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wackeviews 19-04-2009 20:37

Contraception, right or wrong?
 
the big question debate



i have heard it,

god will back me all the way,

because these religious people are encouraging,

don't ware protection and go all the way.

a dilemma was put forward,

2 lovers with which one is aids infected,

the religion representatives still stood there ground,

to protect the other, they objected.

this row is a no brainer,

religion and beliefs are clearly wrong,

but has anyone got any back bone,

remember jesus christ did sacrifice for us all to belong.

disease and unwanted baby's,

are spreading like wild fire,

the devil is at work,

he is never going to tire.

i listened to the debate on bbc 1,

nicky campbell did present the same old story,

and unless religion dose update and adopt and protect,

the future dose look gory.

THE JOE IS THINKING < ANY GROUP OR FAITH THAT FEELS ITS WRONG TO USE CONTROCEPTION < WELL THEY ARE NOT WORTH FOLLOWING < SORRY <

Peter_ 19-04-2009 20:41

Re: CONTROCEPTION < right or wrong ?
 
I take it you are trying to be our resident poet going by your other posts.:D

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zing_deleted 19-04-2009 20:47

Re: CONTROCEPTION < right or wrong ?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by wackeviews (Post 34778951)
THE JOE IS THINKING < ANY GROUP OR FAITH THAT FEELS ITS WRONG TO USE CONTROCEPTION < WELL THEY ARE NOT WORTH FOLLOWING < SORRY <


I as far as I am aware not many christian faiths are anti. Catholics are but that faith is based on a lot of outdated concepts that have nothing at all to do with biblical doctrine

Sirius 19-04-2009 20:58

Re: Contraception, right or wrong?
 
No issue with it.

wackeviews 19-04-2009 21:16

Re: CONTROCEPTION < right or wrong ?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by moldova (Post 34778954)
i take it you are trying to be our resident poet going by your other posts.:d

.



have u been watching me moldova lol

lucy7 19-04-2009 22:17

Re: Contraception, right or wrong?
 
Ok.....so what is your actual point on this thread please?

rogerdraig 19-04-2009 22:56

Re: Contraception, right or wrong?
 
was wondering that too ;)

wackeviews 20-04-2009 07:44

Re: Contraception, right or wrong?
 
my point is simple and clear < it is wrong for anyone or any faith or religion to say contraception is a bad thing and should not be used < maddddd aint it

Russ 20-04-2009 08:15

Re: Contraception, right or wrong?
 
No it's not 'wrong' because everyone is entitled to their own views. An opinion which is unpopular does not make it 'wrong' so if that's your question you'll never get a legitimate answer.

Taf 20-04-2009 08:44

Re: Contraception, right or wrong?
 
It seems to me that some religious doctrine is all for population growth to increase their following so that they become dominant, or maintain dominance, in numbers.

wackeviews 20-04-2009 08:48

Re: Contraception, right or wrong?
 
yes everyone is entittled to there own view but if you are a follower of one of these religions and they are clearly saying its wrong to use controception and all deseases and unwanted pregnancys are on the rise < are they not shooting them self in the foot < you say its down to individual responsibilty but that is clearly showing people are not responsible and why is it so wrong if they carry on doing what they are doing but use protection ????????????

Saaf_laandon_mo 20-04-2009 10:58

Re: Contraception, right or wrong?
 
Just a quick note, you shouldn't have to hold down the shift key when you're trying to type in a comma.

Chris 20-04-2009 11:15

Re: Contraception, right or wrong?
 
I think there's an old mint imperial stuck under his ? key as well.

Saaf_laandon_mo 20-04-2009 11:25

Re: Contraception, right or wrong?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris (Post 34779235)
I think there's an old mint imperial stuck under his ? key as well.


