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Hi guys,

i bought a medion MD8800 2 years ago which came with XP
the specs were pretty decent and i payed £700 for it...


i decided to add another 2 gig of ram and upgrade the gfx and sound card...

my system specs are :
Intel® Pentium® D Dual Core processor 830
3.0 GHz, 2 x 1MB L2 Cache, 800 MHz FSB
Nvidia Geforce 7650 GS 256DDR2 HDMI / DVI
3GB DDR2 SDRAM with 533 MHz
2x Sata Drives 1 = 150gig 7200 and other samsung spinpoint 1tb 7200
Soundcard : Asus Xonar D2X 7.1 Optical Digital High Performance & Fidelity sound card
Does anyone have any idea why vista seems a bit rubbish on this?
and if theres anything i can do to improve the performance
its scoring 4.3.

i dont have any motherboard drivers for vista (but vista auto installs anyway) the motherboard is MS-7204
but when you go on the MSI Motherboard Website there is no such board and the MSI Auto Driver Upgrade Tool does not recognise the board as it is customer made for Medion.

if i have to, i would upgrade my CPU and Mobo but if im going to do that i would be aswell as getting a new pc lol

to round up..
basically i just want to know what you think might be making my system a tad sluggish.

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I wouldn't say 4.3 is too rubbish a score. My Dell XPS Laptop scores a 5.0 on Vista and I am running the following (although can't remember the full details.)

Dual Core Pentium 2.4Ghz
3GB DDR2 RAM
256MB DDR3 Nvidia GForce Graphics Card
320GB HDD

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What are the full results? The final index is based on the lowest of the scores.

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whats dropping the score? its the lowest score that counts

Looks like gfx to me

As far as whats making it sluggish whats running at startup?

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thats the gfx keeping you down

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MSCONFIG = Startup unticked for the moment
so nothing booting up

what im finding weird is.. even to install AVG or any program on it.. it took 15-20 mins to install AVG which is weird.. AVG Free takes what 2 mins on XP to install..

this is whats confusing me :S...

although XP runs great on my machine.. (which i keep forcing myself to stick with)

i really want to be on the OS of today if you get me.. its time for a change..

Graphics card is probably cheap crap..

i originally had a 128 geforce .. i phoned medion and complained they came out and swapped it with a 256 (so i didnt say anything)

but iv just stuck with it if you know what im saying.. i have been restricting myself to adding more to the system just for the sake of vista...

its PCI Express too..

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check your hard drive. Run a full scan disk with bad sector check just in case

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tried a 10,000 RPM Raptor Drive and im currently using a 7200 WD Cavier drive SATA
as the raptor was too noisy for my liking lol...
i put up with it for a year but i find it loud lol

SO im kind of lost with it..

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Its a decent card though as I can play COD4, Mirrors Edge and Crysis pretty well.

Can run Farcry 1 at pretty much maximum.

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It's probably the processor causing low marks. Doesn't seem like it can bench very well. It's an old processor, it's dual core, but not Core2 technology, meaning it's slower and less efficient.

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They are still making Dual core cpus that are not Core2 which are no means old or outdated. The E2 and the E5 range ;)

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It is a Core 2 Duo.

Its a Dell XPS system wich are their top line of systems and cost over £800

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dude you are not the op in this thread he was addressing the op

I was just pointing out that not all dual core pentiums are old the ops is lol

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Pentium D Dual Cores are different than Core 2 Duo's.

Just read up about it, Intel's Pentium D Dual Core's are basically 2 Prescott processors running side by side. The performance out of the two isn't great, they run hot aren't aren't good for overclocking. So this is where I'm guessing the marks are being hit.

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2 prescott cores? the E5200 is half the proccess @45nm over the D 's 90nm does not make them anywhere near the same

The E is also half the power at 65 w over the D @ 130

Speedstep and thermal monitor appears to be missing from the D

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But he has an Intel® Pentium® D Dual Core processor 830, not a Core2 E5200. Unless I'm just getting horribly confused.

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yeah the OPs but I was still pointing out not all cpus named Dual core Pentiums are old or bad

I still think the GFX could be the lowest score possibly on both machines mentioned here

Nvidia Geforce 7650 GS 256DDR2 HDMI / DVI
this is the OP gfx GS means its a crippled GPU and DDR2 memory pee poor imo

All the info we have on Stephens is

256MB DDR3 Nvidia GForce Graphics Card
again ddr3 still old hat and only 256 meg of it . What card is it?

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Oh, okay. Imo, it's either the graphics or the processor.

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no its not the CPU should get 5

http://www.tomshardware.com/charts/c...Index,350.html

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and here is the fat lady singing

http://www.drivermax.com/driver/vist...eo.php?start=6

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Oh, in that case I'm thinking it's also the graphics card. It's only DDR2 and 256MB at that. DDR3 has been on graphics card for a long time now. Isn't the GS version the basic model?

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Anything below a 7800GT was crippled whether it was a GS or a GT.

The 7650GS doesn't even exist, in the sense that it was never a consumer card, most probably made for OEM partners. It's basically a 7600GS with a HDMI port, otherwise its technically identical to a 7600GS with DDR2... pretty poor indeed and most probably the culprit of the lowest score.

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Its an Nvidia GeForce 8600M GT with 256MB of GDDR3 memory

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well Vista will tell you what the lowest score is just have a looksee

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its a Intel Pentium D Processor (which i believe is not actually DUAL CORE it was the fake ones intel got humped for because they were saying they were dual and they are not.)

it has the 2 graphs for the cpu in task manager etc..

and the GFX Card is a Nvidia Geforce 7650 GS HDMI/DVI/VGA
which i believe is a custom card made for medion seen as these are virtually no existant when doing a search for them...

vista appears to all of a sudden be running great.. and im using a dif hard drive.. a Seagate bara. however when playing music and opening like an msn window i get LAG on the sound for a split sec which im confused about...

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No offense but that's tripe, the "D" in "Pentium D" stands for dual, as far as im aware there were never any single core Pentium D's, and infact, going by your first post... if you indeed have the 830 model, then it is dual core.

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The D830 is a real Dual, though the 6-series were also idenified as pentium D and were not dual.

www.medionsupport.com - the Unofficial Medion hangout, we don't bite

I'd suggest getting hold of the latest Intel INF update and slapping that on, just in case Vista has not fully identified the chipset
http://downloadcenter.intel.com/Deta...16023&lang=eng

The chipset is dual channel, so you need to keep the memory in balanced pairs for optimum performance.

You may be able to access an advanced BIOS using F11 instead of F1, and a password of am8888eg (or egh) - not sure if this was still available on the MD8800, one possibilty may be to take the memory down to 400 clock (2:1 divider) and tighten the timings.

It also appears that it may be able to use the Intel Matrix storage manager for RAID/AHCI.
http://downloadcenter.intel.com/filt...4&submit=Go%21

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The 6-series were in fact Pentium 4's, specifically a prescott core.

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I had the D805 and that was dual core I had a D915 that was also dual core. Hyper threading was disabled on all but the EE cpus so they did not have the fake second core as was mentioned earlier

Matt there are no single core Pentium D cpus http://processorfinder.intel.com/list.aspx?ProcFam=2112

There was however the cerleron D

here are your single core skt 775 pIV http://processorfinder.intel.com/Lis...=483&SearchKey=

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For some reason the 6 series number is often prefixed D - such as D640. Not sure if the later generation P4's were actually referred to as Pentium D until the dual cores arrived, but there does seem to be some confusion around the term, possibly just from the use of D as part of the number at many sites, possibly confusion that if S478 was P4, S775 ought to be something else.