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I was shock when i started to read this story but even more so when i descoved the so Called "teacher" had kept her job i was horrified.this should be a sackable offence god only Knows what long term harm this event has done to the girl.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...m-naughty.html

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One questions whether the school was set up for the needs of an autistic student...having googled it as far as I can see it is not a special needs school as such.

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Being a father of an autistic lad, I can tell you that Special Schools are now rare... New Labour decided to "integerate" them into mainstream schools but forgot to give enough training to teachers... and it's even worse at Secondary level where pupils change teachers several times a day.

The physical and mental effects of autism are so varied that it is very difficult to know how to deal with each affected person without a LOT of training and experience.

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What an utterly nasty piece of work she sounds like :grind:

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I'm aware of what new Labour and old Conservatives did to special needs education..and I agree entirely that the end result is less than happy plus that autistic children do need specialised training.Which is why I think this particular story should have been about the iniquities of the facilities available for such children not a tale that bashes individual schools/teachers without adequate training.:rolleyes:

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New Labour running the education system on the cheap and cocking it up in the process? Quelle suprise..

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It may surprise many of you but this doesn't surprise me in the slightest. I know of many children with autism and other special needs who, at one time or another, have been dumped in ordinary school classrooms without the support they need to be able to cope in such environments. The reasons for this are often a combination of lack of funding/resources provided by the LEA and sometimes I have to say, a refusal of parents to accept their children's problems and consider special units or schools better able to address those needs. HMG calls it 'inclusion' but as is the case with 'care in the community', the success of such schemes depends on the right support being in place and all too often it just isn't and the poor children involved are left high and dry!

In these days when you can be arrested for uttering an offensive word, I must say I find it hard to understand how the 'teacher' concerned kept her job. In stark contrast to those caring professionals who dedicate their careers to looking after special needs children, she is an utter disgrace to her profession!

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she should be jailed for this so she knows what its like unforgivable(ok now I am being extreme but it would teach her a lesson)

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I have yet to see a single comment that specifies what should have been done instead.

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she should not have been left alone

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She wasn't.

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She should have been taken out of the classroom and allowed/assisted to calm down - not rocket science!

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That isn't how the child would have seen it. You're in a room alone, the door won't open, you're alone. Not nice.

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I'm sure professionally trained staff would have known what to do. This individual clearly didn't.

Perhaps the lesson to be learnt here is for teaching assistants to be properly trained if they're expected to handle children with special requirements and considerations. I'd have thought it would have been common sense that isolating a small child in a room was a definite NO NO. :mad:

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She was allowed to calm down without disrupting the rest of the class and how long should someone wait for that to happen, an hour, all day, all week?

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Unpleasant and distressing for a normal child - how much moreso for an autistic one?

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You clearly have no concept of special needs education! If the school didn't have a strategy for dealing with such eventualites then clearly it was also negligent. There are policies and procedures for dealing with children like these - shutting them in rooms all on their own isn't one of them!

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That's fair enough I suppose. If a child with recognised learning difficulties is causing a problem for the class, put him/her in a room on their own. Doesn't matter if the child gets scared out of their mind, as long as the rest of the class isn't disrupted.

:rolleyes:

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I've yet to see from anyone(experienced or not), what should have been done.

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nice level of compassion there you show ... not

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Have someone trained in specialised care for autistic children to hand, perhaps?

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come on then inform us

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I just told you what should have been done!

Perhaps you're the sort of person who likes to think that autism is just another of those labels used as an excuse for bad behaviour that needs to be punished...

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She wasn't put in the room for behaving in a calm manner.

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That's kind of what I was alluding to..;) Sometimes I just assume people know what I mean. :D:D

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Ok I'm sorry if I'm being a bit slow today but you're going to have to spell your point out for me.

Everyone else here can see the inappropriateness of what the assistant did, the tribunal agrees too, so I think you need to back up your stance on this.

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Nice idea but not a reality in many cases. Still surely it doesn't require much common sense to appreciate how a child such as this might react and how to cope with it.

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I think we should refrain from using irony or sarcasm in this thread, ;) because message through getting is not the. :rolleyes:

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No, you didn't. You added 3 mins later(at the same time as I was writing mine, so how could I have read it:rolleyes:) to your post that there must be a policy but didn't say what that policy was or should be.