The aniseed ones were my favourite.

rogerdraig 20-04-2009 11:40

Re: Contraception, right or wrong?
 
saying that contraception is going to stop you getting diseases is also a stupid thing to say too

though i can see nothing wrong in using it from a biblical point of view ( willing to discuss that if needed ;) )

i do have a problem with the word SAFE being used with the pushing of it too it may make sex "safer" than none but it doesnt make it completely safe in any sense of the word

also i doubt the many women raped in Africa wouldnt get much benefit from condoms either ! The problem in those countries has much greater complications to address, ranging from teaching respect to human life and moving from a reliance on having many kids to support the family and many many more ( that many ere may mention which may be even more important than those too )

Damien 20-04-2009 11:45

Re: Contraception, right or wrong?
 
Condoms have a very high rate of protection so it is ok to say it's 'safe'

LondonRoad 20-04-2009 11:48

Re: Contraception, right or wrong?
 
Should you put on the condom before you ask a girl out or wait until after dessert?

Russ 20-04-2009 11:48

Re: Contraception, right or wrong?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Damien (Post 34779258)
Condoms have a very high rate of protection so it is ok to say it's 'safe'

...if used *correctly* that is.

STONEISLAND 20-04-2009 11:53

Re: Contraception, right or wrong?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Russ B (Post 34779261)
...if used *correctly* that is.

Thats true nothing worst than trying to put it over your head before intercouse.

rogerdraig 20-04-2009 17:08

Re: Contraception, right or wrong?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Damien (Post 34779258)
Condoms have a very high rate of protection so it is ok to say it's 'safe'


only if used properly and they wont protect you from lots of stuff unless you use them not just for full sex but oral ect and use dental dams

they really shouldnt be used as your only means of preventing pregnancy either

plus i guess from the start of this thread its not about pregnancy in this country but those third world ones

even with a free supply of condoms i dont think you will get very far the problem is much more complicated than some churches not backing contraception

it is the whole attitude the male population has there

Peter_ 20-04-2009 17:35

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Quote:

Originally Posted by STONEISLAND (Post 34779266)
Thats true nothing worst than trying to put it over your head before intercouse.

Mine usually fit OK................................................ ....Oh that head[img]Download Failed (1)[/img]

lucy7 20-04-2009 18:54

Re: Contraception, right or wrong?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Damien (Post 34779258)
Condoms have a very high rate of protection so it is ok to say it's 'safe'



My 25 year old was a result of using a condom!!

They break!!!!!

Peter_ 20-04-2009 18:58

Re: Contraception, right or wrong?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by lucy7 (Post 34779594)
My 25 year old was a result of using a condom!!

They break!!!!!

I hope you are not a catholic Lucy[img]Download Failed (1)[/img]

xocemp 20-04-2009 19:22

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Moldova (Post 34779598)

IIRC Lucy is a Jehovah witness :)

Peter_ 20-04-2009 19:25

Re: Contraception, right or wrong?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by xocemp (Post 34779614)
IIRC Lucy is a Jehovah witness :)

I am pretty sure she is not catholic as they tend not call round to people so as you say either a Jehovahs witness or possibly a Methodist or similar.

moaningmags 20-04-2009 19:33

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Quote:

Originally Posted by xocemp (Post 34779614)
IIRC Lucy is a Jehovah witness :)

Yup she is :)

lucy7 20-04-2009 19:38

Re: Contraception, right or wrong?
 
Shut up taking the mick!!!!!
I was married!

:);):)


and not a Jehovahs witness then!

moaningmags 20-04-2009 19:51

Re: Contraception, right or wrong?
 
I wasn't taking the mick:angel:, it was Moldova :p:

My youngest is 11 and I'll have been married 8 years this August but together for over 19yrs.

I have fond memories of Watchtower and Awake magazines, my mum always bought them and I always read them haven't for years though.

Contraception is definitely a good thing.

Stuart 20-04-2009 19:57

Re: Contraception, right or wrong?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by STONEISLAND (Post 34779266)
Thats true nothing worst than trying to put it over your head before intercouse.

Yes there is... Putting over your head after intercourse..

Raistlin 20-04-2009 20:04

Re: Contraception, right or wrong?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Stuart C (Post 34779639)
Yes there is... Putting over your head after intercourse..


