Labour MP Predicts Total Islamification of Britain
 

This was brought to my attention yesterday......I know that some here will consider the website it's being reported on to be not worth considering as a reliable source, any thoughts on his comments (if they are true)?
http://bnp.org.uk/2009/03/labour-mp-...on-of-britain/

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Not in my lifetime

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i think thats total rubbish. there would be chaos. Things in the UK are already fragile as it is when it comes to religion etc and this would cause civil unrest.

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That depends how long you live. ;)

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I'm less concerned with that ( I don't think it would happen either) than the fact that a Labour MP feels it's ok to stand up and say such a thing.....

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I suppose a Muslim Parliament and a Muslim Council of Great Britain would have to be formed first. Oh, wait a minute they already have.:erm:

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It depends how it was said and whether the BNP have to chosen to quote it out of context. I don't find them the most reliable of sources for information. Interestingly the worst excesses of our tabloid press don't appear to have picked up on it.

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Did you not listen to the video clip? I don't think it's any great surprise that politicians like Malik say this sort of stuff. It's what the people who vote for him want to hear.

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well that will put me in my eighties but Allah willing I'll still be able to shoot straight :shocked:

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and why shouldnt he, if its what he believes? theres nothing racist in saying what he believes.

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Yes I did see the clip and it seemed clear to me that it was a throwaway line in an attempt at humour. (the fact that he laughs and smiles after delivering the line might be a clue)

He then goes onto to remind, still in my view with humour, any journalists present that this is not his objective. (No mention of that in the BNP script)

I'm not suprised that the BNP and those who sympathise with them are trying to make an issue of it.

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There would be civil war and it would be bloody cuz I doubt the Islamic government would worry about our human rights

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That's funny, I was reading Stormfront the other day, and they were saying that the Jews control the world financial system. Makes you think, doesn't it? I know some people will consider a bunch of Nazis as in some way unreliable on matters affecting the Jewish faith, but I think it's important to consider all views, don't you?

Meanwhile, for BNP fans:

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/03...lish_spitfire/

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Indeed. Only by considering all views can they be dismissed/ adapted or adopted.

It's usually by considering both extremes that I manage to find myself back where I started - somewhere in the middle. (or at least a little left of centre. ;))

Great link. :D

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I am with Zing on this the would be civil war but knowing our governments they would bend over backwards to pacify muslims and such like.

The extent that we let people ride roughshod over us came to light the other day when my daughter received a form to fill in from our local police after her car was broken into, this form asked her name and address and to tick what race, the first box was Asian the second was Black and last in this list was White British, the excuse will be it was alphabetical but that's not how it looked, this is a primarily White North European country and we are put at the bottom of an official form.

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Fill it in upside down. :rolleyes:

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Its a joke really the way we fawn over political correctness and this was a case of a bit to far.

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Can I point out (even though it's been pointed out before), that he said "at this rate, the whole Parliament will be Muslim" as a joke (please see clip at 0:20), and he then said he could see a time when there would be a Muslim Prime Minister, not the "Total Islamification of Britain". Why is this any different from having a Jewish for a Catholic Prime Minister.

I think the thread title is totally misleading and inflammatory.

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I read this and I thought.....

Because that was.....

To me.....

I submit to you that, as with many things in life, this is all about who you are rather than what's on the form. You perceived something that simply wasn't there, the plain fact of the matter is that the form is ordered alphabetically.

You say that it's wrong to put 'whites' at the bottom. If it were the other way around how would you suggest the police explain to the other races why they appear at the bottom?

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It's not PC though, it's A to bloomin' Z !! :D

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I know its alphabetical and can see that but it does look wrong in so many ways, but that is the way of the world nowadays.
:D

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What's the way of the world? Innocent things looking wrong? I agree ;)

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Maybe that's why Hitler wanted an Aaaaaaaryan race. :erm:

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Same here :tu:

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:erm: Sorry if it is.......I have no sound here atm.......I'll have a look/listen at the vid later.

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Just another story by the BNP to stir up hatred. I tend to ignore anything from the BNP as it's just total garbage.

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Your upset because 'White' is at the bottom of a Alphabetical form....

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Unfortantly that's not what people want him to have said, so they will ignore this, and the topic is going on for another 20 pages with the usual suspects ignoring the reality of the situation.

