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Gigabit Routing Performance Home Routers

Ladies and gentlemen,

I am looking for a home router with a WAN-LAN and LAN-WAN throughput as close to 1Gbps each way as possible.

About the best I've found so far has a throughput of both combined around 570Mbps.

Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated, I'd rather avoid the expense of a commercial Gigabit router if at all possible and I'm really not that up on home hardware.

Cheers.

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Just out of interest, where did you manage to get WAN link at 1Gbps?

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Originally Posted by kpanchev (Post 34754742)

Just out of interest, where did you manage to get WAN link at 1Gbps?

Amsterdam, Netherlands.

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How about this http://www.netgear.co.uk/rangemaxnex...rs_wnr854t.php

Apparently has both 1Gbit LAN and WAN ports so I assume it can pass that much data through

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Originally Posted by Broadbandings (Post 34754744)

Amsterdam, Netherlands.

I'm not clear, do you live in the Netherlands and the public infrastructure supports 1Gbps?

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Sadly not, while it can switch at something like Gigabit it'll cry like a little girl who just had her Barbie decapitated by a drug addled Ken when asked to route at that speed.

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Originally Posted by mischievious (Post 34754749)

I'm not clear, do you live in the Netherlands and the public infrastructure supports 1Gbps?

Soon, and no it supports well above that to some homes but past GigE it starts getting expensive.

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Then what on earth is the point of having the WAN and LAN as Gigabit?

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Here is a link with many to choose from http://www.it247.com/home.html?catid...nge=&fam=&atr=

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Originally Posted by Broadbandings (Post 34754750)

depanding on where you are going to live in Holland afaik the fastest connection you can get is 120mbps with a 10mbps upload (http://www.upc.nl/internet/fiber_power_120/ dutch link) cant find anything yet which is privately obtainable that supports gig connections.

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Originally Posted by Broadbandings (Post 34754740)

BB, by far your best option is to check out
http://www.smallnetbuilder.com/compo...rt/Itemid,189/

it covers more than your low/mid end home/SOHO kit OC ,it happens to be the best source of real data including cpus you will find anywere ,and its about the only place to get any real indepth feedback too.

so no single recomendation from me, as you already know its all about the chipset SOC speeds regarding max throughput per port etc......

the good old build your own is always a good option too ,if you can ballance the costs of parts against the power usage, and the low power micro motherboards are getting cheaper by the day, assuming you can find enough slots and (dual+) ethernet gigE cards to populate to your needs or a good external cheap gigE switch to plug into a single port OC but power useage increases that way.......

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Originally Posted by kpanchev (Post 34754742)

Just out of interest, where did you manage to get WAN link at 1Gbps?

it appears broadbanding is on the move :erm:

but you dont have to assume the WAN port is going to connect directly to some ISP somewere, you can just as easly make your own WAN (wide area network) and mutiport it through any and all ISPs/Co-Location sites that the WAN connects to for your web connections.

bonding was and is again very popular in private WAN circles...

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Originally Posted by BenMcr (Post 34754752)

Then what on earth is the point of having the WAN and LAN as Gigabit?

Ben we have been through this before, remember its all well and good to asume things based on PR and sales information, but as proven by the 11g and its 22 Mbit/s max REAL throughput its the same for most lower/mid range 11n too.

put simply they cut costs by using lower rated/slower cpus cores inside the SOC (SystemOn a Chip) that runs the device and so the units cant sustain the advertised top speeds when all the bells and wistles are turned on and sent to the internal CPU to process etc....it basicly runs out of steam as it were....:dozey:

on many 11n routers you will find there are lots of 10/100 fast ethernet switches and gigE models , the only main difference is the core SOC speed and a gig chipset between the lower and higher models , higher clockspeed is better in the same cpu family just like x86 ,the best cpu for routers oc being PPC but thats for your industral lines as the companies dont make SOHO PPC based routers cheap or not that i know of at least?

infact i was amazed to see that the http://www.additionsdirect.co.uk/rf/...dband%20Router referenced router actually finally hints in the pr at the need for better internal cpu/soc speeds as it states "It features the fastest processor in the D-Link Wireless N range, achieving the best throughput results ever between WAN and LAN networks...."

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Originally Posted by popper (Post 34754810)

Oh no I get all of that I really do

But surely if you having a Gigabit LAN and a Gigabit WAN port - not actually connecting the two with something that can pass data at Gigabit speeds is a load of the proverbial?

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Originally Posted by DocDutch (Post 34754788)

The Amsterdam FTTO network that is in ongoing construction.

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Originally Posted by popper (Post 34754810)

BB, by far your best option is to check out
http://www.smallnetbuilder.com/compo...rt/Itemid,189/

Already checked that out popper before I posted asking. I did love the Linksys unit that does 570Mbit upstream but less than 16Mbit downstream due to a load of security nonsense.

