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papa smurf 10-06-2009 06:39
London's Metropolitan Police accused of waterboarding suspects
 
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/new...cle6466430.ece

no!!- these allegations must be untrue this cant happen in the UK
surely our police don't do this sort of thing , do they?

Gary L 10-06-2009 08:30
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Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 34811369)
surely our police don't do this sort of thing , do they?
Only the bent ones :)

Hugh 10-06-2009 09:07
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http://www.ugo.com/movies/hidden-ide...l-suspects.jpg

Gary L 10-06-2009 09:18
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Derek 10-06-2009 09:20
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Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 34811369)
surely our police don't do this sort of thing , do they?
The fact its made the headlines shows that even if, and its a big if, the allegations are true how unusual it is.

STONEISLAND 10-06-2009 09:45
Re: London's Metropolitan Police accused of waterboarding suspects
 
Fair enough if you ask me. Don’t do the crime if you cannot take the punishment that may come with it. Lucky they did not do it in an Arab country.

Paul K 10-06-2009 10:08
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Think if they were doing this regularly the crime clear up rate would be a lot better.

Lew 10-06-2009 10:24
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Originally Posted by STONEISLAND (Post 34811434)
Fair enough if you ask me. Don’t do the crime if you cannot take the punishment that may come with it. Lucky they did not do it in an Arab country.
It's not the job of the police to punish.

nomadking 10-06-2009 10:27
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Originally Posted by Lew (Post 34811450)
It's not the job of the police to punish.
The problem is that the CPS and the Judges don't seem to see it as their job either.

STONEISLAND 10-06-2009 10:31
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Originally Posted by Lew (Post 34811450)
It's not the job of the police to punish.
Not but it’s the police job to prevent. Presides when do criminals get punished nowadays anyway? :confused:

Hugh 10-06-2009 12:18
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Originally Posted by Gary L (Post 34811423)
Not quite how I had imagined you'd look, but hey-ho. :)

Does your photo mean you're a pipe bender by trade?

Derek 10-06-2009 12:23
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Maybe they were just watching a bit too much TV?

https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...2009/06/76.jpg

I'm sure he was doing some early 80's waterboarding a few episodes back.

Hugh 10-06-2009 12:56
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Firm, but fair...

(Well, firm anyway)

Gary L 10-06-2009 13:08
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Originally Posted by foreverwar (Post 34811517)
Not quite how I had imagined you'd look, but hey-ho. :)
You're the shorty, first on the left? :D

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Does your photo mean you're a pipe bender by trade?
Only if your photo means you're a regular in police lineups.

Hugh 10-06-2009 13:18
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I wasn't in the photo - just call me "Keyser Soze".



(or am I?)

BBKing 10-06-2009 15:26
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Presides when do criminals get punished nowadays anyway?
With 90,000 in jail? Seriously?

Xaccers 10-06-2009 16:39
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Originally Posted by BBKing (Post 34811638)
With 90,000 in jail? Seriously?
You're forgetting, they all get pampered, with monogramed dressing gowns, spas, playstations/xbox/wii, home cinema systems in their cells, access to drugs/porn/farm animals, holidays abroad, 5 course meals including lobster and caviar.
It's all true I tell you, I read it in the Heliograph ;)

Think of Butlins with more fun in the showers...

punky 10-06-2009 16:48
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Apparently the alleged victims had their heads put down a toilet and had it flushed. Had I had known this during school I would have been straight on to Amnesty International and had my bullies up in the dock at the ICC (or the equivalent at the time)

Russ 10-06-2009 16:55
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So, drug dealers get their heads flushed down the toilet.

Meh.

Will21st 10-06-2009 17:22
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Cannabis dealers,to be precise....

welcome to the wonderful world of prohibition,where corruption and police mis-conduct are all too common.:rolleyes:

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Originally Posted by BBKing (Post 34811638)
With 90,000 in jail? Seriously?
yeah,our incarceration rates are a national disgrace,unfortunately no-one in the mainstream media and wider pop. seems to have caught-on to this.We have double the per capita rate of any European country,except Poland.

