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http://www.dailyexpress.co.uk/posts/...hut-by-Muslims

Nick Seaton, of the Campaign for Real Education, said: "It seems extreme to force out a club that appears to be doing tremendous good work for children and the community. It's very difficult to see any great grounds for ruining opportunities for children."


well sad day for the kids, what is this country turning into?

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Why am i not surprised.

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If this is true, it is wrong.

But.......

This is the gym instructor's interpretation of what the headmistress said to him - no one has confirmed this.

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Yep i think we need to see some other reports on this so we get a balanced verdict.

Heres the first i found.http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...y-members.html

Cannot see any others at the moment

Certainly the Sun Star and Mirror have not picked up on it yet ;)

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I have seen many reports of this matter, and l am totally appalled by this, As l understand, in one news article, it was stated that, from one official, The parents are very protective of there children.

It is now coming to the point of stupidy, and now the gym has to find new premises, And they will probabely find the same problem again.

A gym is for everyone, no matter what faith it is, my local gym, has every faith there, and l have actaully spoken to the various faiths, and all they talk about is, how fit are you, or how does this work, it will come to a point where we are going to have gyms such as One faith in there, and the other faiths in there, it is getting damn stupid.

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i am appauled, truly appauled at the descision to bow down to small group of asian parents who think they have the right to dictate to a majority .This is not the first time i have heard of such things indeed i have witnessed it first hand at my sons school were asian people use there religion and beliefs to force change to suit themselves.
In my view it is what i call positive racism which is just as bad as racism.But what really gets to me is why people won't stand up to these asians tell them were to get off.If the people in charge hav'nt got the guts to stand up for the other kids in gym then they deserve to lose the use of the gym
And what do they think the other kids will be thinking when they can't go to the gym anymore because a few asian parents objected to boys using it.Well i think another generation of racists has been just been created

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You do realise that being Asian and Muslim are 2 seperate things?

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If you take away the 'asian ' bit, what he is saying is true in a way, And l am not getting involved in a slagging match on what is what, BUT it is racism, and it is time that something has to be done, BUT on the other hand, if they knew this when they joined, why did they join in the first place.

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Well it's an independent school and therein lies the seeds of the problem..if the venue was an ordinary state school there would be no issue about it..:erm:

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well if muslims do not want their females anywhere near boys then keep them at home and out of the rest of our way

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But they've already tried to keep them out of the way of boys, by paying for them to go to an independent girls' school...

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The gym has been there 14 months so they only just been bothered? Muslims should not expect the rest of us to bend for them full stop. This behaviour is what fuel any racial tensions that create a them and us society

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The lunatics are running the asylum.

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i use asian as a collective term, hindus ,muslim chinese all live in Asia

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But they're not asking the rest of us to bend for them. This wasn't a State school - they have taken their girls off to a private school. They have been prepared to go away and pay in order to get the single-sex environment they want for their daughters.

We don't know whether the protests began 14 months ago, or in September when new children arrived at the school, or at some point in between when boys started to attend the gym club. But in any case, the length of time it has taken for these complaints to come to a head and reach the Press isn't really relevant. The parents have paid for a service - namely, a single-sex environment - and they're not getting it.

It seems that it has been going on quietly for some time as the Head has tried to broker a compromise, by saying the gym club could start at 6.30pm once all school activities have finished. However it's the gym club that has rejected this option as they say it would mean too late a finish time for their youngest members.

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What about British Hindus and Muslims? I'm guessing you didn't realise that Hindu and Islam are religions, whereas Asia and China are places?

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It`s in todays Sun.;)

EDIT:Not all of them they dont,there are a couple here in London for starters ;-)

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As distasteful as this story is I think that Chris has a point in that this is a fee paying independent all girls school, so there isn't a lot the local authorities can do.
On the other hand if, as I'm sure the Express Sun or DM would love to print, this was a state school these parents wouldn't have a leg to stand on. But unfortunately there has been an explosion of state paid faith schools in recent years encouraged by this government, so in my opinion segregation will only become worse.

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you know I do not just mean here Chris its accumulative. A little bit here a little bit there all adds up to the average Brit getting screwed

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Yes, that might be the case sometimes, but what worries me on that score is the extent to which that is really happening. There are so many of these headlines in the Express and the Mail at the moment, it's really starting to look like someone's peddling an agenda whereby Muslims are made to look as if they are always trying to screw 'us' over. I really don't think that's the case here.