So you're saying that everybody's education should be allowed to be totally screwed up because someone else has a reason/excuse?

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It is claimed that she was upset as a result of being in a room with a view of the corridor, whereas she was put in the room because she was upset.

Being disruptive came before being put in the room.

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That's because the policy should be appropriate for the CHILD! In all my years I have never heard of anyone shutting a distressed autistic child in a room on their own.

Autism is a condition with a very broad range of expression - the staff member clearly had no idea how to cope with the child she was responsible for.

NO! I'm saying that the school should have had 'APPROPRIATE' measures in place to cope with what happened without disrupting the entire school. Those measures should not have included shutting her in a room!

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He really, obviously was not saying that. If you're genuinely interested in this issue, rather than just trying to start a fight, how about trying to engage with and understand other people's posts rather than wilfully parodying and distorting them?

Really, stop twisting everything. Being upset or not upset is not a binary state. Clearly, the classroom assistant's attempt to give her 'time out' made her existing agitation worse.

Do you have even the mildest clue of what being autistic means? Are you arguing over this because you have some level of expertise or are you just looking for an argument?

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:banghead:

An example. more than 25 years ago in junior school I had trouble understanding franctions. I mean REAL trouble, I could not get my head around them. Everyone else in the class could but not me. After several attempts, the teacher gave up.

When my parents could see I was making no progress they contacted the school to ask the teacher what was happening. Her response "Well, he did fall behind and we had to move on". My parents went ape.

Rather than contact them to suggest some possible out-of-hours schooling or or other methods, she simply brushed me aside.

To this day I still have trouble with fractions. I genuinely believe if she had actually tried instead of making life easier for herself, I'd have a better understanding. She couldn't even be bothered to offer a suggestion. She didn't even see fit to contact my parents, she was happy to brush me out of the way.

Back to this story. The teaching assistant clearly has no understanding of how to deal with children. This indicates to me she should not be in charge of them. It's nobody's fault but her own. She could have requested assistance or even training as soon as she knew of the girl's condition.

There are some really good teaching staff out there but truly there are some abysmal ones.

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I don't believe anyone has said that. IMO There was nothing wrong in taking this child out of the classroom. What is wrong is putting an upset child in a room on her own. Why the teaching assistant didn't just sit quietly with the child outside the classroom until she calmed down is what I can't understand.

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obviously you have no experience in this subject . A friend of mine has twin girls who are autistic they are great kids but they are a hand ful and you need to take you time and care and be understanding. Another friend of mine has a boy who is quite severely autistic and it is very frustrating to try and get through to him. You are showing no compassion and definately no understanding on this matter and therefore your views imo are irrelevent

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Apparently in all your years you haven't heard of any alternative as you haven't given that alternative.

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As I suspected, you're not really interested in the welfare of this little girl, or others like her, she's just an excuse for you to flame other people on a forum.

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My problem is not so much with the way the child behaved but the unfair criticism of the teaching assistant.

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:banghead: The reason being that I don't know the girl! Something as simple as a walk around the playground or another acitivity may have done the trick! That's what the assistant and school should have known far better than me.

I have a feeling I know rather more about SEN provision than you ever will.

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And you think that criticism is unfair just because nobody in this thread has explained to you how autistic children should be managed when their behaviour becomes difficult?

How lazy are you planning to be today? If you really gave a smeg you could have googled an encyclopaedia's worth of information by now. The information is out there, and teachers and assistants who know they have an autistic child in their classroom *should* have taken the time to find it and action it.

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If schools have children with special needs then they should have staff trained in looking after children with special needs seems simple to me. Then if anything like this happens the child can be removed from the lesson and to the trained staff or if possible the trained staff can come to them. I see no reason why all staff can not be given some training after all they have plenty of teacher training days it seems rediculas to me that they do not cover this

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For obvious reasons getting good staff in the SEN arena is very difficult. It's hard enough ensuring there are enough specialist teachers in special schools and units let alone ensuring that those children in ordinary schools have specially trained staff to assist them. Sad but true. As usual, funding is the major problem.

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I am not saying they need to be fully trained but some training would go a long way

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May have done the trick? Then placing her in a room may have also done the trick.

If it was something obvious that was upsetting her, it would have been easier to resolve the situation. But it wasn't something obvious and probably only became known long after the event.

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It clearly didn't and the tribunal agreed. You can't argue with facts.

