You can be put in jail for nothing
 

Company: Central and Northwest London National Health Service

Comment: This can happen to you!



I am now in Gordon Mental health Hospital Victria, for no mental health reason
.



During my time inside, I have had the opportunity to "inspect" no less
than four mental institutions, both NHS and private and the strongest
impression I gained was of collossal waste of fuel and energy. These
places are kept at almost searingly hot temperatures, and the climate is
like that of a hot, dry arid landscape. They could cause a global warming
all by themselves, and I get the impression, that while the patients might
well benefit from cooler temperatures, the equatorial climate conditions
are maintained for the benefit of the staff, who mainly hail from the
warmer regions of the world......and, of course, the bill goes to the
taxpayer....



As you would expect, these places are entirely organised for the
convenience of the nurses, who arrogate to themseves the patients’ quiet
rooms and computers, even locking them out of chapels and sanctuaries
designated for their use. At South Kensington the daily papers always
arrived in the middle of the night, presumably after the staff had
finished with them. I, myself am forcibly and probably illegally sedated,
not for my own good but to knock me out so that the nurses do not have to
check on me.



The staff put the patients off speaking to me by telling them I have
filthy habits, but the ones I have spoken to tell me they are being robbed
blind by the support staff that are supposed to be there to help them with
shopping etc. Apparently the way to ensure a patient’s complaints will be
disbeleived is to diagnose him or her as a paranoid schizophrenic .



And here’s a name for you, people: [Mod Edit (Rob M)], psychiatric consultant.
Be afraid, be very afraid.



THE NEW MENTAL HEALTH ACT 2007

Is a real CATCH 22. It seems that the very fact that you have been
committed to a mental institution is regarded as good reason for keeping
you there, since you are an obviously vulnerable person. Vulnerable, that
is, to people who want to commit you to a mental institution.



I understand, from reading the hospital Daily Mail, that certain members
of the House of Lords get paid vast sums of money for making sure acts
like this one are passed without difficulty.

PS: The scandal of male patients on female wards is as nothing to the
scandal of male nurses on female wards.

Re: You can be put in jail for nothing
 

Ah well at least they're letting you use the internet.

Oh dear, you were doing so well up until that point.

Bit misleading this though. You're talking about being detained under the Mental Health Act, which is different from being jailed.

Re: You can be put in jail for nothing
 

I'm sure you'll get plenty of assistance from posters on all the other boards you've posted exactly the same post on as well.....

I've taken the liberty of removing the name of the individual that you named in order to avoid any unnecessary legal complications arising from your allegations.

Re: You can be put in jail for nothing
 

And we are to take you seriously from a first post?

Russ, me thinks she's implying he is reading internal daily mail rather than the paper that I love :erm:

I'm going back to bed as my mental health needs re-evaluating :rolleyes:

Re: You can be put in jail for nothing
 

WOW, certifiable spam for once :D ;) :p:

Re: You can be put in jail for nothing
 

Ah, perhaps a mental hospital is the right place, after all.

There was something about the MHA 2007 that annoyed me at the time, however.

Re: You can be put in jail for nothing
 

According to the website...

http://www.nhs.uk/ServiceDirectories...x?id=RV346&v=0

This might be a legitimate call for help.

Re: You can be put in jail for nothing
 

In which case there are better place to post that request than on websites about UK Cable companies.

Re: You can be put in jail for nothing
 

.....or any of the other sites this has been posted on.....

Re: You can be put in jail for nothing
 

Perhaps, but someone in such an institution might not be thinking terribly rationally.

Who can blame a person in a burning house running around shouting "fire" instead of taking the time to find the phone and dial 999?

Re: You can be put in jail for nothing
 

If someone has enough rationale to post on the internet then I'd say they also have enough to contact a major media outlet such as a national newspaper or news station.

Re: You can be put in jail for nothing
 

Since the suggestion here is that this is forum spam, perhaps they aleady have and have been discounted.

I understand that there are those that see conspiracies everywhere they look, however the trend in this forum seems to be any issue raised concerning "potential" illegal activities undergone by any official esp. state run organisations is instantly treated with suspicion, mistrust and high levels of cynicism before any proof or lack of has been established. As a culture it seems innocent until proven guilty is no longer the quorum.

I myself am split on this until some evidence is shown and opinion based upon opinion doesn't help anyone.