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okay i'll spell it out ... Asian as in "the Asian community" i wouldn't want to single out any one particular religion but it does appear that Asian people are at center of this discusion we don't know that all of them are practicing muslims If i was certain that they were all muslims then i would say "the muslim community"

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I do agree but my issues run quite deep and go back to the london bombers so my view is tainted somewhat. I am not racist and agree with freedom of religion but I feel its to late for this country its been to soft on immigration and now there is nothing we can do about it.

Does not anyone else find it quite bazaar that we are told to be tolerant and all the equality stuff while the Muslims treat their women so poorly ;)

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Well the news item reports the Headteacher as saying it is due to the number of muslim families now in the school. Isn't that good enough for you?

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Not wanting to go too deep here as it will go off-topic but it tends to be fundamentalist Islam that treats women poorly. That mixed in with a lot of Asian cultures treat women as second class citizens too. So I wouldn't say it's just due to the religion. It's more a cultural thing, not that I'm trying to justify it.

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Our culture is whats being diluted and this is our country,

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not really no, the head teacher cannot say how many practising muslims are involved as he simply cannot know just because it is a faith school does not mean that all pupils and parents are practising muslims,(they probably are but we cannot be certain)anymore than my son is a practising catholic despite going to a catholic primary school,they simply belong to same community which i class as Asian
as RUSSB pointed out it appears to be more of a cultural difference than a religious one

correction..i don't actualy think it is a faith school just a private girls school

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I'm sorry ... either you haven't bothered to read the article in question, or you have read it and totally failed to take any of it in.

The school is not a religious school. It is simply a private school for girls. The headteacher is a she, not a he. Her name is Judy Harris. She has - it is reported - told the gym club that there are an increased number of Muslim children at school this year, and it is their families that are complaining. If she is receiving complaints, then she must know how many complaints she is receiving. Even if there were no complaints about anything, you would expect her to have some idea of the religious leanings of the families sending children to the school, especially non-Christian families who are liable to want to withdraw their children from any Christian assemblies that may be planned.

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1) It is an independent school, not a private school.
2) It is still Tax payer funded.
3) The meetings were after school hours, so were a function of a public building NOT of a school.

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posted that one in wrong box entirely think this wine was stronger than i thought

hic

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Also, you have to wonder what life these Muslim girls have. If these parents are concerned they may pass near to boys after school, then they are obviously chaffeured in an out and must lead a horribly isolated life. Breeding the next subjugated female generation.

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Interesting piece of fiction you're writing there. However, back in the real world:

1. In common usage, independent school and private school means the same thing.
2. It is funded by endowment from the Whitgift Foundation, one of three schools supported by that organisation.
3. The buildings have been an archbishop's residence, the home of an Anglican women's religious order, and are now owned by the school.

I can give you a URL for each piece of this information but I thought it would be more entertaining to ask you your evidence first.

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yes chris i did correct myself as to the type of school it is
and yes i did call her a he (sorry)but the point i am making is that no particular group of people should be able to use religious or cultural differences to dictate to others the way things should be
Has it not occured to anyone that if these "muslim" parents were that bothered about there girls comming into contact with boys then they could quite simply keep the girls in the classroom untill the boys were in the gym or not enrolled their children in the first place as it seems to be the recent influx of asians (muslims for chris's benefit)that are causing the problem and the gym club was there first

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The school has existed in its current form since 1975. The gym club has been there since the beginning of 2008. If we're going to play the 'I was here first' game, then I think the principle of a campus for girls only has been established for quite a lot longer.

Has it not occurred to you that the Muslim parents are that bothered about their daughters coming into contact with boys, and because they are that bothered, they have gone to the fuss and expense of enrolling them in an all girls school ?

Why, exactly, should they then have to take still further measures to secure their wishes for their daughters' education and upbringing? Haven't they done enough?

And what's this barmy idea about keeping them shut in the classroom? You're completely divorced from reality matey. It sounds to me like you're so fixated on pushing your Asian-hating agenda that you're not even bothering to think logically about what you're saying.

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If I paid all that money to send my daughters to an all girls school and it came out they were in gym classes with boys, I'd be pretty peed off.

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These aren't classes. They gym starts after the school has finished.

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From the Daily Diana article in the OP -
"Headteacher Mrs Harris released a statement but refused to give any further details about parents' objections.

She said: "We were unable to accommodate the early starting time of the club as the school was still functioning.

