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ABC has officially greenlit a pilot for its reworking of V ! 80's sci-fi great !
so we can talk about this up comeing tv event i'm going to set up a thread for talk and casting info that sort of thing http://www.variety.com/article/VR111...&cs=1&nid=2565 v universe http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/V_(science_fiction) |
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They should cast Freddie Starr as one of the aliens. After all they did seem to enjoy eating a lot of rodents :D
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SDA, I've fixed the Wiki link (looks like vbulliten messed it up).
I am looking forward to a V remake but one thing I hope they keep is the references to facism in this country. Kenneth Johnson has said that the original V was based (at least in part) on the treatment of other races/faiths (in particular, the Jewish) by the Nazis in the second world war. I think that is part of what made V actually quite a powerful drama. |
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V Reboot? BRING IT ON!!:)
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I just can't wait.
I wonder who will play the character diana....... goes off for a very cold shower in liquid oxygen now :) If it's made to the same standards of BSG then it's going to be another classic. |
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I would like to see this done, but I'm just a tad concerned. Original BSG was tea-time cheese for kids so it was possible to re-do it without damaging the legacy of something that was hardly a classic first time round. Original V, on the other hand, is already the kind of gritty adult drama that new BSG is. All its really missing is 21st century production techniques. To put it another way, I'm not convinced whether they really can 're-imagine' the concept in the way BSG was done; they are liable to simply end up with a re-make, and re-makes are, IMO, more often than not pointless and not an improvement on the original. And what's V without Jane Badler anyway? :D |
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No Ken Johnson for this one? :(
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another thing that made the original v so good was the music it was so powerfull it was like it was a extra character in the show.
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Trivia time now. Am I right in thinking that the original miniseries, shown on consecutive nights by ITV during the 1984 Olympics, wasn't originally shown in a single block in the USA? The theme tune changes halfway through, is why I'm asking. The best version is the one used during the second half of the miniseries. All heavy drums and a repetitive electric piano riff, with a subtly changing bass line. They used a different one for the full-length series that was made, which IIRC may have been the same as the first couple of eps of the mini? Any V trivia buffs out there? I did watch the re-runs of this on Sci Fi a couple of years ago but I can't remember now. |
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I watched V: The Series on its first run on UK television, ITV (I think), mid 80s ... we used to discuss it at school the next morning, and moan about it being on so late at night. Am I showing my age now? :disturbd:
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I'm suprised they didn't go the whole hog and have a lizard with a Hitler tash. |
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Morena Baccarin, the amazingly beautiful actress who played Inara in Firefly & Adria in SG-1, has been cast as one of the main aliens in the V reboot:
http://www.tvguide.com/News/Pilot-Ba...b&profileid=01 |
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I just hope she doesn't have short hair in it like in that photo.
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Official synopsis, plus some clips & promo images:
http://www.scificool.com/preview-new...ges-and-clips/ |
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A few people I know in it ;
Elizabeth Mitchell (Juliet in Lost) Alan Tudyk (Alpha in Dollhouse) Morena Baccarin (Adria in Stargate) Laura Vandervoort (Kara in Smallville) Joel Gretsch (Tom in The 4400) |
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I've been ignoring this thread as I thought it was about the V+ box.
But ooooooh it's about V the tv programme, loved this first time around and will watch a reboot of it. |
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Like the show i watch on dvd but i guess that's the point. from The 2 clips thay showed on that site it has much going for it with A good style and solid story. just hope it's given a chance to Develope in to a good show. :) *heads off to watch classic v dvd's :D* |
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Looks good,
But what they need to do is give it a finite life. Many series that start out open ended lose their way and subsequently their audience Lost, Prison Break, BSG all examples to that. Only when Lost and BSG were given an end date did they again gather momentum. If , for example, you know that this series is only going to be 20 epeisodes long then you know you're heading to a conclusion. Open ended series finales are proven not to be satisfactory. I also think that when a series is cancelled the studio should always try and tie it up with mini-season. Jericho was a good example of that. |
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I caught it first time round and remember it fondly...mainly for Jane Badler. Rowf!
