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Mick 04-05-2009 21:12

Well done VM - NOT in the 5 top worse companies...
 
... For answering the phones too long ...

BBC Watchdog survey...

Out of the five that were...

BT
Tiscali
Vodafone
3
Sky

Sky was the worst... A a random call to them last week took 2 hours 10 minutes to answer.

...

Quote:

Originally Posted by BBC Watchdog
Hanging on the telephone
We made one hundred calls to each company, phoning their main customer service line at different times of the day, over a three-day period. We timed each phone call, from the moment we finished dialling, to when we first heard a human voice. All in all, we made 500 calls.

On average, the companies answered in less than three and half minutes. The fastest by far was Three, with an average of just one minute, 39 seconds before we got through to someone. The quickest single call of all was to Vodafone: they put us through to a human in 50 seconds flat.

BT and Sky were the two companies that kept us waiting the longest. On one call, BT took 24 minutes and 47 seconds to connect us to a human; Our longest single wait of all was to Sky who took even longer at 29 minutes and 33 seconds and then cut us off.


On hold for two hours
Sky cut us off so often, we wondered if they were just having a bad day. A few days later we called them again one extra time just to be sure. On call number 101, Sky blew all previous records out of the water. They kept us on hold for a marathon two hours and ten minutes. We could have gone to the movies in that time. We asked you what you thought of the amount of time Sky kept us on hold;

One man said: "I can't believe you were on the phone for two hours man. I don't know what sort of company would let you wait for two hours and if they are even worth letting you wait for two hours to be honest. I would have put the phone down."

http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/watchdog/...vice_test.html

martyh 04-05-2009 21:27

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i've just finished watching that and must agree with the findings during my years with sky (6) i found the customer service appalling
having said that i phoned virgin last week to complain about my bb and spent about 30mins on the phone then got put on hold for 15mins while he consulted with a tech then the line went dead so i phoned back to get a recorded message saying the offices were shut

lsproc 04-05-2009 21:27

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Crikey 2 hours!

Thats pretty bad...

zing_deleted 04-05-2009 21:29

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ive never had a problem with getting through to Sky ive only had a problem with at least 5 maybe 6 Sky plus boxes and thats only the last contract. I had 4 boxes previously until I got a Panasonic silver instead of Amstrads I think they were pre Sky+

I always check saynoto0870 and dial standard geo numbers if I can think maybe that helps

chickendippers 04-05-2009 21:31

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Unfortunately I've never had the pleasure of speaking to a single British person at Three, even when I wrote a letter of complaint! I recall they downsized their CS presence in Scotland a while back :(

Sirius 04-05-2009 21:40

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For the short period i had a Sky+ box i lost most of my hair from the total shambles that Sky customer services and technical support subjected me to. It ended up with me disconnecting my service with them. The Sky+ box is sat in a cupboard collecting dust now along with the adsl router.

Welshchris 05-05-2009 01:23

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Last time i rang Sky on behalf of my sister to sort out problems she was having with her emails, it took almost 20 mins for them to answer the phone and then we were passed between different departments all in all we were on the phone almost an hour.

Paul K 05-05-2009 07:08

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3 departments? Did you call the BB tech department? Sky's phone platform is driving it's staff nuts at the moment, hopefully they will fix it soon as it currently is not doing it job properly.

mentalis 05-05-2009 09:00

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I have never had to call Sky CS... yet.

I called VM at the weekend because my V+ box forgot which channels I was subscribed to (it has been turned off for some time). They were helpful, and were British.

Still makes me laugh though that I was going to be on hold for so long that I could choose my own on hold music. To be fair, they said I would be on hold for ten minutes, and it was ten minutes.

richard1960 05-05-2009 11:07

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Well nicky campbell said the watchdog team would have had a chance to go down the cinema and watch a film in the time it took sky to answer the phone,not bad for a communication company.

Also i beileve sky was the only company to have made watchdogs list every year since they run the survey,the man from sky stated that they are having problems with the phone systems,fair enough, but what went wrong in the two previous years i wonder. When sky came number one, as watchdog said this year was skys hatrick,well done to vm though for not appearing in the list,something must be going right on that front at least.:)

Stuart 05-05-2009 11:26

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul (Post 34788793)
3 departments? Did you call the BB tech department? Sky's phone platform is driving it's staff nuts at the moment, hopefully they will fix it soon as it currently is not doing it job properly.

I found it slightly funny that the guy that Nicky Campbell was harrassing about the bad performance was happy to blame their phone system, while also bringing in the fact that they answer 10s of millions of calls each year.

I am not denying that the phone system is crap (it wouldn't be the first time that a company has bought in an IT system that is not up to the task* and I dare say it won't be the last), but rather than just saying the old system is crap, shouldn't he have said something along the lines of they were trying to fix it?