:redcard:

lucy7 20-04-2009 20:08

Re: Contraception, right or wrong?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by moaningmags (Post 34779636)
I wasn't taking the mick:angel:, it was Moldova :p:

My youngest is 11 and I'll have been married 8 years this August but together for over 19yrs.

I have fond memories of Watchtower and Awake magazines, my mum always bought them and I always read them haven't for years though.

Contraception is definitely a good thing.


I know Mags!

I can take it, coz I dish it out big time, only in light hearted banter though!!

(They are free now--magazines)

My kids all now are in sexual relationships, they use condoms and more, no chasity belts though! (They are not JW's)

Russ 20-04-2009 21:17

Re: Contraception, right or wrong?
 
Tenuously linked to this subject.....

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/south_asia/6161691.stm

Peter_ 20-04-2009 21:20

Re: Contraception, right or wrong?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by lucy7 (Post 34779653)
I know Mags!

I can take it, coz I dish it out big time, only in light hearted banter though!!

(They are free now--magazines)

My kids all now are in sexual relationships, they use condoms and more, no chasity belts though! (They are not JW's)

I was not sure what religion you were but feel suitably chastised now Lucy.http://smileyshut.com/smileys/new/Re...espect-050.GIF

rogerdraig 20-04-2009 21:43

Re: Contraception, right or wrong?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by lucy7 (Post 34779653)
I know Mags!

I can take it, coz I dish it out big time, only in light hearted banter though!!

(They are free now--magazines)

My kids all now are in sexual relationships, they use condoms and more, no chasity belts though! (They are not JW's)

just to point out ;) that does not imply that we make our women wear chastity belts

( at least not unless it includes handcuffs in the game :angel: me lol )

lucy7 20-04-2009 21:54

Re: Contraception, right or wrong?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by rogermevans (Post 34779726)
just to point out ;) that does not imply that we make our women wear chastity belts

( at least not unless it includes handcuffs in the game :angel: me lol )



:shocked:

Roger!!

Peter_ 20-04-2009 21:56

Re: Contraception, right or wrong?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by lucy7 (Post 34779739)
:shocked:

Roger!!

The cabin boy:D

lucy7 20-04-2009 21:59

Re: Contraception, right or wrong?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Russ B (Post 34779711)
Tenuously linked to this subject.....

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/south_asia/6161691.stm



Oh golly gosh!

Just read that link, must admit I have heard that on the grapevine before though!

:)

Peter_ 20-04-2009 22:01

Re: Contraception, right or wrong?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by lucy7 (Post 34779747)
Oh golly gosh!

Just read that link, must admit I have heard that on the grapevine before though!

:)

A little bit rubbersh was'nt it.:D

rogerdraig 20-04-2009 22:04

Re: Contraception, right or wrong?
 
and exactly who do they think will go and get them and ask for a small size ?

lol

Peter_ 20-04-2009 22:09

Re: Contraception, right or wrong?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by rogermevans (Post 34779749)
and exactly who do they think will go and get them and ask for a small size ?

lol

They would be better with the larger one as then they could wash it outhttp://smileyshut.com/smileys/new/fr...756[1].gif

Gary L 20-04-2009 22:29

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Quote:

"It's not size, it's what you do with it that matters,"
That's what I keep saying :)

TheDaddy 21-04-2009 05:37

Re: Contraception, right or wrong?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by rogermevans (Post 34779255)
saying that contraception is going to stop you getting diseases is also a stupid thing to say too

though i can see nothing wrong in using it from a biblical point of view ( willing to discuss that if needed ;) )

i do have a problem with the word SAFE being used with the pushing of it too it may make sex "safer" than none but it doesnt make it completely safe in any sense of the word

also i doubt the many women raped in Africa wouldnt get much benefit from condoms either ! The problem in those countries has much greater complications to address, ranging from teaching respect to human life and moving from a reliance on having many kids to support the family and many many more ( that many ere may mention which may be even more important than those too )

All true, it'sinteresting that a lot of people accept Africans blindly follow orders about not wearing condoms, yet never asks itself why they don’t follow the rules on monogamous marriage.


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