We had hoped that the club could be held at a later time but this was thought unworkable by the organisers." "

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whats the difference ...being kept in a classroom for a few extra minuits or being locked in there house, denied any interaction in the outside world apart from school.Do you even realise what kind of life these muslim girls have,if i treated a daughter of mine in the same fashion then i feel certain that social services would be involved .
i'm sorry chris but but if you condone there actions then it is you and people like you that contribute to the mess this counties in now
And for your information i have not got an "Asian hating agenda"i would feel the same if the religion in discussion was catholic,c of e,bhudist,hindu,or freakin' rasterfarian
if anything it's a religion hating agenda but thats a different topic

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When I first attended an all boys school the (fee paying) boarders were encouraged/required to attend the evening swimming sessions as nature intended, the head teacher included....

- we never had any girls sharing those sessions :angel:

I think moaningmags has summed it up very nicely :tu:

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i don't think they are in classes with the boys as this club is a after school club nothing to do with the school apart from the fact that the school let the club use the gym

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I think the fact is that their are boys around whilst the girls are still at school.

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The term "functioning" is open to debate. The gym session starts at 5pm which is after classes have ended. The school isn't going co-ed. These parents (term used lightly) are objecting to their daughters passing in the proximity of boys as classes end and the gym session begins.

I went to all-boys prep school (which has now gone co-ed) and then a mixed secondary school where classes were segregated. I know the value of it. However my parents encouraged me to interact with all other children outside of school. If these parents object to girls being in the proximity of boys then what kind of social life outside of school will these girls lead? The fact is that these 'parents' want to warp the social interaction into this hideously inbred way.

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this gym club was set up for the good of the community .
community is always being quoted by muslims [community this community that /our community leaders etc ] my take on this is, if its not benefiting the muslim community then it has to go ,and the rest of the community no matter what race colour or creed arent important ,as long as the muslims get there way.
the only losers here are children ,there's no boys in the class rooms etc, it just an after hours activity that has been ruined by the selfish few who will not inter-grate into our multi cultural society ,[the same society there always bleating about] hypocrites .

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And we are only hearing from one viewpoint - that of the guy who can't get what he wanted, and his intrepretation of what the headmistress said.

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which just repeats the same info in the OP.

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gives you another source though doesnt it ;) I know how some of you guys who like the current affairs area of the forum do not like just one source ;) if the op posted from the dailymail I am sure you for one would have requesting more solid information ;)

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Dudley Mead, a governor at the school, said he knew about Muslim parents' concerns, adding: "That's the Muslim belief isn't it? They are very protective of their female children."


doesn't that increase the amount of people reporting the problem?
i think some one just wants to debunk the thread zing ,
a newspaper supremacist maybe


http://www.thisiscroydontoday.co.uk/...l/article.html

http://europenews.dk/en/node/20819

The school also faced claims - which it denied - that a fundraising raffle was banned because it was a form of gambling which would offend Muslim parents.

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Do people wonder why the BNP membership is getting larger?

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No comment,its just ridiculous!!

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Maybe not. Maybe foreverwar wants to hear the school's side of the story. Both stories linked here came from what the man running the gym said. If he had, say, misinterpreted the reason given, both stories would be wrong.

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It would appear the Head has been given ample opportunity to deny the allegations.

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Has anyone realised something, concerning these stories of the Muslim faith, causing problems in the community.

There is MORE aggro coming from these stories about the muslim faith, than any other faith, There was a comment made earlier on this thread, that we always have to bend over backwards towards to faith, than any other, which l think is totally wrong, We have to make a stand about this, I will always work along side my fellow man or woman, whatever faith they are, but it does appear, that as soon as a muslim starts, things start to tick and we have to do this and that. The way l look at it is, If they don't like it, why did they start. They should abide by what we have to do, and if they don't like it, move to somewhere else, In our generation we have equal rights, this is accepted, but we do tend to bend towards accepting what they say. and do what they want, which is unfair on others.

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Fair enough, but we have still only heard one side of the story.


I suppose it's about time I specified some opinions..

Should any parent be forced to allow their child to do something that violates their beliefs? No.

Should that parent allow those beliefs to affect other children? This is a tricky one. No, in the case of something relatively inoffensive such as a school gym, but it depends on what those beliefs involve.

Is it right that a religion should require that boys and girls be segregated? Again, no (IMO). People of both genders will, at some point, have to deal with members of the opposite gender. I feel it is best to encourage them to associate with members of the opposite gender as much as possible.

It's worth noting that in my experience, most Muslims are no more bothered about that sort of thing than, say, Christians (although it *does* depend on what country they were born in).

I have to admit, I am not denying this sort of thing goes on. Organisations do bend over backwards to please one religion over another, I work for one that does. I also have to say that I expressely disagree with the practice.

Edit: I do think, however, that if it is not true (and it's possible it's not), then the school need to issue a statement to that effect.