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So provide the links that I have been indeed searching for, but without any luck so far.

Her mother is a supply teacher, so should she have to undergo a week's training for each of the many potential situations prior to teaching in a particular school?

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Ever heard the expression "the road to hell is paved with good intentions"?

Who is talking about 'potential situations'?

A child with special needs was in the class. She had no idea how to deal with special needs. End of.

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As the saying goes, hindsight is a wonderful thing. I was pointing out that the alternative suggestion may or may not of worked and in that case placing her in a room to calm down was as valid idea at that time as any other so far presented.

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But they are a large number(ever increasing) of different defined special needs categories all with various levels and different behaviour. How can someone be expected to be trained to cope in all situations. Especially where there was no obvious trigger for the girl's behaviour.

Is there somewhere an article where the mother says what the teaching assistant should have done? Apart from the girl being taught at home.

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I find it disturbing that you think abandoning an upset child in a room by themselves is an acceptable way of dealing with this situation.

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If someone feels they cannot cope with training then you really have to question whether or not they're up to the job.

You don't need to be an expert or have any special training to know this course of action was entirely wrong.

I wonder if the assistant have children of her own, in particular autistic children.

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FGS I told you that the way to deal with each child will be different! That wasn't simple enough for you so I gave you a suggestion. Shutting her in the room DIDN'T work did IT and in my experience would and should never be tried in such circumstances. Since they were responsible for her they should have known what works for her and most of all what doesn't! That's the sort of dialogue the school/staff member should have had with the parents and the educational psychologists who deemed that her placement was appropriate.

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Lots of people have said what happened was wrong but nobody(not even her mother as far as I can see) has said what would have 100% worked in that situation.

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change the record I do not see you coming up with any ideas and to be honest you are clueless on this subject

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I have first hand experience of several special schools and special infant units which successfully managed all sorts of children and behaviour WITHOUT shutting them in rooms all on their own. By the very fact that this girl is in a mainstream school her autism must be relatively mild therefore I can see no reason why the action they took was ever considered to be an appropriate response.

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But then again I don't claim to have any ideas on how to have dealt with the situation or else I would have given them.

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then why are you participating you are simply trying to stir up trouble

Do you have kids?

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and that's why you're not an SEN teacher/assistant. She on the other hand was supposed to be and should've have had some idea of what to do short of shutting the child in a room!

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I feel that the teaching assistant is being unfairly criticised with no 100% working alternative solution being provided by people as to what they themselves would/should have done.

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So to train to become a SEN teacher/assistant in the first place you have to already have all the knowledge before you train? New concept in training I presume, only learning what you already know.

No, she wasn't supposed to know as it's not an SEN school.

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I know that - but the child must have had an SEN statement or assessment in order to get extra help in the form of that staff member. The purpose of that would be to set out her needs and difficulties for the school/staff member then to properly address.

You keep banging on about a 100% working alternative but there isn't one. There can only be an approach which ensures that a distressed child in such circumstances is treated sensitively and appropriately. Shutting her in a room was neither and as I've said (more than once now) has never been considered a proper approach in any SEN setting I've been in. It really doesn't require much in the way of special training to know that!

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I personally do not think that you need special training to realise that putting a distressed child in a tiny room alone (one which she can't get out from )is only going to make the child more distressed. It's a bit like me putting my4 year old in the cupboard under the stairs or in the garden shed if she is being naughty.

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is that a no to having kids? the teaching assistant only has to say sorry its not like she lost her job. If you had kids you would have a better more balanced empathy with this subject. If someone does anything to your child who you have put in a position of trust causes your child this amount of distress you would walk over hot coals to deal with it. I feel that a little bit of training would have totally avoided this situation no distressed child no chastising of staff just a healthy learning enviroment

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From The National Autistic Society website.

Other than that, no guidance for what the teaching assistant(or anybody else) should do in that situation.

The child was distressed beforehand, any action taken was in order to try and calm the child down(ie time out, quiet room).

If there is no 100% correct answer, why is the teaching assistant supposed to have come up with one herself.

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Well neither does it say to hold a gun to the child's head but you know what? I think common sense tells us that wouldn't work.

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It doesn't say that you shouldn't put them in a room either. But it does suggest time out and a quiet room, both of which happened.

It also indicates that even those with training/experience can have problems knowing what to do.

