Originally Posted by chaos23 (Post 34782782)

new flu virus suspected of killing up to 60 people in Mexico has the potential to become a pandemic, the World Health Organization's chief says.

Margaret Chan said the outbreak was a "serious situation" which needed to be followed closely.

I would get down to tesco and stock up on some tinned food.

Originally Posted by SMG (Post 34783041)

We tend to treat flu with a bit of contempt nowerdays. But, in 1918, when the world population was 1.8 billion, an influenza epidemic incapacitated 1 billion and killed 20 million people, all within the space of 8 weeks. Scientists have been working on that virus for years, but there is still, no cure. Most of the people who died were in their thirties. So with that in mind, stocking up may not be a bad idea.:Yikes:

Originally Posted by SB_07 (Post 34783053)

Just like SARS became a worldwide pandemic? The news/government loves to scare people, keep us all in order.

Originally Posted by Bender (Post 34783068)

no point working on it until it's out as swine flu changes strain rapidly on both H and N sides.

My other half is a nurse and only 1 month ago, the governemt put into place a massive contingency for a flu pandemic. and I mean MASSIVE contingency, so much so that the mass grave sites have been allocated already in the UK as the cremetoriums will not be able to keep up as they cannot run 24/7. all this being pushed on an unpresidented scale in the last month. it's all she seems to have been doing! gathering notes, and doctors contact details, ensuring she is fully aware of the phasing and protocols were there to be a pandemic. suddenly, there's an outbreak.... coincidence? it's like they knew it was coming. and so soon after the announcements that world population was far too great for us as humans to sustain. strange how things work out.

oh, and to add to the fear mongering, the UK has it's first possible contaminee currently being treating in Harrow I think it was. The victim recently landed from Mexico, which is handy.

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indeed - we need something to concentrate on as a mass. with no wars or anything for us to fight against as one, populations get restless. totally to keep us in check, but this could well be the biggy imo.

Originally Posted by chaos23 (Post 34783094)

Dont you think its suspect tht they are still allowing people to fly in and out of Mexico?

Originally Posted by Russ B (Post 34783095)

That's because they want people to catch this. It's the New World Order's method of population control.

Originally Posted by chaos23 (Post 34783098)

Well, i know thats the case, but do you?

Originally Posted by Russ B (Post 34783102)

Of course I do. The connections between this and 9/11 are too obvious to be ignored.

Originally Posted by Russ B (Post 34783106)

Be careful what you say. You never know who has access to the CF database.

Originally Posted by Turkey Machine (Post 34783051)

Vitamin C, paracetamol, and a lot of sleep might be in order for those infected. :)

So we have something to rival bird flu's supposed full-blown scale, except this one, provided the thing doesn't spread beyond the Atlantic, shouldn't make its way to Europe. If it does, you can bet it'll be in the UK within a week.

Originally Posted by slug (Post 34783117)

http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/Wor...415269308?f=vg

The look of disappointment on the Sky newscasters face was classic.

Originally Posted by Turkey Machine (Post 34783051)

Vitamin C, paracetamol, and a lot of sleep might be in order for those infected. :)

So we have something to rival bird flu's supposed full-blown scale, except this one, provided the thing doesn't spread beyond the Atlantic, shouldn't make its way to Europe. If it does, you can bet it'll be in the UK within a week.

Originally Posted by RizzyKing (Post 34783150)

OMG all this time i thought the new world order was the conspiracy of idiots but how wrong was i this proves it beyond all doubt :rolleyes:. While this is serious and could get a lot more i don't think it is time to panic just yet and i think i will wait a while before i start to overly worry about this. Same as always keep an eye on developments but don't go cancelling anything just yet :).

Originally Posted by Horace (Post 34783156)

I don't know what the fuss is about Tamiflu treats H1N1.

Originally Posted by chaos23 (Post 34783094)

Bender, are you joking?. Mass graves? Dont you think its suspect tht they are still allowing people to fly in and out of Mexico? Of course it is going to spread.

Originally Posted by Bender (Post 34783175)

I'm absolutely serious. she hasn't shut up about it for 4 weeks, and now this to add fuel to her fire!!! it's doing my head in!!!

Originally Posted by Gary L (Post 34783211)

Hands up all those who had the swine flu vaccine when they were 11. :)

Originally Posted by slug (Post 34783229)

Were you mistaken for a pig?

Originally Posted by RizzyKing (Post 34783204)

Bender i wouldn't worry about it too much they used to be called neps (national emergency plans) don't know what they are called now but they have always happened and the allocation of land for mass graves has also been something that has happened for at least 80 odd years so tell her to relax lol.

