053)

20 grand a year might not be a massive amount but it's certainly not a pittance.

Originally Posted by STONEISLAND (Post 34834058)

If a milkman/postal worker gets 20k a year I'm shocked. :shocked:

Originally Posted by Russ B (Post 34834066)

Regardless, it's not a pittance by any stretch of the imagination.

Originally Posted by Russ B (Post 34834041)

A pittance?!

Are we living on the same planet?!

Originally Posted by RizzyKing (Post 34834130)

I doubt i will notice they are on strike three times in the last two weeks we got our delivery at 20:20 which is not exactly helpful and routinely don't get any post till 15:00. They might have a grievence with their employers but striking right now is simply not the way to go as many people are having a much harder time then post office workers and don't have the luxury of being able to strike. You took the job if you didn't know what you were joining or how it might change then your ignorance is not my fault and i shouldn't have to suffer for it and neither should anyone else. Be grateful right now to have a job as i know over 40 people that have recently lost thiers and more join that each week.

Originally Posted by Osem (Post 34834192)

The question for me is whether the union's policy of strike action will actually improve the prospects and conditions of their membership or ultimately see the demise of a troublesome state owned monopoly as happened with the miners. I fear the latter.

Originally Posted by ZrByte (Post 34834188)

20:20? :shocked: Thats actually Illegal if I recall correctly. 15:00 doesn't surprise me in the slightest as I often finish only slightly before then due to poor management in our delivery office. If I remember correctly the mail should not be delivered any later than 17:00 though I think there are special exceptions to that rule, I doubt they would apply three times within two weeks.

I'm not sure I understand your point there, On the one hand you say we are lucky to have the right to strike but then on the other you condemn us for exercising that right? I also really don't see how any of us could have predicted how the company would change so I also don't see how you can call that ignorant of us.
FYI Royal mail is trying to further downsize its workforce, and force the remainder to take on their work for less pay. This for a company that is struggling could be understandable though I don't think any workforce would lie down and accept this without any negotiation. Add to this the fact that royal mail isn't struggling anymore and actually doubled its profits last year then I think some may understand why mass redundancies etc are met with such opposition.

At the end of it all really it's kind of a moot point. Royal Mail will be sold in the next couple of years (Probably to DHL or TnT) whatever internal or public opinion on the matter is. Standard mail delivery will likely stop within 5 or 10 years as predicted mail volumes drop and your friendly neighbourhood postie will probably either be replaced by a van driver or a motorcycle courier. I would imagine postage costs will also rise and those of you who complain about getting what little mail you get at 15:00 will likely be in for a shock as that will likely increase to 17:00 - 20:00.

STONEISLAND: Postmen in my part of the country are on 16.5K pa full time. I am on 13K pa for a part time contract.
And I don't have a link the milkman wage I quoted, this was the figure I had quoted to me when I was looking into becoming a milkman just before I started working for Royal Mail.

Originally Posted by ZrByte (Post 34833886)

Out of interest what part of the Wirral do you live in? Don't need a full address, just wondering if you live within my Offices delivery area.

Originally Posted by Gary L (Post 34834738)

I posted a parcel 1st class recorded Tuesday at the post office, and according to track and trace it's still sitting there.

Originally Posted by Julian (Post 34834761)

Yep it will say that until the item has been "Signed For" at the point of delivery.

It could be anywhere between the Post Office and the posties bag, he could also have tried to deliver it and there not have been anyone to sign for it.

Signed For (recorded) services are not tracked. If you want an item tracked you should use Special Delivery or Royal Mail Tracked. :)

Originally Posted by alferret (Post 34835684)

What happened to the strike then? We got post today. Mansfield NG18.

Originally Posted by alferret (Post 34835684)

What happened to the strike then? We got post today. Mansfield NG18.

Originally Posted by Hom3r (Post 34835787)

I have absolutly no sympthy for any of these types who strike ove wages and jobs in the current climate.

I wasn't given a pay rise this year but will be getting a P45 and we weren't even given the option of taking a pay cut.

Sack the lot of them.

Originally Posted by RizzyKing (Post 34836263)

"though some things maybe a day or so late (Who would even notice these days)." Thats exactly why some here have little sympathy though they don't feel the service is what it used to be or that anyone cares.

Originally Posted by Nidge (Post 34835751)

Got some here today to in NG17, I don't know where the strike was but it defiantly wasn't round here.