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Two PC's via Netgear router?
Got one of the new Virgin router's yesterday and connected it up via RJ45 to the modem and my PC. No issues and running fine, however, as soon as I connect another PC to the router the Internet on both machines slows down or stops completely.
Both machines are running XP and both are getting IP addresses. If you take one of the PC's off, the other then runs normally, connect it up again and both slow down or fail to get on the Internet. I am using two RJ45 cables and it doesn't matter which machine I disconnect the other will run fine, connect the other up and no joy. Anyone any ideas??? Both firewalls on both machine are off and so is ICS. Cheers :) |
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the modem is connected to the wan port?
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sorry to but into your thread Johny, but i,m also having a few issues with slow speeds through the vm supplied router WNR2000, i phoned netgear today and they said to try reducing the mtu value to 1400 in the wan set up, and to try disabling the spi firewall, then power cycle the router.
I dont know if it will help but it cant hurt to try, i would have thought that reducing the mtu to 1400 would slow things down though, but willing to give it a go. for me both ps3 and xbox 360 are running very slow through the router, as is the lappy and pc also. as soon as i go through the modem alone, its back to full speed |
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Hi, yes its defo connected to the WAN port. Spent most of the day yesterday on the phone to Virgin's India helpdesk, that was a complete waste of time.
Are the MTU settings somewhere in the Router config pages? I'll wait for you pabscars and see if you manage tp sort it. I was wondering how the router aportions bandwidth per PC, is it 50\50? |
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Hi you could try setting both the NIC's to full duplex and see what happens as sometimes when set to auto detect they might change to half duplex when other traffic is detected on the lan also if it has duplex settings on the router try that as well.
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The mtu value is in the WAN settings in the router config pages, these are accessed by typing in 192.168.1.1 into your address bar of your pc, then you will be prompted to enter your user name and password, which unless youve changed them should be admin and password. then if you look down the left hand side you should see a box saying WAN setup, click on that then try playing with your mtu value, mines now 1400 but default is 1500. Once youve changed the mtu value you will need to click the box at the bottom of the screen which says APPLY. I,m not too sure how the router aportions bandwidth but the qos settings on mine are off, (maybe yours are on?) again these can be accessed the same way and are at the very bottom left hand side of the router config pages. spi firewall is also off on mine, dont be too scared at having a play, i just make note of any changes, that way if things dont improve you can put them back to the original settings. I dont know if this will help you in anyway but it may help someone. However I do have another problem. ive made the mistake of settings up the new router using the same name and password (derrrrr) as my old netgear router, and when i check the vm wireless manager settings on the laptop its still says i,m connected via my old router (now disconnected) so it obviously cant be. i think what is happening now is the router is connecting twice to the wireless laptop, once via vm wireless manager and once via the newly downloaded software disk that came with the 50 meg upgrade. So my question is how can I sort this out, as the current download speeds are shocking through the wireless laptop and pc but now rapid through the wired consoles. ---------- Post added at 09:29 ---------- Previous post was at 09:26 ---------- Quote:
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If that was the case pabscars then only one computer would work as no two computers can have the same ip and which ever one has that ip 1st will work while the other one will not work and give error message.
---------- Post added at 11:44 ---------- Previous post was at 11:41 ---------- What is your connection speed i.e download speed 2Mb 8Mb 10Mb 20Mb? |
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I had 50 MB installed saturday just gone
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from the ps3 it indicates at times well over 50 meg down and 1.5MB up, its hard to quantify what speed i,m getting wirelessly because it varies but roughly between 4 to 10 meg down and 1.5 up. why i open the vm wireless manager its says i,m still connected to my old WGR614v9 router, which of course it cant be as i,m on the new WNR2000. So i was wondering if this was the issue with slow speeds on both wireless devices. also when I clicked on and opened the settings for the little wireless N dongle thingy supplied by vm, you can scan to see what networks are in range, and it shows what wireless channel you and your neighbours are on, so i changed mine to channel 2, so as not to clash with anyone (was on 11, same as a neighbour), yet on the same page it says i,m connected via 2 channels? eg 2 and 10. Changing the channel made no difference. Ive had a drop on the pc speed because a friend downloaded a lot of antivirus, malware scanning stuff, so i can appreciate a drop in performance for that, but the laptop had always downloaded at full speed before the new router was installed. This is what drew my attention in the first place |
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Cheers, I'll have a go tonight. Has it improved your performance significantly?