Originally Posted by RizzyKing (Post 34783150)

OMG all this time i thought the new world order was the conspiracy of idiots but how wrong was i this proves it beyond all doubt :rolleyes:. While this is serious and could get a lot more i don't think it is time to panic just yet and i think i will wait a while before i start to overly worry about this. Same as always keep an eye on developments but don't go cancelling anything just yet :).

Originally Posted by chaos23 (Post 34783367)

Yeah ok you dont panic. Go about your usual business. Dear o dear. If someone had a gun to your head i think you would still be optimistic. The problem is that optimism will get you into trouble.

Originally Posted by chaos23 (Post 34783367)

Yeah ok you dont panic. Go about your usual business. Dear o dear. If someone had a gun to your head i think you would still be optimistic. The problem is that optimism will get you into trouble.

Originally Posted by Stuart C (Post 34783376)

So, what do you suggest we do? Panic? If we did that, we would only make the possible outcome of this flu worse.

Originally Posted by zinglebarb (Post 34783164)

Have you ever watched The Stand? ;)

Originally Posted by foreverwar (Post 34783381)

Well, I am worried - I woke up this morning feel woozy, dehydrated, aching all over, headache, dry mouth and throat.

Then I realised - it might have been the 2 pints of Leffe, the 2 large glasses of Shiraz, the Irish Coffee, and the very large single malt I had last night.

But no, since I have the symptoms, I best go down to A&E with all the others who have similar symptoms, as best to be safe than sorry.

re the "optimism getting us in trouble" - I would rather be optimistic and be occasionally let down, than be perpetually pessimistic and think the worse, going through life being miserable (imho).

Originally Posted by chaos23 (Post 34783367)

Yeah ok you dont panic. Go about your usual business. Dear o dear. If someone had a gun to your head i think you would still be optimistic. The problem is that optimism will get you into trouble.

Originally Posted by chaos23 (Post 34783379)

You dont have to panic, but dont play things down when we can clearly see there is a serious and possibly, catastrophic problem ahead. People should be asking their government what they are doing to prevent this reaching the UK? Why are they not stopping flights to and from Mexico?

Originally Posted by Damien (Post 34783392)

Optimism allows us to continue our lives without living in constant fear that we are about to be stuck by tragedy. No one is saying we should be unaware of this virus but panicking will help no one and probably led to more problems.

There is a virus, it appears to be a lot milder the further to gets from Mexico. So let's presume it's probably going to be ok.

Originally Posted by Damien (Post 34783392)

Optimism allows us to continue our lives without living in constant fear that we are about to be stuck by tragedy. No one is saying we should be unaware of this virus but panicking will help no one and probably led to more problems.

There is a virus, it appears to be a lot milder the further to gets from Mexico. So let's presume it's probably going to be ok.

Originally Posted by Stuart C (Post 34783394)

As I understand it, the only people who have died so far have been in Mexico. There are several possible cases outside mexico (including Scotland), but no one has died. There is also (according to Channel 4 news) some evidence to suggest that this flu strain is not as dangerous as the one in 1918.

I am not saying there isn't a possible Flu pandemic, but do I believe it is any more serious than, say, AIDS (which despite being seemingly ignored by the media is still a very dangerous disease)? No, I do not.

Originally Posted by Sir John Luke (Post 34783401)

Such as?

Originally Posted by chaos23 (Post 34783403)

Sorry but AIDS is not airbourne. Swine flu clearly is. I agree AIDS is dangerous but you can protect yourself. How can you protect yourself and your family from a airbourne virus?

Originally Posted by chaos23 (Post 34783403)

Stock up on food, bottled water, medication. If there is a outbreak in the UK then the best you can do is stay at home.

Before this occurs though everyone should be questioning their government on what plans they have to keep this virus out of the UK. Again i ask why are flights still being allowed in and out of Mexico and then onto the UK? If you want this thing to spread thats the best way to go about it.

Originally Posted by chaos23 (Post 34783403)

Sorry but AIDS is not airbourne. Swine flu clearly is. I agree AIDS is dangerous but you can protect yourself against it. How can you protect yourself and your family from a airbourne virus?

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Stock up on food, bottled water, medication. If there is a outbreak in the UK then the best you can do is stay at home.

Before this occurs though everyone should be questioning their government on what plans they have to keep this virus out of the UK. Again i ask why are flights still being allowed in and out of Mexico and then onto the UK? If you want this thing to spread thats the best way to go about it.

Originally Posted by Stuart C (Post 34783376)

So, what do you suggest we do? Panic? If we did that, we would only make the possible outcome of this flu worse.

Originally Posted by chaos23 (Post 34783403)

Stock up on food, bottled water, medication. If there is a outbreak in the UK then the best you can do is stay at home.

