Dave saves the economy
 

Have you heard the latest plan from the CONservatives to save the economy? The massive savings proposals for familes? The get rich overnight scheme?

Freeze licence fee, says Dave

Three pounds off your television licence fee. Well, I can buy that yacht, the villa and the Bentley now.

But to heck with the black and white viewers, it's only a pound off.

Re: Dave saves the enconomy
 

Don't take it out on HP though. He's only promising to freeze it for this year. That's as effective as reducing vat by 2p:)

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Bit of an over-reaction there, Flyboy, imho - all he was saying was that in these times of purse-tightening, perhaps the BBC should do it's bit.

Can't see anything in the linked article about "saving the economy" - or was that a bit of theatrical hyperbole on your part? ;)

Re: Dave saves the enconomy
 

Hooray for Dave!

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This is good, but only if these truly reflects the BBC's outgoings. I.E If the cost of production is increasing then freezing the licence fee would be a stupid idea. It would smack more of a populist stunt at the expense of the BBC as opposed to getting the BBC to act within the current economic climate.

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"But to heck with the black and white viewers, it's only a pound off. "

so you don't think black and white license holders are important eh

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I don't think the £3.00 saving is the real issue here. It's the principle that there are government / taxpayer funded organisations that we the public get no real control over or say in how much is being paid to them. Just like our Council Taxes, and other costs, why should everything be going up in price all the time? These organisations shouldn't be isolated from the general economy and difficulties in finding the pennies that many are.

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But if you want the service, you have to pay for it. This forum is awash with accusations about content quality from the BBC and the CONservatives want to reduce it even further. But that is besides the point; Dave has a history for battles with the BBC. His time spent in his nepotistic job at Carlton TV showed that.

To paraphrase a friend of mine "he is a black and white politician in a high definition political world."

Re: Dave saves the enconomy
 

Yes, very clever move by Dave from PR.

Now tell us how a party with thirty years of free market ideology behind it
copes with the ruins of the world economy and the destruct-testing failure of most of its basic economic precepts.

Answer came there none...

Re: Dave saves the enconomy
 

I've been everywhere trying to find a black and white HD ready set

Re: Dave saves the enconomy
 

Buy a standard HDTV, then set the colour to zero - that will do it.;)

Re: Dave saves the enconomy
 

You'd still need a colour TV licence doing that :p

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the link above relates to the tv licence issue, where is the link that mentions the economy??

Re: Dave saves the enconomy
 

so do you believe as flyboy does that black and white license holders are irrelevant .

Re: Dave saves the enconomy
 

I believe black and white licence holders are getting more than enough value for money as it is. I think the black and white licence should be abolished. It will be before long anyway, I reckon, post switchover.

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well yes im with flyboy on this one if he can buy a bentley for three quid im in the queue!

Re: Dave saves the enconomy
 

I dont want the BBC service.

I DO NOT have an option to remove BBC and pay no licence fee.

Thats the problem.

Re: Dave saves the enconomy
 

Cripes, here we go, again ...

The licence fee is not a subscription to the BBC. That's why you can't remove it. The licence fee is the means by which the UK Government has chosen to ensure the UK has a quality TV and radio broadcast system that is not compromised by commercial or political pressures. You benefit from the BBC's existence whether you watch/listen to/browse its content or not.

Re: Dave saves the enconomy
 

Is this the level of understanding that Dave has of economics.

Surely, in real terms that is a cut.

Re: Dave saves the enconomy
 

He's not aiming his comments at economists, he's talking to the world out there. There are some expert Tory-bashers on this forum, but on current standing I don't think you're one of them. ;)

Re: Dave saves the enconomy
 

Lets face it he cannot do any worse than New Labour and there unelected puppet :LOL:

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I thought it was a good idea and shows what a lot of people are thinking in terms of the licence fee. As for the rest of flyboy's comments god the ignore feature is a wonderful thing :). Also i see many people complaining about how the tories are not declaring their policy's well can you blame them i wouldn't either everytime they do and if it's a good one it gets nicked by a certain bunch and then reworded so keep stum till the election dave and then hit em with a few surprises.

Re: Dave saves the enconomy
 

a) Would you care to clarify your accusation re nepotism?

b) I work in a publicy funded organisation, and we have had our budgets frozen (last year, this year, and next year) - why should the BBC (or any other public organisation) be any different (and I am a big fan of the BBC, and happy to pay my licence fee)?

btw, your friend's soundbite is high on buzzwords, low on content - low signal to noise ratio (imho) - is your "friend" a politician or a journalist? ;)

Re: Dave saves the enconomy
 

LOL. Very witty. I thought I would over simplify the post, to help the CONservative supporters understand.

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Err...if you say so.

Re: Dave saves the enconomy
 

Gladly. His mother-in-law Annabel Astor (yes, she of the Astors), gave her bestest buddy Michael Green, the then chairman of Carlton Television, a sly telephone call to get him a job in PR. As a side note of course, he was the one who lost the company the franchise for ITV Digital, losing the company one billion three hundred thousand pounds.

But then his whole "career" has been one long nepotistic run. His entry into the CONservative party itself was arranged for him. Then there's Gideon sorry, George Osborne (why did he have to change his name?). He didn't really get the job because they were in the Bullington Club together, now did he?

And I admire your commitment and dedication, so surely you can see what fee freezing will do to public services such as this.

Re: Dave saves the economy
 

My oh my ... would you like some salt'n'vinegar for your chip?

Re: Dave saves the enconomy
 

do you mean new LABour ? it seems to be fashionable to insert CAPITALS

Re: Dave saves the enconomy
 

Ah, the internet, home of unfounded unprovable rumours, based on a book-plugging article by a New Statesmen reporter in the Indy. Slight problem - he started at Carlton in July 1994, and married his wife in June 1996; but let's not let facts ruin a good scurrilous libel, shall we?

As a side note, Carlton's consortium won the digital franchise, which became OnDigital (launched in 1998), but it later folded due to lack of subscribers.

Do I detect a slight note of bitterness and, perhaps, envy there? If someone made the same comments about someone from the "working class" who was successful in politics, they would be, quite rightly, accused of being "a snob" - I think the same thing is true in reverse - you appear to be judging a person by the circumstances of his birth. The Class War is so last century ;)

What I have found since I moved from the private sector to the publicly-funded sector is that there were ways of getting more for the same - better resource utilisation, using more cost-effective suppliers, and cutting out a lot of manual processing that could be work-flowed through IT systems and process engineering; there were/are so many things done in a certain way because they have always been done in a certain way.

Re: Dave saves the enconomy
 

:clap: :clap:

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I think it's obvious to CF members that DC is an avid member of CF and reads it often.

He obviously read what I posted last week:

http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/34751704-post36.html

and decided to make it an issue. I'm always available as an advisor Dave? get your people to speak to my people

Re: Dave saves the economy
 

Policy Advisor to David Cameron - remember to update your CV ;)

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I like that we can call him Dave, so is he our friend now?

There is also the film, Dave, which was poor but also good at the same time.

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Dear God! If he is taking policy from the Current Affairs Forum we're all doomed :erm:

Re: Dave saves the enconomy
 

Probably writes "Micro$oft" as well.