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Alone? In a small room which to the child would seem like was locked?

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What action may be appropriate for any given autistic child is not a matter for the NAS website but for the various 'professionals' involved in the specific case who are responsible for the child's wellbeing and whose job it is to find out what he/she needs and responds to.

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So she should been allowed to run around the school or even outside? It wasn't cupboard size. Her bedroom might be smaller than that room.

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Many clinical psychologists would recommend 'time out', which can involve shutting the child in a room, perhaps their bedroom, but definitely not under the stairs, and securing the door so they can't get out. If this technique is used it is for extreme sitations only, where the child has lost control of his/her temper completely, and then you use it for a very limited time. The standard formula is one minute per year of the child's life. The approach has been popularised in recent years by Dr Tania Byron, who has done several series of programmes for BBC Three. 'Supernanny' Jo Frost also recommends it.

The point, however, is that this girl has special educational needs and it cannot be assumed that techniques on 'normal' children will work. Often, they won't. The fact that the teaching assistant shut the girl in the first aid room, held the door shut and kept her there for what she estimates to be 5 minutes, suggests that she was applying a standard 'time out' approach. The judge accepts she acted in good faith because she was trying to use a technique designed to calm down severely agitated children, and was not trying to harm the child or simply vent her own frustration.

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Her bedroom might be palacial. :erm:

Her bedroom would be more comforting and consoling than a typical sparsely furnished medical room.

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As I've just described above, time out in a quiet room can be effective, but for 'normal' children. Autistic children's brains are wired differently; they see the world differently and they interpret events differently. while the teaching assistant has apparently had years of experience with this girl, she is sorely lacking in training in what to do. Something the judge has roundly criticised the school for.

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It's not the size of the room which matters it's the fact that she was shut in it alone whilst in a distressed state. Not exactly a glowing example of a caring educational establishment that!... If it's true that the woman in question had years of experience with the child I find it even harder to understand and accept why she did what she did.

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Well common sense (currently some peoples' Holy Grail in this thread) says I can't say what would have worked as, like the teaching assistant I have no experience on autistic children. But as a parent (perhaps my advantage over you here?) I do know what scares children.

The room she was in was 16 by 7 feet, had no windows and was sparsely decorated. I suspect her own bedroom (which I'm sure she'd have been used to having spent lots of time in it) would look different.

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The NAS website also says that there is no correct solution for any given child and as the cause of the child's upset was not obvious how could anyone(even her own parents) be sure what to do in that situation.

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I don't think you've been trying very hard.

http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en...c+tantrum&meta=

What's her mother's career got to do with it? The girl's class teacher, and her teaching assistant, are not supply teachers. They deal with the same stuff every day and so should be appropriately trained.

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I've already told you that!! That's where the experience with the child and caring comes into the equation. What sort of caring response is shutting a distressed child in a room?

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But had a window of sorts(ie a hatch) looking on to the corridor.
The NAS website says
ie sparsely decorated

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A room without windows, long and narrow? Seems like a prison cell to me.

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The National Autistic Society suggest time out and quiet room and that is what happened.
As I pointed out, her parents may not have been able to deal with that situation, so how is a teaching assistant supposed to.

There is nothing on the NAS teacher guidance page about not putting someone in a room. From the info it seems the teaching assistant may have tried things that may have worked, but nothing on the page says that it wouldn't have worked no matter what the circumstances and shouldn't even be tried and yet she is being hounded for it.

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Yet earlier you were quick to point out that NAS say what works for one child may not work for another. How much ducking and weaving are you going to do before you simply accept you're arguing for the sake of arguing without actually having a clue what you're talking about?

Total and utter cack. Her parents will be perfectly well able to deal with the situation, because she is seven years old and she is their daughter, whom they know very well. If you're going to 'point out' such things, you need specific evidence. And you don't have any.

The teaching assistant, while she may not have seven years' experience, still has plenty - at least several months' - and should at the very least been aware of her own shortcomings and able to show some evidence that she had communicated them to the school in order to get appropriate training.

She is not being 'hounded'. She has appeared before a formal tribunal and a *judge* has criticised what happened. This is the aspect you seem most keen to ignore. She isn't simply being persecuted here.

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There was no single correct response(even according to experts), yet everybody seems to say the the teaching assistant should have had one.