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It was a smirk, not a smile imo. It didn't look like an attempt at humour to me......

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Watch the clip, he's serious. Now imagine what we would have to say if a white christian was in the govt of a muslim country and saying stuff like that....

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Ok loathe as i am to get into this the clip comes from the bnp and anyone can edit these days to a good standard so i am not taking the video at face value for a start. Secondly we know there is a tiny minority in this country that wants a fully islamic UK and maybe just maybe he was appealing for every single vote he can get afterall he is a politician with an eye on keeping his snout in the trough. Thirdly the level of insecurity with identity is very evident in this from some posters and the best way to stop anything like this from happening is by being secure in your identity and when and if the time comes being prepared to stand by that and show others that you have that security.

Sadly i do feel we are heading nearer and nearer to serious trouble in this country but only because a small group have that agenda and a means to promote that agenda the media in some areas plainly shows this day in day out. I will follow my own path and not one laid down for me by someone else no matter how many publications they have and if we all do the same and don't allow ourselves to be split into the groups ready for trouble we will have a far happier and more content country. Oh and for future reference i will accept bnp content as being true about the same time as pigs are flying.

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So you are saying the clip is fake in some way?

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That may be but did that man say those words?

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He did not predict the total (or partial) Islamification of Britain.....

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True, should have edited that cut/paste of mine while I had the chance :(

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Actually I think we are more likely to have a totally atheist regime and government...:rolleyes:

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What i am saying is that i do not trust the bnp and that any video can be edited. We have no way to know whether this video has been edited to give a context that wasn't meant or even implied at the time.

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:clap::clap:

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.....and if it wasn't edited? What would you say about it then?

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What's bad about what he said?

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I'd say it's nothing certain Muslim groups haven't been aspiring to for years. They have long wanted to make London the western capital of Islam. This bloke is simply playing to the gallery, making claims like that. Telling them what they want to hear.

Let's not forget, Michael Portillo once got up and told the Tory Party Conference that the Poll Tax would be a vote winner. ;)

Re: Labour MP Predicts Total Islamification of Britain
 

So you want him to comment on something someone didn't say? :confused:

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He is an MP who is stating that he wants the PM to be muslim! How the hell can you fail to get annoyed about this? I'm an atheist and not even English but I can't understand how you can be so complacent about this....:confused:

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Erm, no......I want him to comment on what someone did say.

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So where's the official video of his speech? Others are available, why not his? There may be an innocent answer.

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You would be happy about (and see nothing wrong with) all MPs being muslim and the PM being muslim......in England? :erm:

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Given the source is highly dubious exactly what is it you expect us to do about it ??. Sorry but i have a life that has far more important things to get worked up about then some spurious claim made about a video i cannot verify as being authentic and untouched in anyway.

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Have you read the article?

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[QUOTE=Ramrod;34758274]He is an MP who is stating that he wants the PM to be muslim! How the hell can you fail to get annoyed about this? I'm an atheist and not even English but I can't understand how you can be so complacent about this....:confused:
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If I thought he was the right man for the job, the religion of any future prime ministerial candidate wouldn't be high up on my list of priorities.

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I'm amazed at you lot. OK, the source could be better but if the video is for real then its deeply concerning. Rather than address the possibility that whats in it may be true you are content to simply rubbish its source and leave it at that.

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Ramrod no offence but i can't help feeling your blowing this way way out of proportion and taking at face value an at best highly dubious source as being true without an agenda something that source has yet to manage.

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I do, and will continue to, treat ANYTHING from a BNP source with utter contempt.

http://www.theyworkforyou.com/mp/shahid_malik/dewsbury

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Um, countries lead by muslims aren't usually known for their tolerant attitudes to democracy, other faiths, free speech.......

Re: Labour MP Predicts Total Islamification of Britain
 

Do you feel that way about Disraeli (who was Jewish), or Michael Howard (who could have been PM), or Tony Blair, who became Catholic? Why would having a Muslim PM be such a bad thing?


You asked him to comment on a hypothetical statement

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As a knee jerk reaction, I tend to agree with you. That might sometimes not be fair though....

The voting record described on that site seems at odds with what he said on that video......:scratch:

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But it isn't real, and that's the point - you are (imho) conflating a piece of propaganda into something that it isn't.

Here (again) is the actual speech Linkylinklink - he makes a joke about it.