Derek 11-06-2009 11:59
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A bit more being leaked out on this including the initial complaint was made by another cop and not the flushees.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/news...k-suspect.html

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The Independent Police Complaints Commission (IPCC) is investigating 30 claims against 11 officers in Enfield crime squad in north London, including those of “water torture” in which a man’s head was allegedly forced inside a toilet bowl as it was repeatedly flushed.
They did not complain, but a police officer is understood to have raised concerns with seniors, and used the word “waterboarding”.
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Originally Posted by Will21st (Post 34811690)
yeah,our incarceration rates are a national disgrace,unfortunately no-one in the mainstream media and wider pop. seems to have caught-on to this.We have double the per capita rate of any European country,except Poland.
Yet some serious offenders seem to be able to walk about without seeing the inside of a prison.

I've no doubt that there are some people in prison who do not deserve to be there and would be far better completing some form of community punishment.

As it is when prison holds absolutely no fear for most people and in some cases they re-offend to get back inside there has to be questions asked about

A: The regime inside prisons
B: How bad their lives must be outside and how its been allowed to get to that state.

papa smurf 11-06-2009 16:27
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Swirlie

The act of holding the victim upside down with his or her head in the toilet bowl, and flushing. Typically perpetrated by two or more older, larger individuals. Instances of swirling have been prosecuted in courts.[4] More commonly known as bogwashing in the U.K., or dunnyflushing in Australia. Variants of the swirlie include the brown swirlie (or chunky swirlie) and the yellow swirlie, depending upon the contents of the toilet bowl.


we used to do this at school - better if there's a big floater in the bowl :D

Hugh 11-06-2009 19:02
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Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 34812337)
Swirlie

The act of holding the victim upside down with his or her head in the toilet bowl, and flushing. Typically perpetrated by two or more older, larger individuals. Instances of swirling have been prosecuted in courts.[4] More commonly known as bogwashing in the U.K., or dunnyflushing in Australia. Variants of the swirlie include the brown swirlie (or chunky swirlie) and the yellow swirlie, depending upon the contents of the toilet bowl.


we used to do this at school - better if there's a big floater in the bowl :D
Yes, it is quite common in schools - but as a teacher, you should know better. :D

Derek 25-06-2009 07:03
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A bit more has leaked out. It's only being reported in the Sun as far as I can see.

http://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/scot...nning-tap.html

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Charges against five suspected drug dealers were dropped - despite the seizure of 10kg of cannabis - after one man made the sensational claims.
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But senior sources at the Met last night confirmed that the claims were groundless.
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None of the drug suspects appeared wet in videotapes made by the police. And they made no specific complaints at the time of their arrest.
But they were later approached by anti-corruption cops probing alleged theft by the squad.
One suspect then made his claim about the sink.

Derek 30-03-2010 10:34
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And now the whole matter has been quietly dropped with no charges brought.

http://www.policeoracle.com/news/Met...red_22758.html

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Ex-Met commander John O'Connor said "The allegations were complete tosh from start to finish. It is a disgrace."

Flyboy 30-03-2010 10:46
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Quote:
Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 34812337)
Swirlie

The act of holding the victim upside down with his or her head in the toilet bowl, and flushing. Typically perpetrated by two or more older, larger individuals. Instances of swirling have been prosecuted in courts.[4] More commonly known as bogwashing in the U.K., or dunnyflushing in Australia. Variants of the swirlie include the brown swirlie (or chunky swirlie) and the yellow swirlie, depending upon the contents of the toilet bowl.


we used to do this at school - better if there's a big floater in the bowl :D
Why does that not surprise me.

papa smurf 31-03-2010 16:00
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Originally Posted by Flyboy (Post 34990782)
Why does that not surprise me.
is it because your a person obstinately or intolerantly devoted to his or her own opinions.....

Earl of Bronze 31-03-2010 21:38
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Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 34991713)
is it because your a person obstinately or intolerantly devoted to his or her own opinions.....
My contention would be that Flyboy got swirlied at school, and as such is marked for life by the experience.... ;)

Tuftus 31-03-2010 23:57
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Originally Posted by Flyboy (Post 34990782)
Why does that not surprise me.
I was going to ask if (s)he had personal experience of the head down the bog thing?

papa smurf 01-04-2010 17:39
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Originally Posted by Earl of Bronze (Post 34991993)
My contention would be that Flyboy got swirlied at school, and as such is marked for life by the experience.... ;)
oh my gosh what a truly awful thought -the poor thing.. that does explain a lot though :shocked:


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