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Down the Pub 06-02-2009 17:05

New Mobo Time
 
right guys,

got a call from the missus this morning (i was down in deepest snowy somerset working) saying that the keyboard wasn't working - it's backlit so when it's not there is an issue. i got her to unplug and replug it but no go. now i've just got home and it did the same to me, although after a few attempts it did come back on. now i know a couple of the usb ports are non operative and now it looks as if a third is on it's way.

now as i have an ext-hdd & an ext-dvd burner and printer and keyboard/mouse/headset all needing to be plugged in (although not all used at the same time) i'm of the mind to go and get a new mobo either tonight or tomorrow.

current board is an asus p5k-c, not the best board but untill the usb ports started playing up it has been a faithful servent - and it o/c's pretty easy. now i know i could change the cpu aswell as the mobo, but there is still life in the legs of my e6750, so it will be the mobo only - also i can't afford to do both right now.


so would like some clues as to the mobo of choice. nothing to pricey,

1. needs some sort of o/c potential, nothing mad. and thinking that it will have to be a p45 of some form.
2. minimum of 4 rear usb's, 6 is preferable.
3. price of £80-100 max, i know there is a lot in that range.



i'm open to most opinions as i'm not brand driven and look for the best bang and buck at the time.

so if it's asus then asus it will be or maybe biostar or dfi etc etc but call me https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...2009/02/32.gif - and i don't mean literally, but where did j&w come from as i've not heard of them before or are they an off shoot from someone?

zing_deleted 06-02-2009 17:18

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go a little over the ton and get a p5q pro?

standard p5q is a ton http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showpr...=5&subcat=1155

if its just usb ports failing and nothing else is wrong why not just lob a couple of usb 2 cards in>?

Down the Pub 06-02-2009 17:28

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tbh zing, it's not just the usb's. every other day it's not booting properly - not posting etc (even default settings haven't helped) and some other little bits.

so i think that the time may have come to make a change.

DocDutch 06-02-2009 20:28

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this perhaps:

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showpr...=5&subcat=1344

or http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showpr...=5&subcat=1155

got myself a 6750 together with Gigabyte board and it does clock nicely :D

Down the Pub 06-02-2009 20:50

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Quote:

Originally Posted by DocDutch (Post 34728918)
this perhaps:

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showpr...=5&subcat=1344

or http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showpr...=5&subcat=1155

got myself a 6750 together with Gigabyte board and it does clock nicely :D


which g/b board are you running doc?

Jon T 06-02-2009 21:35

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Down the Pub (Post 34728782)
tbh zing, it's not just the usb's. every other day it's not booting properly - not posting etc (even default settings haven't helped) and some other little bits.

so i think that the time may have come to make a change.

Hmm, could be power supply rather than motherboard. Can you swap out the PSU with a known good one first?

Down the Pub 06-02-2009 22:05

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Jon T (Post 34728979)
Hmm, could be power supply rather than motherboard. Can you swap out the PSU with a known good one first?


haven't got one spare jon, when it does it - it's as if the o/c has failed, but if i reset it it starts no problem. it's just more of an annoyance than anything else.

zing_deleted 06-02-2009 22:07

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perhaps cut back on the overclock and test it for a bit then?

Down the Pub 06-02-2009 22:11

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Quote:

Originally Posted by zinglebarb (Post 34729021)
perhaps cut back on the overclock and test it for a bit then?

currently everything is set to default as it didn't boot this afternoon.

The Hitman 06-02-2009 23:06

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Down the Pub (Post 34729023)
currently everything is set to default as it didn't boot this afternoon.

Might be an idea to take it down to a local pc shop. It could be the psu or the mb. I would get it checked out to be safe. I would not want to get new mb and then it still dont work properly ;)

DocDutch 07-02-2009 11:17

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i've got the p35-dq6 but thats not sold anymore and only gripe with it is that its pci express 1 instead of 2 but then i bought the board in 2007

RizzyKing 07-02-2009 15:23

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http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showpr...atid=5&subcat= Nice mobo's that a lot of people are happy with will allow you to oc to what you want with little hassle. Shopping around you can probably shave a few quid off that price as well. Might be an idea to check out your psu as well what haver you got now ?.

Down the Pub 07-02-2009 19:27

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Quote:

Originally Posted by RizzyKing (Post 34729343)
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showpr...atid=5&subcat= Nice mobo's that a lot of people are happy with will allow you to oc to what you want with little hassle. Shopping around you can probably shave a few quid off that price as well. Might be an idea to check out your psu as well what haver you got now ?.

i was look at something like that lastnight, although would have gone to scan as it's only a 20min drive. also looked at the j&w p45d2-ultra and the biostar t-power - both clockable boards.

at the mo i have an ocz evostream 720, and thus far not had a problem with it. following on from what jon suggested, i took it out and tried it in my bro-in-law's rig this afternoon (which was less hassle than getting a new one to test, and his is broken) and no probs that i could see with either the pc or psu.

smee init 07-02-2009 20:11

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Hi, are the dodgy usb ports in the back wired directly to the mobo or on front? does the mouse stop working as well? also when it wont boot up does it do the mobo splash screen then nothing as that could point to your processor either naff or getting abit too hot if so try renewing heat paste?