Her strategy may have worked at the time, it didn't, not even the experts could have predicted that with anything near 100% certainty, so why is she being held to a higher(and impossible) standard.

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Since when has a room 16ft by 7ft been classed as tiny ??

My daughter would kill for a bedroom that "tiny".

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There is no single correct response for all autistic children. There is a correct response for an individual autistic child. The school has been failing this child because appropriately trained staff would have been in a position to work out a strategy for her.

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It seems even for an individual autistic child there is no single strategy that works.

NAS website:-

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Are you wilfully misunderstanding this stuff? :confused:

Different child, same situation ... approach may not work
Same child, different situation ... approach may not work
Same child, same situation ...

Go on, fill in the blanks.

Even if all the above is true, the keyword here is may not work. There is nothing to suggest that this girl's case is so difficult that consistent approaches could not be developed for her. The fact that the *judge* - a character you have seen fit to all but ignore so far - criticised the school shows that the school was doing less than it should have in this regard.

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:tu:

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nail,head,hit.:tu:

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So to identify the correct strategy would mean the identifying the situation(which may not have arisen before). As the cause of the upset would not have been easily identified(ie thinking that she would be in trouble for not doing her homework), how could anyone have been sure what to do in that unidentified situation.

Look at the Autistic Society webpage. What does it say she should have done that she didn't in fact do, apart from trying to get an explanation from the girl, which she may have tried to do but failed because the child is autistic.

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Let me ask you a question instead. Why has the judge criticised the school's approach to managing this girl?

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The function of the special educational needs and disability(and others) tribunal is to criticise without facts getting in the way.

Did he(or anybody else for that matter) actually point out the correct approach? Until they do, they cannot criticise the approach taken.

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Answer the question, please. Why has the judge criticised the school's approach to managing this girl?

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Inclusion is a good thing sometimes.Like the Downs syndrome child we had in school.I don't think he got as much out of the process as he had to leave in year 10 but I know that those who did gain from the experience were his classmates who learned to respect others who were different and perhaps needed other considerations in the classroom.

They have gone out into the wider world and hopefully will have the patience to deal with others whom are physically or mentally challenged..and be better people for it.

However inclusion WILL not work for all and to place a vulnerable autistic child in a place where there are no properly qualified staff with even the smallest glimmering of understanding is a supreme failure on everyone's part who decides that in such a case.

I think the parents should be suing the local authorities as well for not providing enough services for autistic children.

After all there are very few schools for them and this one is about to close.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/h...cs/7930346.stm

Even Parliament failed to give full support to an autism bill last month watering down what was originally proposed.

So yes this woman did a terrible thing BUT she was hardly given the training or the full support to be able to deal with the child..and I'd like to remind people that LSAs get very little respect,support or pay for what they do do.Some of them are excellent and help a good many children to raise and keep up their literacy and numeracy skills and provide support for harassed teaching staff having to deal with severe behavioural problems.

There are degrees of autism and some can function fairly well provided they are in a caring environment and with staff who have been trained.

I'm wondering just how much support was promised by the school to her parents and how much it amounted to in reality.

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... which is a basic logical fallacy. Nil points, no cigar. I can't see much point in continuing this.

At least the girl and her parents got satisfaction from the process and can look forward to some improvements.

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Which will be underfunded and at a very basic level...:(

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its not the teachers fault, if she wasnt trained to deal with autistic children then she or the child should be removed from the classroom, and some of the comments in this thread are extremely ott, you would think the child had been murdered!

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so you would not mind if a teacher seriously distressed your child then?

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The child was already distressed.

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The child, by law, has to be there. The teaching assistant does not. I think perhaps the wrong one was removed from that class.

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yeah and what happened made the child worse

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But even the experts indicate that there was no way of predicting that.

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These teachers and helpers had no training so they had no chance. The schooling system in the country sucks

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I had a friend who I went to school with who had a younger brother who suffered from autism. Their parents sent the older lad to my school, but didn't see the school fit enough for the younger brother to attend. It wasn't equipped to deal with special needs, even though it claimed it was, plus bullying was a huge factor, as it was particularly bad in this school.

regardless of whether that school did or did not have sufficient resources to treat special needs, they should never have resorted to 'shutting them in a tiny room'. The teacher should have been sacked and the school reviewed.

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thats my point!:tu:

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It's going to suck even more with teacher training down to 6 months.