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I suspect I have a slightly better idea of how they're treated than you do. Not that I'm a Muslim, however. I just think I'm more prone to read up on situations and think about them before forming an opinion rather than simply gobbing off. Social services? Don't make me laugh. You're clueless.

I said don't make me laugh ...

That much is quite obvious. However as has already been pointed out to you, 'Asian' is not a religion. You claimed to understand that at the time, but your post here suggests that you probably still don't get it.

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Dumb prejudice and a refusal to understand, or even acknowledge, the reasons offered for the complaints by the Muslim parents. And you moan that they are selfish or uninterested in integration? Classic.

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thanks for the insults -all I've come to expect ,as you say classic :rolleyes:

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How about we just tell the Muslims to **** off.?
It`s our country and if they don`t like it then tough, we have to abide by their rules in their country. I`m so ****ed off with other nationalities telling us what we can do in our own country. The government pander to them but don`t give a **** about its own nationals.:mad::mad::mad:

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What proof do you have that the Muslim families in question were not born here? I'm willing to bet that most, if not all, of those involved are natural-born British, and just as entitled to a say in what happens in *their* country (i.e. Great Britain) as you are.

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In the thirties, it was the Jews who were the whipping boys. Today it is the Muslims. Unfortunately, humanity always seems to breed bigotry.

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So what? We're just supposed to stand here and watch them take away all of our privileges?

I don't mind them living here, but I DO mind them enforcing their religion over us.

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yeah but its still not. An Indian mum and an Indian Dad imo does not breed a British child (Indian used purely for example)

My heritage dates back hundreds of years so to say someone whos family has been here since the 60's or later are just as British as me is just wrong imo

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What has been enforced on 'us'?

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our loss of freedom to express ourselves for a start.

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I think this thread is getting totally out of control, it is not a question of wether they are born here or not, This great country of ours, puts up with so much ********, from other people that comes here, it is unreal, If we went to there country, we HAVE to abide by there rules, simple as that, in some countries, if you are caught doing something like drinking alcohol, having sex with one other or commiting anycrime AGAINST that country, there is all hell to pay, and you suffer the penalties, come to this country and bang, we do what they want, we pamper to them, and it is not good enough, it is like for an example, when was the last time we heard a problem of THEY have had a go at us, never, When have we heard about US having a go, EVERYDAY. this is why so many people are fed up to the back teeth with it all.

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In what sense is that true, specifically in relation to this thread? Arthur may have a point, it does look like the thread is getting out of control.

I'm not going to let this become a general 'things I don't like about Muslims' rant.

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We can't celebrate Christmas like we used to in all parts of the country? School gyms are being shut down because Muslim parents don't want their kids to mingle with the other sex? Hell, apparently in that same school they couldn't even hold a raffle without offending the Muslims.

Do you think we'd get the same treatment if we went to live in a Muslim country?

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How old are you Chris?
Did you go to school and have Religious Education lessons?
What faith were you taught? or maybe you just don`t believe in god.?

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:erm:

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WTF!

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Let me guess, "winterval"??

I think there might be something about Chris that you may need to know...

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how can you ask a question like that and then tie my hands ?

You have posted just as off topic as anyone else has

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And?
Why the WTF?:confused:

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Which is?
Pm me Russ If it can`t be posted.

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How long have you been a member of this forum? You don't seem to know musch about Chris.

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wait till i get my popcorn i don't want to miss owt

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He is a God fearing man just like Russ and myself

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Funnily enough, I think you'll find many Muslims are also 'God fearing'.

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Been a member here for a few years now, why should i know anything about him? I post what i think and i post my opinions on different topics.

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Ok let me change that to Christian. Do not know that many Christians in modern history so ready to meet their God that they rush there way there with a bomb in a rucksack ;)

Answer me this one question. How many mainly Muslim nations would change their rules to accomadate christians?

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What does that prove? We should treat Muslims the way places like Iran would treat us?

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Chris is one of the bashingest Bible bashers I know! He is a lay preacher at his local church. This would lead me to conclude he has more than a passing belief in Big G....

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Very true, true believers would not blow up innocent people especially children, they`re all ****ing cowards.

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This thread is getting better than Don1's ebaying problems,great entertainment guys lol

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Damien, when you live in a country you abide by the rules of that country.
If you were gay and went to Saudi Arabia, you would be beheaded when they found out.
No good preaching on a forum there..
I`m just saying, we have a predominant belief in Christianity in this country, Other Religions are trying to surpass that.