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Sorry if it seems I'm blowing it out of proportion. I'm just amazed that no on wants to actually comment on what was said in that video (it may be for real), just sweep it under the carpet by rubbishing the source....

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I tend to look at people as individuals... not by their faith, creed, colour or class or choice of avatar etc

If a person who became PM happened to be a muslim, he would have been put their by a process of democracy, the same way that he/she would be removed. We would not suddenly become a satellite muslim state.

God forbid we ever have a RC Prime Minister lest he immediately cedes us with the Vatican.:erm:

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But what he said was he would like 20 Muslim MPs (in proportion with the Muslim % of the UK population), and he hoped there would be a Muslim PM in his lifetime - not exactly the "Islamification of the UK", is it?

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Indeed and in the rest of the UK too.

He wants the PM to share his faith. So what?

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Or a disabled or gay PM, then he/she would make us all disabled and or gay....:dozey:

Strangely enough, on that note, when Maggy was PM, we didn't all become women. :D

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Hmmm....the sound is out of sync with the video.....could be anyone saying those words. I hope to hell it is simply a stitch up attempt......like you lot are saying.
I posted this thread in the hope someone here could pull a snopes type link out of the net to demonstrate it's falsehood or veracity.
Maby someone will.....:)

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Don't be silly, disabled or gay people don't have several organisations devoted to those aims :dozey:

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Also because, as foreverwar pointed out, he was making a joke. So the source presented it as they wanted people to see it. So the context is not for real so what is the point on commenting on it?

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....and the rest of the cabinet. Tell me Russ, how many countries run by muslims allow christian churches on their soil?

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I looked at the official conference site for a video of his speech.

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As I have already said, it doesn't look like he's making it look like a joke to me......but anyway, I'm not sure of it's authenticity now either. I just wish that someone here could give us a definitive answer on that.

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Was it there? Or was it missing (like the BNP said)?

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Blair was a Christian. Does that mean we were run by Christians for 11 years? Unless of course you're under the impression a Muslim leader will only allow fellow Muslims in his Cabinet and swap everything over to Sharia Law?

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Here is the original "synced" speech, put on to YouTube late December 2008 (which seems to contradict that this speech was being kept "secret").

Link

But I suppose people believe what they want to believe.

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He didn't say that - now you are making stuff up, Rammy.

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I don't really think that is going to happen, we can't find evidence that explicitly states that he does not want a Islamic Britain. He is making a joke, or an exaggeration to prove a point, by commenting on the success of Muslims in politics by stating at this rate all of parliament will be Muslim. He then laughs and makes the comment about it not being his intention.

Although his wish for a Muslim Prime Minster is not wrong, or scary, it makes sense. I think everyone wishes for a Prime Minster whom best represents their view, so Jews would wish the same, Christians would wish the same and I as an atheist wish the same.

Finally, no matter what his alleged wishes and predictions are they will not happen. His country is increasingly less religious, as Maggy says, the chances of a Atheist parliament and Prime Minster are far more likely.

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He did, "the whole parliment will be muslim"

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Par for the course in these types of thread.

The guy is saying what he wants for his vision of Britain. I dare say there is enough anti-Muslim feeling in Whitehall to ensure it never happens.

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http://www.theglobalunity.com/index....129&Itemid=272

Haven't had a chance to view/listen, but this seems to be the 'official' version (use the > to scroll right).

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That link doesn't help his case really. We have a justice minister who seems preoccupied with all things muslim rather than all things British and who clearly hasn't been edited (as some have claimed here)

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Excuse me Russ, but he did say that....
....and you still haven't anwered my question, just sidestepped it....

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I don't see anything referring to Christian churches being abolished.

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Again 'without prejudice', as I've not had the chance to listen, this was a Muslim conference, so it's hardly surprising if his speech covered 'all things Muslim'.

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Oh, come on - it was a Muslim conference and a mostly Muslim audience. I used to attend Tory Conferences, and strangely enough, most of the topics were those concerning Tories and their viewpoints (whoda thunk). I attended a University and Colleges Information Systems Association conference in Liverpool last week, and we seemed to focus on IT and Higher Education. Methinks you are looking for reasons to condemn.

And yes, he did say that, but most people seem to realise that,when he grinned and commented about the press, it was a joke.