Still, limited access sounds a lot like supervised access and signing up for chat rooms, forums and posting large posts seems unlikley. Then again, often human nature helps here, a model prisoner/patient will be given far greater leniency that other patients..... like I said so far split

Re: You can be put in jail for nothing
 

Excuse me sir, your surname wouldn't be Littlejohn would it.?

Where's Chaos23 when you need him, he'd love this.:)

Re: You can be put in jail for nothing
 

Actually the post is not exactly the same. You will see that the name of the hospital has changed, The hospital computer has been hacked so that I cannot get onto Myspace any more, and this is my way of letting people know where I am.

Re: You can be put in jail for nothing
 

So why haven't you contacted a media outlet?

Re: You can be put in jail for nothing
 

I have no money, no writng paper, envelopes, no stamps and no privacy. And I am feeling terriblle all thetime.

Re: You can be put in jail for nothing
 

So why didn't you contact a media outlet instead of a Cable website?

Re: You can be put in jail for nothing
 

I have no money, no writing materials and no privacy,and I am feeling desperate all the time

Re: You can be put in jail for nothing
 

Sorry to keep asking the same question but you seem to be dodging it all the time.

You were able to post on a Cable website. Why did you do that instead of emailing someone or posting a message at a news outlet instead?

Re: You can be put in jail for nothing
 

Indeed, such as the Daily Mail..

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Hmm, just in case anyone is wondering, his ip address does trace to a Mental Health Trust ..........

Re: You can be put in jail for nothing
 

I'd already checked that - but I'm still curious as to why if the situation is as bad as is being made out, why haven't any of the major news outlets picked up on it?

The OP has been banned from posting about this on the BBC noticeboards (I've been doing a little digging) and you'd think the Beeb of all people would take an interest.

Re: You can be put in jail for nothing
 

Without knowing a full history there's no way anyone else can say that this person does/doesn't deserve the treatment... If they've got internet access this forum isn;t going to do much good and they should be using the connection to search for who can help (perhaps the health minister, MP, or even ask the local PCT for a review)...

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They have:
http://www.spn.org.uk/index.php?id=1016
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/223343.stm
http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/20...ntalhealth.nhs
http://www.popan.org.uk/policy/polic..._inquiries.htm
http://news.bbhttp://www.spn.org.uk/...lth/260422.stm
http://www.independent.co.uk/life-st...er-622078.html

etc....

Re: You can be put in jail for nothing
 

From reading his myspace, I'd say it stands a chance he does. His blog posts from before he was put in a mental health hospital just scream paranoid schizophrenia. Apparently all florists are home to MI5 informants that are tracking him and telling him to commit suicide.

Re: You can be put in jail for nothing
 

Wow you have so much time on your hands (although those links have nothing to do with the OP's particular case).

So I think the OP might be better off channelling his time in to pursuing those avenues.

Re: You can be put in jail for nothing
 

Twas a 2 minute google :)possibly only because it's another scandal waiting to be unearthed? Or maybe not, who knows? :shrug:

Re: You can be put in jail for nothing
 

Well the OP isn't going unearth anything by posting it on some discussion boards. Perhaps you could direct him towards some handy media outlets instead.

Re: You can be put in jail for nothing
 

The people moderating the noticeboards probably do not think along those lines, i.e they are not the people doing the journalism?

Re: You can be put in jail for nothing
 

The Beeb's hacks scour the messageboards a lot, often a good source for stories from 'the man on the street'.

Re: You can be put in jail for nothing
 

tell me about it! Especially on the beeb's on Have Your Say boards. I often get phoned after posting to see if I would like to be on a show, or just be quoted. I'll settle for the latter! :blush:



As for the original topic, one of my bestest mates is a mental health nurse, and left London as it was a very frustrating place to work. I'm sure it's not just London, but still. I am forever grateful that I've had my doc since I was very young, and he promised never to sign me over for ECT even though my mum had it (but she can't remember having it - one of the side effects) and it worked wonders. There's loads she can't remember actually... I'm really sorry the OP is having such a horrid time of it, but everyone believes the medical profession knows best and never question it. Personally, I would love to argue the case of why can't fat people have the pill - but NICE is a law unto itself, unfortunately. :(

Re: You can be put in jail for nothing
 

Is there any reason for keeping this thread open? It's not exactly a laughing matter is it?

Re: You can be put in jail for nothing
 

I concur with Danielf. Which for a second there thought was Jerrek!!! Ban button almost got hit.

My line of work has dealings with the mental health sector and it is a sensitive subject which really shouldn't be put into the public spot light like this.

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