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before 50% took 10 mins after 50% took 2 mins so thats a fairlt big increase in throughput |
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Well, had a go last night and still no resolution. Adjusted the MTU settings and the NIC settings, still nothing. This is one fecked up problem as there seems to be little info around regarding this issue. Ultimately it has to be to do with the way the router uses bandwidth management within the LAN. I even tried this freebie software that purports to look after your LAN by optimizing your router settings, pish it was. As a last resort I got on the phone to Virgin again. Once more they hadn't a clue, however, they did say they'd issue me with a new router if the problem persists.
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I,m on the 50 meg package and the new router comes with full support from netgear themselves, not vm. If you suspect it is a netgear router issue, then i suggest you contact them directly. However if you have WGR614 version 9 router, this has tweaked firmware by vm so maybe netgear wont support it. Did you answer my question regarding are both computers trying to use the same ip address. ---------- Post added at 13:25 ---------- Previous post was at 13:17 ---------- Quote:
What colour ethernet cable have you got going from the router to the modem, it should be the yellow one from the modem to the router, then the blue one from the router to your pc's. The reason i ask is the yellow one is wired differently inside, and i think is called a crossover cable, where as the blue one is a normal standard ethernet cable with the wiring being identical at both ends, I dont know if you were aware of this. |
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Hmm, interesting! I have the standard router from VM which come with the XL package, I think the last digits are something like 6 v 4??? Both PC's get different IP's within the alocated range, so no issue there. But the cable colours, you may have something there???
I have the yellow which came with the box for the modem/router, however, I'm using another yellow and a long red cable to the PC's (they were cables I had lying around) That might be something to do with it. I'll try and use some grey one's also lying around and see if it makes a difference. |
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In other news i have had problems with PS3 on COD, joining parties mainly, i removed the router last night and directly connected with no problems at all. I think i might power up my old Linksys router later as the Netgear doesn't seem to be working 100%. |
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initially i had loads of problems with the connection through the vm supplied but now its absoluteley spot on, as i did the port forwarding (not triggering), assigned ip addresses to all appliances, opened nat and lowered mtu to 1400 on the router and dissabled the spi firewall. downloads always take less than 10 mins, and the gameplay online is absoluteley fantastic. I played all night last night on cod5 and kicked butt all night, whereas before the connection on the ps3 was almost unplayable on cod5. Initially i did what you did and tried it directly through the modem, and the difference was staggering, so i knew the router was the problem, thankfully thats set up now, and working a dream, and the connection on the ps3 is better than my xbox. |
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How did you get on southwell, I forgot to mention, what port numbers did you use for the ps3 |
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I didn't go into a party last night so i am unsure how that part is, i only got 3 bars but it did drop to 2 and start lagging, i might try direct connecting and then plug the router in to do a proper comparison. Cheers |
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That doesnt sound too good, if you can try to find out what port numbers you used + i will let you know the ones i was given by netgear, there was 5 or 6 if i remember right maybe more.
only diff is i didnt use port forward to configure mine i did it myself. back on topic, ive not heard anything back from the original poster so one can only pressume all is ok now. |
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Heres a strange one. 4 bars connection for the last two nights, as soon as i enter or host a party i drop to 3 bars, coincidence? I'm not so sure...
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Started getting really laggy at one point, and i noticed the router wireless light blinking dead regularly, even though nothing wireless was being used. I rebooted just the router and all went back to normal. I occasionally get the same probs as you, but normally if i,m hosting say a 3 player private match, i will stay at 4 bars, but if one of my friends host's he gets 4 bars and i get 3. I always run a quick speed test actually on the ps3 before i go online with it, and last night it indicated my download was about 12000kbps, but after the reboot it shot back up again, to over 50,000kbps:D wierd, maybe some gremlins had crawled up the ar5e of my router |
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I added another port i found on a PSN thread and everyone on my team had 4 bars last night and no problems joining my party. It seems there is anohter port to unblock which portforward doesn't tell you about. I have SPI on and MTU at 1500.
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So finally you are a happy chappy, glad to hear it, what was the additional port you had to add. Just curious It looks like ive got to do a full hard reset of my router, due to me dissabling the NAT, and now it wont go back to secured (bummer), I spent ages setting it all up initially. Ive now got SPI back on But MTU is still 1400. Ive noticed that although i have forwarded all my ports for the ps3, the UPNP facility which is still enabled opens up one of the ports ive already forwarded ? Strange :confused: |
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