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kirk1690 04-04-2009 13:12

speeling?
 
until or untill ?:dunce:

Sir John Luke 04-04-2009 13:15

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'Until' or 'till'

Kymmy 04-04-2009 13:16

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Until

Halcyon 04-04-2009 13:20

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until

Delta Whiskey 04-04-2009 13:30

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http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/until

Maggy 04-04-2009 13:56

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Well now with any number of free spell checkers plugins available for IE and FF and the PM facility available at this siteI'm wondering why we have a thread dedicated to the spelling of one word?

Caspar 04-04-2009 14:36

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Maggy J (Post 34768596)
Well now with any number of free spell checkers plugins available for IE and FF and the PM facility available at this siteI'm wondering why we have a thread dedicated to the spelling of one word?

I agree, but maybe some CF members aren't as confident in spelling or googling as you are? So, in time of need they turn to the community they're in and depend upon for many things including, it seems, spelling support. :)

Sir John Luke 04-04-2009 14:37

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Maybe we could broaden the discussion to cover - "Why 'until', but 'till'?

lucy7 04-04-2009 14:42

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Just one L.

I liked the link that Chris did about ..... lose and loose.....if i could link stuff I would do it here!

joglynne 04-04-2009 15:14

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I use both until and 'till but thought I would have a look on the web and found the following usage guideline in the Oxford Advanced Learner's Dictionary

till /t{I}l/ conj., prep., noun, verb
> conj., prep. = until: We’re open till 6 o’clock. * Can’t you wait till we get home? * Just wait till you see it. It’s great. help Till is generally felt to be more informal than until and is used much less often in writing. At the beginning of a sentence, until is usually used.

<snip>
©Oxford University Press, 2005.

Maggy 04-04-2009 15:28

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Caspar (Post 34768615)
I agree, but maybe some CF members aren't as confident in spelling or googling as you are? So, in time of need they turn to the community they're in and depend upon for many things including, it seems, spelling support. :)

But then we may well end up with several short threads just asking for spelling help?I know this is a help site but that would just become ridiculous and extremely untidy
Now if we can perhaps keep all the spelling inquiries to this one thread as lucy suggested maybe I can see reason.

rogerdraig 04-04-2009 15:43

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i might like that lol my spelling can be so bad even the on-line spell checkers and built-in ones give up on even deciding what word i meant often

xocemp 04-04-2009 15:56

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Quote:

Originally Posted by rogermevans (Post 34768653)
i might like that lol my spelling can be so bad even the on-line spell checkers and built-in ones give up on even deciding what word i meant often

You just take your time buddy :tu: :)
But for the love of the English language, please don't revert to text speak.

kirk1690 04-04-2009 17:26

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Quote:

Originally Posted by xocemp (Post 34768657)
You just take your time buddy :tu: :)
But for the love of the English language, please don't revert to text speak.

I wasn't asking for spelling help I was just wondering how other people thought this word was spelt , until untill , it is the first one but the second one just looks right or does it.

xocemp 04-04-2009 17:32

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You seem to have mistaken that I have quoted you when adding a reply to rogermevans :)

kirk1690 04-04-2009 18:05

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Quote:

Originally Posted by xocemp (Post 34768737)
You seem to have mistaken that I have quoted you when adding a reply to rogermevans :)

oh that was a mistake mate meant to press reply , no offence intended.

Graham M 04-04-2009 18:08

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Sir John Luke (Post 34768556)
'Until' or 'till'

it's 'til - 1 l, a till is something used in a shop ;)

Maggy 04-04-2009 18:23

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From Chambers..

Quote:

until prep 1 up to the time of • worked until 8. 2 up to the time of reaching (a place); as far as • slept until Paris. 3 with negatives before • not until Wednesday. conj 1 up to the time that • He waited until she emerged with the money. 2 with negatives before • not until I say so.
ETYMOLOGY: 13c as untille; see till1.


till1 prep up to the time of • wait till tomorrow. conj up to the time when • go on till you reach the station. See also until.
ETYMOLOGY: Anglo-Saxon til.
That 13 c spelling shows how much the language has changed..

Sir John Luke 04-04-2009 19:23

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Graham M (Post 34768745)
it's 'til - 1 l, a till is something used in a shop ;)

Wrong!

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/till

...but why, when it's 'until'?

soup dragon 04-04-2009 20:23

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surely the question should be 'speeling' or 'spelling' ;)

Graham M 04-04-2009 20:36

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Sir John Luke (Post 34768804)
Wrong!

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/till

...but why, when it's 'until'?

Yeah I've just looked it up, apparently either is correct, I was only taught 'til at school, it's a shortened form of "until" but till is a completely separate and correct word apparently

Maggy 04-04-2009 22:02

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Yet again I'm the Invisible Woman..:confused:

Graham M 04-04-2009 22:28

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Sorry Maggy I missed your post :D

joglynne 05-04-2009 10:03

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< cough >. I'm even more invisible. #10


:D

Maggy 05-04-2009 10:24

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Quote:

Originally Posted by joglynne (Post 34768996)
< cough >. I'm even more invisible. #10


:D

Mrs and Mrs Invisible.We should start a club.:D

Anonymouse 05-04-2009 12:40

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My General Rule of English Spelling:

For words whose pronunciation is different from the spelling, if it looks wrong it's right, and vice versa. :D

FYI, I got an A for my AEB English ('O' Level equivalent, but harder), and consider myself an excellent speller (if there is such a word!). This is in spite of 5 years of pretty much continual warnings that if my handwriting didn't improve before the exam, my paper would be thrown in the bin. The general opinion of it was that it looked like the trail of a spider with too many legs that'd fallen into an inkwell and wandered over the page after drinking far too much of whatever spiders drink on a night out.

It didn't improve. It couldn't (and hasn't in the 30+ years since). I tried everything, I really did. I still got an A. Go figure. :rolleyes:


Paul 05-04-2009 13:20

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One we have fun with at work ;

enrol or enroll

Sir John Luke 05-04-2009 13:25

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dispatch or despatch?

rogerdraig 05-04-2009 15:07

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any ideas on insitue ( as in still in place )

Hom3r 05-04-2009 15:11

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Sir John Luke (Post 34769159)
dispatch or despatch?


Both are correct

The other one that I like

Material / Materiel

The later being ued for millitary hardware.

Hugh 05-04-2009 15:23

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Originally Posted by rogermevans (Post 34769228)
any ideas on insitue ( as in still in place )

in situ

rogerdraig 05-04-2009 16:13

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thankyou

Angua 05-04-2009 17:32

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It is easier to spot others spelling mistakes than ones own ;)

I just get annoyed with people who do not use a spell checker when they have one to use.

TheNorm 05-04-2009 18:32

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Angua (Post 34769306)
...I just get annoyed with people who do not use a spell checker when they have one to use.

Aye ewes my spill chequer wons in a whale. It's grate.


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