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.......to the exclusion of anything else, I noted. But maby I'm just paranoid (I'm serious, I'm willing to entertain that notion) :D

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We shall see, I hope I'm wrong....:)

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My question wasn't referencing the video, but in reply to your post.....

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Tory and IT isn't a religion. Silly comparison....

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I hope it was a joke.:(

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Thank you, thats the first post in this thread that acknowledges what he seems to be saying.......
I hope you are wrong and that he was just joking.

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Can we just bring some reality to this thread - how in a Higher Beings name would Muslims gain a majority of the 650 MPs; start up the "let's convert Britain to Muslimia Party", and then they would sneak around at night brainwashing everyone to convert to Islam, and making part of the conversion a pact to vote for the LCBTMP.

At the last election, NuLab won with just under 10 million votes, and at the 2001 Census there were 1.5 million Muslims in the UK (and if we say conservatively half of those were children who can't vote, which makes 0.75 million voters). The LCBTMP would have to multiply the number of Muslims 13 times. And that assumes no one votes against them, which some of the comments on this thread, seems highly unlikely.

Reality check, anyone.

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Cool, I'm happy with that :tu: :)

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I agree, some of the stuff here is M.A.D....

I watched the conference video and it seemed clear that he was joking.... it wasn't the smile that tipped me off but it helped.... The clear reason for me is that he was speaking as though it were a theoretical mathmatical problem like what I used to do at school e.g what is the next number in the sequence

2, 4, 8, 16, 32, ??

if you continue in this fashion you can theoretically reach/exceed any total as defined with the puzzle...

1st are we naieve enough to believe that our system of government is so fragile that it couldn't cope with a muslim PM

2nd Even if he were a muslim despot, that simply is not enough to de-rail our system of govt

3rd It wasn't that long ago that a Black president of America would have been tolerated.

Who can really say whay will happen in 30 years?

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Look how much our democratically elected govts have done to give our country up to Europe's governance....
You honestly think that a 'muslim despot' couldn't do even more damage?

......but we are getting silly now :D

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Just to put in my two penneth, I neither want a Muslim PM a Christian PM or any politician that defines him/herself by their particular brand of faith.
I don't want to see any politician in this country behaving like their counterparts in the US, whereby everything they do is followed by the words god willing, in my opinion a democracy should be atheist in that religion should play no part at all in the day to day running of a country.
As far as I'm concerned religion is already too close to politics in this country, what other western democracy has church leaders sitting in their upper or second houses with a vote on current laws? instead of worrying about the BNPs propaganda we should be more concerned about the current and up-coming religious effect on the Lords.
How much longer before we have Imam's, Rabbi's and other religious leaders demanding a seat? Whatever government faces this problem will have two choices as I see it, either to capitulate and therefore have an ever growing religious element to our "liberal democracy" or grasp the nettle and legislate that the current bishops will not be replaced when they die.

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don't you know it!

look at the once proud British Empire and European settlers of yester-year. travelling to far off lands on their wooden sail boats. making peaceful contact with natives, edging their way in, then taking over the land for themselves (I'm obviously talking about northern ans southern America and Australia mainly).

is history repeating itself in a cruel, ironic way? only time will tell I suppose. no-one can really predict the future.

at the same time, maybe we would all be better off with a unified world. one where boundaries of lands does not matter and all ethnicities live peacefully together without prejudice and unrest. why would a muslim not make a fantasic leader for the UK? one should not judge another based on the language they speak or the colour of their skin, should they?

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I'm pretty sure you can also include the rest (as in what was considered a part of the empire e.g. India at one time though maybe only parts not all)....

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I was just thinking, yes in terms of the BNP this is very silly.... However, didn't Maggie Thatcher sack her cabinet (mostly), then put in people she liked. Then Slept with one or two or was that just flirting and rumour? before her demise.

I offer none of this as fact I simply dont see the need just now to look into Maggie and her rough rule... I seem to recall snippetts is all.

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The native Americans, Australian aborigines, Maoris and all the other natives of the countries you conveniently "omitted" may disagree with your rather simplistic "I'm all right, Jack, so screw you (and thank you for all your assets) attitude.