* See the call logging system the London Ambulance Service used for a while in the late 90s for an example of that. I studied it in my degree. They bought an off the shelf system that was designed for a smaller ambulance service. It presented the operator with a scrolling list of calls, but didn't log those that went off the top of the screen. As such, if the operator did not answer a call fast enough (which was a distinct possibility with the rate the calls are made to the London Ambulance Service), the call went off the top of the screen and was forgotten by the system. That was a little worse than the Sky system though. At least with Sky, the worst that can happen is that they lose service. If a 999 call is not answered fast enough, the person could die.

Paul K 05-05-2009 12:28

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Trouble is they have been trying to fix it, then they changed a part of it and now they are trying to fix it again. Unfortunately they have also rolled out HD and a brand new viewing card within the last couple of months and it's not doing their queues any favours.
I must admit though if customers listened to the options and took the right ones the customer services queues would be shorter. Customers often moan at queue length and then you look at your screen and see they came in via the wrong department completely.
Sky need a callback option though, it is do-able and would save a lot of grief on the lines.

Stuart 05-05-2009 12:47

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul (Post 34788926)
Trouble is they have been trying to fix it, then they changed a part of it and now they are trying to fix it again. Unfortunately they have also rolled out HD and a brand new viewing card within the last couple of months and it's not doing their queues any favours.
I must admit though if customers listened to the options and took the right ones the customer services queues would be shorter. Customers often moan at queue length and then you look at your screen and see they came in via the wrong department completely.
Sky need a callback option though, it is do-able and would save a lot of grief on the lines.

Actually, when I worked for Blockbuster, their internal tech support line had a nifty call back system. If they (or you) were busy, you just rung them once and hung up. They would call back, and when the operator did, he/she would already have the store details up. Saved an awful lot of time. Not sure if it's practical for Sky though.

I agree about customers listening to the options, but with some queries, it's not always obvious which department to go to. I've had to phone companies, and found my query could fit two or three different departments.

Welshchris 05-05-2009 13:08

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul (Post 34788793)
3 departments? Did you call the BB tech department? Sky's phone platform is driving it's staff nuts at the moment, hopefully they will fix it soon as it currently is not doing it job properly.

i called tech support and because the password wasnt working they said i had to speak to customer services to verify account details and then put back to tech support it was a joke lol

Paul K 05-05-2009 13:22

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The only time you have to do that is if either you aren't the account holder or details on the system are incorrect. Oh and to be honest they shouldn't have dealt with anyone but the account holder for a primary email address issue as it breaches DPA. Was your sister there?

Chris 05-05-2009 13:30

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Well, congrats VM for not being on the list. There once was a time when NTL was a permanent fixture in surveys like this.

Paul K 05-05-2009 13:42

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris (Post 34788971)
Well, congrats VM for not being on the list. There once was a time when NTL was a permanent fixture in surveys like this.

There's always next time lol

mentalis 05-05-2009 13:46

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul (Post 34788979)
There's always next time lol

Does that make this a missed target for VM? :erm:

KnightRider 05-05-2009 20:16

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Its another case of ' coming soon' from VM just like HD

huxleypiguk 05-05-2009 20:21

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Interesting that Vodafone and Sky both have the same outsourcer.....

chrispy2000 12-05-2009 11:24

Re: Well done VM - NOT in the 5 top worse companies...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Welshchris (Post 34788954)
i called tech support and because the password wasnt working they said i had to speak to customer services to verify account details and then put back to tech support it was a joke lol

I called VM’s CS the other day about changing a service so I phone 150 and option 2 change of service then option 3 change of service. Went through to India or Manila, I wanted some information in regards up grading my BB. “Yes sir if you would like to give me your details I will set that up for you”, no I only won’t some information first. “I’m sorry sir I do not have that”. I tried again and got the same. I then tried the option to leave and got straight through to a UK call centre and spoke to a very helpful gentleman who was able to answer my questions.
What is the point of having options when you choose the correct options and the people you speak to don’t know anything about the service they are selling, and isn’t it funny when you threaten to leave you go to a UK call centre.

xK1DREAPERx 29-05-2009 14:18

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Damn

Maggy 29-05-2009 14:44

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I'm remembering a time with Ntl when I would make a pot of tea,have a snack ready and have a book handy and just sit at the phone reading,drinking and eating until I got an answer...I never do that now. :)

Mind the simple step of providing a service status number must have cut down on some of the unnecessary phone calls..

Zhadnost 01-06-2009 12:00

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I've never had a bad call with Three, or been kept holding for any length of time.

Probably the only decent indian call centre I've ever been put through too.

Sadly, only the business customers have a UK-based call centre now.

100meg 01-06-2009 19:40

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they probably would have been in top 5 if everyone thats left since it became vm had voted

As NTL they were incompetent at a few things but as VM there a deliberate rip off with most stuff


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