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I don't think I have posted off topic. The reason I'm asking the question in this way is to try and prevent everyone else, including yourself, from going OT. You may well have some valid and interesting things to say about Muslims and freedom of expression, but I'm not sure how they can directly relate to the issue of a gym club being told they can't use certain local privately-owned premises any more due to objections by some of those premises' paying customers.

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So, What`re your thoughts on this thread then?
Do you have some input?

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Muslims are forced to abide by the rules of our country, fortunately our country is fairly free and tolerant and allows people of all religions to go about their faith.

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I have said about thread getting out of control, well it is, but there is some articles, that have been brought up, that l would like to ad.

So far, each christian event, that we have, it is 'supposed' to offend muslims, festival events, have been changed in case it 'offends' muslims, can you see where l am going, EACH time we celebrate something or we organise something, it has to be changed in case it offends Muslims.

We have to have, the bottle to say NO, but then they can say it offends them, It is going to come to a point, where something outrageous is going to happen, that WE cannot sit on the SAME train or bus as them, this is how stupid it is going to get. argh.

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Objections because of their religion.

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We live in a democracy, not a totalitarian regime. Blaming the Muslims who live in the UK for the shortcomings of some Islamic countries is just desperate nonsense.

And because we live in a democracy, everyone has the right to be heard, and to ask to have their views and their way of life respected. The rest of us have a responsibility to listen to them and then to see how far we can accommodate them, to the best satisfaction of all.

The majority do not lord it over the minority and deny them their voice and their freedoms. If that's what you want, then you want a Britain that is strangely like an Islamic dictatorship.

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Something we can possibly agree on - if you define 'all' as extremists of ANY religion, whether it be the IRA, Al Quaida, Klu Klux Klan, Nazi party, Spanish Inquisition, Irgun gang, Lords Resistance Army, etc, etc.

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I`m a Christian, i don`t attack people with bombs and guns because i think what i believe is right. What i find hard to accept is that some " Religions" think its ok to do this. Isn`t the koran based on peace for example?

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You're great value for money this evening. Here we go:

- Mid 30s. Not sure how that's relevant, but hey.
- Yes.
- All faiths and none. A fairly standard English secondary school curriculum.
- Forgive me, I'm laughing too hard to answer that. Here, do some homework:

Gooogle me. ;)

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Chris, all respect to you, but we can accomodate and respect other religions but not to a point where we`re put in the backseat because of our religious views.

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Which is why it's a very small subset who are violent and not Mainstream Muslims.

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Enough sarcasm please.
Why are you laughing?
"All faiths and none" What the hell does that mean? Have you lost your faith?

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Ok. I'm sorry for laughing. Let me explain.

You asked what religion I was taught at school. Well, in school RE lessons we learned about all religions, and about atheism. That's what RE lessons are for.

What I was taught at Church is a different matter. These days I am a Baptist lay preacher, as Russ already said earlier. I am a Christian. I don't think I'm an especially good one, but I am one.

Now, I'm going to have to think about how to split this thread as we are totally, and irredemably off topic...

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that argument is invalid(imo) .When the great grand parents/grandparents of modern "British muslims"came to this country they came to live here under British law and British ideals to escape the barbarism and intollerance in there own countries .We allow them to practise there religion without predjudice but not to force it on other people
we cannot allow any religion to take precidence over any other .This country should be ruled by democratic law not religious law
the above comment by chris is true and i agree they do have an equal say,although invalid as an argument,and therefore the muslims involved should accept that if they live in this country they will have to compromise some of there beliefs for the good of the majority and not behave like the hard line activists their grand parents escaped from

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CFT, I would strongly urge, for this thread to be closed down, on the grounds that it is getting totally out of control, we must accept, that this is one problem that won't go away, and you can slag off each other till the cows come home, It is agreeablwe that IF we went to that country, we have to abide by there rules, BUT this country, will keep accepting the fact, that we will have to abide by certain faiths, in telling us what to do, you can blame this countries leadership and the human rights for that.

This country, will always keep the gates open, allowing them to come into this country, and there isn't anything we can do about it.

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I agree, but I think it's an overstatement to say that anything that is happening in our society at large amounts to 'putting us in the back seat'. Most of what goes on is barely more than allowing them to ride in the car with us. Possibly allowing them to choose the CD once in a while.

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Right, when i was taught abour RE at school, i was taught about the Bible. Athiesm did`nt come into it,
As a preacher, Is`nt there supposed to be only one god in the christian faith?
And how are these posts off topic?

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Chris,, How often do you read about or are told that we can`t do a certain thing because of offending other Religions?
Don`t you think that thats just wrong? I do.

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HARR I certainly do,but don't wish to incur the mods rath! :D