Originally Posted by joglynne (Post 34783419)

Unfortunately we live in a world where movement between countries is easy. Stopping movement between the UK and Mexico would not halt the spread of this disease as it has already made its way to other countries. For example , Mexico is a favorite destination for USA students and many have been there for the recent Spring break. There have already been confirmed cases in New York which can possibly be linked to students that have been holidaying in Cancun. Do you suggest we stop flights to and from the USA as well?

http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/...LVHrAD97Q85O00

Originally Posted by chaos23 (Post 34783434)

The World Health Organisation have just said that this Swine Flu strain could become more dangerous.

[B]It's quite possible for this virus to evolve... when viruses evolve, clearly they can become more dangerous to people," said Keiji Fukuda, of the global health watchdog.

Originally Posted by chaos23 (Post 34783434)

We may as well stop all flights around the world. Lets face it the world economy is F***** already so i cant see it doing any harm.

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The World Health Organisation have just said that this Swine Flu strain could become more dangerous.

It's quite possible for this virus to evolve... when viruses evolve, clearly they can become more dangerous to people," said Keiji Fukuda, of the global health watchdog.

Mr Fukuda also called for international vigilance as health experts wait to see whether the virus will turn into a worldwide pandemic.

http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/Wor..._United_States

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6 confirmed cases in Canada now.

Originally Posted by Charlie_Bubble (Post 34783199)

*cough* ;)

Originally Posted by keith (Post 34783452)

Looks like I picked the wrong week to give up smoking!

Originally Posted by chaos23 (Post 34783399)

Sorry to be such a pessimist but we are way overdue for a pandemic its a fact that one will occur very soon.

Originally Posted by Bender (Post 34783444)

I already mentioned that it can change strain quite easily in post 6

Originally Posted by RizzyKing (Post 34783519)

Well it's good to see the internet working for the good of all with a nice dose of panic lol. Seriously this has a very very long way to go before it becomes something to worry about and as for our one poster advising people to stock up and barricade themself in well just :rolleyes:.

Originally Posted by chaos23 (Post 34783399)

Sorry to be such a pessimist but we are way overdue for a pandemic its a fact that one will occur very soon. I dont want it to happen, but there are things we can do rather than relying on this corrupt government.

Originally Posted by Charlie_Bubble (Post 34783497)

*sniff* :D

Looks like I picked the wrong week to quit amphetamines.

Originally Posted by freezin (Post 34783205)

Aren't the comparisons between present day flu strains and the 1918 epidemic a bit over the top? In 1918 the population had been ground down by 4 years of war, and medical treatment then wasn't what it is now.

Edit: Typo

Originally Posted by SMG (Post 34783619)

there is no cure, for this

Originally Posted by SMG (Post 34783619)

Thats quite a good point, however, one Billion people caught the flu, this was at a time when international travel was nowhere near as common as it is today, now, millions of people roam the world freely. How would those numbers transpose today?

Originally Posted by SMG (Post 34783619)

Thats quite a good point, however, one Billion people caught the flu, this was at a time when international travel was nowhere near as common as it is today, now, millions of people roam the world freely. How would those numbers transpose today?

Originally Posted by Damien (Post 34783781)

[*]The Flu season is ending here, and experts seem to think that would help stop this virus from spreading.

Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 34783792)

Yes, but what about the 09/10 season?

I think Swine flu should just add to the squad during the close season to continue their impressive rise up the table this year.
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Originally Posted by ginge51 (Post 34783913)

Suspected Swine Flu Case In Manchester .

Literally 10 mins from me :(
Sure is spreading, or is this media fearmongering??
http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/UK-...15269774?f=rss

Originally Posted by RizzyKing (Post 34783935)

I do think the media for whatever reason are hyping this .. <snip> ...

Originally Posted by RizzyKing (Post 34783935)

I do think the media for whatever reason are hyping this but i personally just see that as the latest thing they want us to live in fear of. I in no way shape or form feel i am untouchable but i don't think this is going to be the thing to end me just yet and as it is hitting more develpoed nations it is proving to be less then fatal so really no need to panic.

Originally Posted by lauzjp (Post 34783940)

food?

how about they're trying to get people to panic buy in order to reduce piles of food? or something.. :shrug:

Originally Posted by TheDaddy (Post 34783956)

Consequences of a 24 hour rolling news culture more like, got to hype any story to get viwers/ sell papers

Originally Posted by soicky (Post 34783965)

lol, sky news have the BREAKING NEWS banner rolling 24/7.

Originally Posted by Charlie_Bubble (Post 34784042)

2 confirmed cases in Scotland.

Originally Posted by slug (Post 34784045)

Link?

Originally Posted by Ravenheart (Post 34784048)

Originally Posted by SB_07 (Post 34783951)

Spot on really, they love to cause mass panic at least once a year or more.

Millenium bug (never happened)
SARS (never really left Asia and now we don't even hear about it)
9/11 (one other terror attack on the west since then)
Iraq's nukes (LOL)
Iran's nukes (LOL)