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The problem is foreverwar your not looking at the empire through rose tinted glasses;) I mean we gave Africa and India the railways, and "civilised" Johnny Foreigner...what more could they have wanted?
It seems some people believe the empire was purely an altruistic endeavour on our part done out of the goodness of our hearts.
Just a little example of our "altruistic" behaviour was how we flooded China with Indian Opium in the process causing untold misery, and when the Chinese government complained we went to war to insure this insidious trades survival, not once but twice, yep those were the days.:rolleyes:

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I'm not sure what you are getting at here. my post was to highlight the fact that the 'civilized' europeans went to these lands and killed a ludicrous amount of natives in order to gain their land and claim it for their own. this includes the red indians and aborigines, etc all culled in the name of kings and queens... please clarify your point.

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Depends on which culture moves away from paganism into Science first, Christainity or Islam? From what little I know (or care) Islam is far more inbred as a way of life than Christianity, and so, given enough time and given enough "people in charge that put career befor standing up and saying something" Islam will take over the World OR all people that are "into" Islam end up dead, which happens first. One would hope that at some point in the future we either discover " A God Exists" OR everyone wakes up and realises things are the way they are until we figure out the "The Meaning Of Life" accept it and get on with it. You die, you die, don't worry about it. It's not a competition to prove who is right, and if it is, leave the rest of us out of it.

Islam can take the planet, so can Christianity, all I ask is they have the decency to leave a little bit for the rest of us to do what we want.

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I'm not going to bite on that :D

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Um, yes, thats true.....but we (as in anyone who is alive today) didn't, so whats your point?
In my case, my ancestors didn't have any imperialistic tendencies so I don't even have any (strange f*cked up) ancestral guilt either...

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Oh well done Edmund :rofl: If only it was that simple, funny thing is, in my mind, it is :dunce:

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"Western democracy" is the new "....in the name of kings and queens".

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Apologies - it was not clear to me that your post was attempting to be "humourous".

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Two things have just occured to me re this thread.
1) Several participants here rubbished the video on the grounds that it came from a bnp site. Now that the original full length vid has been linked to (demonstrating that it wasn't a hoax) are you going to actually address what was said in the vid? (you know who you are)
2)The point has been made that he is simply joking. Is it normal for a muslim to joke with the words 'god willing'? I'm assuming that there would have been many pious muslims in that audience who would take a dim view of that kind of thing. Not something that a polititian would want to be doing? That would then imply that he wasn't joking?

Re: Labour MP Predicts Total Islamification of Britain
 

(sigh)

The man was saying he wants the PM to share his religion...nothing wrong with that...nothing to see here...please, move on.

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i thought it was the larch tree

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.......and the rest of the govt......what happens if this comes to pass since countries run by muslims are rather incompatable with western democratic principles?
You may argue that this is unlikely to actually come to pass. Thats immaterial, the point I'm making is that our govt has a minister who wants this to come to pass.....I find this worrying.

Re: Labour MP Predicts Total Islamification of Britain
 

Well you worry to much than.

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Thats probably what people said about Hitler as well......
It's interesting that you are unwilling to actually address my points and simply address the fact that I'm worried. :scratch:

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"and thats when i lost it your honour" This thread has gone from daft to silly and back a few times so now seems like a good time to leave have fun all cya l8r.

Re: Labour MP Predicts Total Islamification of Britain
 

my point regarding this comment was in post 78, paragraph 3, where i said;

"is history repeating itself in a cruel, ironic way? only time will tell I suppose. no-one can really predict the future."

Re: Labour MP Predicts Total Islamification of Britain
 

Rammy I think you are likely to find that a larger percentage of the population who have no interest in religion what so ever are likely to have the larger voice in this matter.In case you hadn't noticed the atheists have become militant and are arguing back big time against what they see as the militarism of all religions.. and there are a lot more of us than there was when I was a young teacher.

Anyway what someone wants and voices is a long way from what they are likely to realise or see.;)

Re: Labour MP Predicts Total Islamification of Britain
 

I agree, but what do you have to say about that labour MPs wishes for the future of this country's government?
"god willing"

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Ok m8, run away rather than address the points I have raised.
First the vid was a hoax
.....that was disproved
Then he merely joking
.....muslims probably don't joke with the words 'god willing'
Then I'm told 'don't worry, it will never happen'
......thats immaterial, we have an MP whos game plan would seem to be incompatable with our democracy.

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:clap: :clap: :clap:

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Immaterial, he shouldn't be saying/hoping for stuff like that.