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the good old build your own is always a good option too ,if you can ballance the costs of parts against the power usage, and the low power micro motherboards are getting cheaper by the day, assuming you can find enough slots and (dual+) ethernet gigE cards to populate to your needs or a good external cheap gigE switch to plug into a single port OC but power useage increases that way.......

Yeah I'm thinking that as well. I'm hoping that the SP will give me multiple IP addresses though, as it seems futile to hope anything short of a business router or a multiple PCIE NIC PC will be able to do the job. Multiple addresses and a switch probably easier.

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it appears broadbanding is on the move :erm:

I know, who would ever want to leave the UK? Quality of life is so high here, such low taxes, such great public services, and the people are fantastic, so safe and peaceful even late at night. Why on earth would anyone ever leave?

Feel free to think of me as insane for wanting to leave this wonderful country.

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Originally Posted by popper (Post 34754810)

presumably you are talking about turning a small low powered pc into a router capable of linking lan to wan (lets for now ignore the previous stuff about private wan for simplicity) with Gbit net adapters? I think I am with you.... but sorry if I didn't find the post entirely clear.

In this instance I would agree but you would require a good technical understanding plus you may also find that you ISP may well be relying on the fact that current private HW is slow. This gives them an escape clause, "it's your router".... Having had to deal with a number of ISP's professionally, I am sceptical of them all.....

I hope your experiences in Holland are much better ;)

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Given the described situation, your only option is a custom build. If you are familiar with linux, it should take you a couple of hours to set one, if not, there are plenty of ready-made distros with web interface wizard-like configuration to play with... As for the power consumption, if you can afford a gigabit wan, I don't think that will be a problem...

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Originally Posted by kpanchev (Post 34755607)

Yes, this is pretty much what I thought. I am familiar enough with Linux, it powers the appliances I work on full time, so that's likely the way I'll have to go.

Plenty of options for network cards, be it a single dual port network card or two single ports, and I can just hook the LAN side up to a gigabit switch to provide the port density so that won't be a problem.

As far as affording goes, well, some places aren't like the UK! ;)

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Originally Posted by mischievious (Post 34755530)

This gives them an escape clause, "it's your router".... Having had to deal with a number of ISP's professionally, I am sceptical of them all.....

I hope your experiences in Holland are much better ;)

Oh a quick Iperf between devices on WAN and LAN ports on router soon puts anything like that to bed ;)

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Originally Posted by Broadbandings (Post 34755401)

...snippety snip snip...
I know, who would ever want to leave the UK? Quality of life is so high here, such low taxes, such great public services, and the people are fantastic, so safe and peaceful even late at night. Why on earth would anyone ever leave?

Feel free to think of me as insane for wanting to leave this wonderful country.

If you are going to Holland, the taxes are higher ;)
"- Part of the income from EUR 0 to EUR 17,878: 33.5 %
- Part of the income from EUR 17,878 to EUR 32,127: 42 %
- Part of the income from EUR 32,127 to EUR 54,776: 42 %
- Above that: 52 %."
National Health Insurance is on top of that.

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Surprisingly I know this, and am indifferent ;) you actually see something for the taxes you pay, while here a fair proportion appears to go to people who do not wish to work and/or protest against our way of life.

Cost of living there is substantially lower in many ways which compensates and indirect taxes tend to be lower.

Income Tax is a pointless value in the UK as there are so many other ways that the government puts hands into our pockets.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...centage_of_GDP

Ah btw the health insurance / social security premium is taken into account with the lower brackets of tax, the actual income tax rates are 2.35% and 10.85% for the lower two brackets but this is boosted as the premiums are taken into account and capped to an income of 30,015 euro.

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The Netherlands has partly a progressive tax rate. In the very past the highest income bracket in the Netherlands was 72%, in 1990 the highest income bracket became 60% and in 2001 it became 52%. The brackets now are 2.35%, 10.85%, 42% and 52%. But the first two brackets also contains the Social Security payments (premiums, AOW, ANW and AWBZ), making it effectively 33.5%, 42%, 42% and 52%.

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Originally Posted by Broadbandings (Post 34755758)

Oh a quick Iperf between devices on WAN and LAN ports on router soon puts anything like that to bed ;)

Depends on your ISP I guess:

http://www.redorbit.com/news/technol...d_speed_tests/

They may still find someone/something else to blame. :mad:

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Originally Posted by Broadbandings (Post 34755758)

i was doing some browsing for wireless gigaE and external band B wireless kit and came across this set of boards Broadbandings

the Atheros at 680MHz should be more than able to cope with full gigE, its a shame we cant get these in generic SOHO kit
http://www.mikrotik-store.eu/product...450G--L4-.html

72,80 EUR
excl. 19 % Tax excl. Shipping costsProduct No.: RB/450G
Print product data sheet
Shipping time:immediatly
Mini Router
CPU Atheros AR7161 680MHz
5 x 10/100/1000 Ethernetports
Memory 32MB/256MB
Storage 64 MB
Power Jack 10~28V DC
RouterOS Level4