Down the Pub 07-02-2009 21:56

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Quote:

Originally Posted by smee init (Post 34729476)
Hi, are the dodgy usb ports in the back wired directly to the mobo or on front?

they are part of the i/o port set-up on the rear of the board

Quote:

Originally Posted by smee init (Post 34729476)
does the mouse stop working as well?

it does as it's plugged into the k/b to..........

a) save using a port
b) stop any snagging on the cable


Quote:

Originally Posted by smee init (Post 34729476)
also when it wont boot up does it do the mobo splash screen then nothing as that could point to your processor either naff or getting abit too hot if so try renewing heat paste?

it starts normally for a couple of seconds, but fails to show post screen or windows splash. not sure how heat would affect it on boot up, but the last time i checked both cores running idle sat at around 26°c/27°c but will recheck in a bit.

RizzyKing 08-02-2009 00:22

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Glad to see your psu isn't the problem i have discovered recently my 700w is on it's way out causing the system to crash and freeze when power draw goes up but buying a new one to gaurantee that won't be a problem. I have a friend that has the board i linked to and he is very happy with it and hasn't had any major problems.

I have the DS5 version and while an excellent board as it has the 10 sata ports i needed is a bit on the costly side for a normal upgrade. Either way gigabyte and asus have a lot of support on a lot of forums so your safe buying either one as most problems can be sorted quickly with a bit of searching so good luck with whatever you buy and hope it sorts it for you :).

Down the Pub 08-02-2009 09:21

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Quote:

Originally Posted by RizzyKing (Post 34729577)
Glad to see your psu isn't the problem i have discovered recently my 700w is on it's way out causing the system to crash and freeze when power draw goes up but buying a new one to gaurantee that won't be a problem. I have a friend that has the board i linked to and he is very happy with it and hasn't had any major problems.

I have the DS5 version and while an excellent board as it has the 10 sata ports i needed is a bit on the costly side for a normal upgrade. Either way gigabyte and asus have a lot of support on a lot of forums so your safe buying either one as most problems can be sorted quickly with a bit of searching so good luck with whatever you buy and hope it sorts it for you :).

thats a nice looking and spec'd board, indeed 10 sata ports are nice. now you got me thinking, i have 2 sata dvd-rw drives aswell as 3 hdd's with space for more - expansion is good.

DocDutch 08-02-2009 11:11

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that was my reason for picking the dq6 good cooling and 10 sata ports but like rizzy has said there is alot of support on either asus and gigabyte sites or forums

RizzyKing 08-02-2009 13:27

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It is a good board i havn't had a single problem with it and it recognised 8gig of ram with no problems so if you have the extra cash i would recommend it. One of the main reasons i got it was that when you get one of the latest higher end cards they can block some sata ports so having 10 of them sorted that :).

Down the Pub 08-02-2009 16:50

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how big are are the sinks on that? will it have any trouble with thermalright-120? wouldn't fancy having to unnecessarily get another cooler.

zing_deleted 08-02-2009 17:03

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Quote:

Originally Posted by RizzyKing (Post 34729747)
It is a good board i havn't had a single problem with it and it recognised 8gig of ram with no problems so if you have the extra cash i would recommend it. One of the main reasons i got it was that when you get one of the latest higher end cards they can block some sata ports so having 10 of them sorted that :).


if you buy or find the angled sata cables you will find that any possibly problems with large gfx cards are eleviated

smee init 08-02-2009 17:51

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Down the Pub (Post 34729509)
they are part of the i/o port set-up on the rear of the board



it does as it's plugged into the k/b to..........

a) save using a port
b) stop any snagging on the cable




it starts normally for a couple of seconds, but fails to show post screen or windows splash. not sure how heat would affect it on boot up, but the last time i checked both cores running idle sat at around 26°c/27°c but will recheck in a bit.

Had exactly the same problem with a clients PC thought it was mobo but after changing mobo found that it was processor, when booted up it would do the mobo splash for a sec then nothing and every other reboot there was nothing at all changed processor then all fine. Am only saying this coz you dont want 2 go buying new mobo just 2 find same problem I did lol.

RizzyKing 08-02-2009 18:40

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I had no problems and didn't need to alter anything to fit my tuniq tower on to the board never had a TRUE so not completely sure on them but can't imagine them being bigger then a TT120 :). Yeah angled cables can help Zing but on 2 of the ports even angled cables were not 100% good with a 4870X2 so having the spare ports was a good thing. Horses for courses as it is with all components really i read some reviews websites then some user reviews amazing how often they differ and then read support forums to see if something seems to have a lot of problems. It comes down to how much you want to spend and how comfortable you are with the component your going to buy i was able to have a good look at a DS5 before i bought it and was happy.

Down the Pub 08-02-2009 19:56

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cheers rizzy, the tr120 is still a bit of a chunky chap. and as for the gfx/sata problem - i'm still running a 8800gts-320 and is ok on my current board.

RizzyKing 08-02-2009 20:22

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Anytime :).


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