Mind you, Faye Grant was simultaneously strong and cute, very appealing. The characters were so well-written, especially Julie - I loved the way everyone just assumed she was going to take charge of the Resistance when she in fact had no intention whatsoever of doing so, and looked utterly nonplussed (and more than a bit scared) when she realised it. Elizabeth was a bit of a deus ex machina, but all the same it was a good series. Some of the lines were classics - remember the exchanges between Diana and Pamela (Sarah Douglas, looking awful with curls)? Utter bitchiness to equal anything out of Dallas or Dynasty (and no, I did not watch either of those - it would be more accurate to say the rest of the family inflicted them on me while I prayed for sweet, sweet death): "You might take a moment to consider, my dear, that your...lover...sent you fifty trillion kilometres away. Hardly an indication he can't bear not to see you." On the impromptu skydive: Donovan: Cadets really do this? Martin: No - (boots Donovan over the edge) - sounded good, though, didn't it? Martin and Willie on receiving the vaccine: Martin: I've tasted worse. Willie: When? Elias and his father Caleb finally finding common ground: "Look, Pop, I was just jokin' with the guys, I didn't mean nothin' by it." "Right away you assume I'm gonna come down on you -" "Ain't that the way it's always been, huh?" "Perhaps so. I disagreed with what you said at the meeting..." "So what's new?" "...but you said it well. I was damn proud of you, son." Abraham's speech to his son Daniel moved me to tears, and still does: "Don't you see, they have to stay...or else we haven't learned a thing!" Any reboot will be hard-pressed to rival such quality. I wish 'em luck. |
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The re-boot looks promising, if the clips are anything to go by. There was something genuinely chilling about the sequence with the journalist. Now I want to know whether he's going to sell out or not!
Good scifi can be a great vehicle for exploring difficult human issues by taking them out of their familiar settings. The original V worked well like that, as an examination firstly of the Holocaust and later of the nature of armed (but hopelessly outgunned) guerilla resistance. But that's not to say the re-make needs to do the same thing. Just as the re-booted BSG used the same basic storyline to examine a completely different range of issues, the re-booted V can happily do likewise. Actually I hope it does - there are some obvious targets out there (raping of Earth's resources would be a natural fit). ---------- Post added at 14:03 ---------- Previous post was at 14:02 ---------- Incidentally, did anyone else have trouble making that link work in Firefox? I got the homepage OK but I couldn't make the V page open. Had to go to Safari eventually. |
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just seen the trailer anyone eles spot the nod to original v ;)
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one thing that i do like about this reboot is the Style of the show did worry that thay'd go for the over the top look of the first v but hats of to tham thay have not
suited and booted the look is very light and modern visitor uniforms stand out importantly tho not like a sore thumb just enough to make you think there not from around here but at the same time sends out a feeling of trust to anyone thay come across it's in the sky again as with the suites the ship both motherships and landing shuttles are done in away that makes tham stand out but not to much just enough to give you a feeling of awe as for the inside that's more the sort of thing i'd say that the inside of a alien ship would look like more than in the classic or even some other shows we get now adays. thay are the same but different the visitor themselves come in 2 groups the first are the command group that seem to have been given a cold menacing look sort of like you know thay are hideing something but your not sure what at the same time with a simple look thay can put you at ease and bring you over to there side the second are the youth movement the young visitor thay seem to have been given a much more friendly look this is so that can slowly bring in the young people of earth and get Control of tham while their minds are still in development. end of part 1 will post more ones i have had a think |
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Anyone know when this is going to air?
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A special screening of the pilot episode of the upcoming re-imagining will take place at Comic Con 2 weeks today will be very interesting tosee fan reaction even this early it's going to be important
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The "V" reboot has been brought forward to November this year :)
http://community.post-gazette.com/bl...v-arrives.aspx The producers also say they've considered having actors from the original "V" appear in the new one (as different characters of course). |
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Looking forward to this.
I remember V first time round on Thames and all the publicity that went with it. |
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A anyone know what Uk network has picked up the rights to show this ?
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This is going on hiatus after just 4 episodes in.
http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/cult/a17...-episodes.html |
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Lame.
If it has to be delayed, I think they should delay the whole thing. Showing four episodes & then going on a massive break seems rather stupid to me. |
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Sci Fi UK presumably? We're not talking about Sci Fi US rescuing V?
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Sci Fi UK. If it was the American one, it would be "Syfy" (:rolleyes:).
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Isn't Sci-Fi uk the UK being renamed to Syfy?
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Sorry for bumping this one back up, there's the first 8 mins of the new V as part of ABC's first look.
You can find it here http://www.thrfeed.com/2009/10/the-f...of-abcs-v.html |
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Ohhhhhhhh - looks ok....no doubt it won't be a oatch on the original though. Any idea when it's coming to the UK? |
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from what I've read, it wont show here till 2010, but as they're showing the first 4 episodes in the states then leaving it until next year, I suppose it's the better option, as we don't like to split shows in the same way.
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well there is less than 10 weeks of the year left
Bones and Fringe is on one of its breaks in the US too I do hate that myself The only good thing is we will catch up here and I can watch it in HD without having to download it lol |
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The showrunner has stepped down, he'll be replaced by Scott Rosenbaum who is an exec producer for Chuck.
http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/cult/s82...teps-down.html This show is forever being hit with problems. |
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Word is that part 1 is a bit ropey, especially with substandard editing. Has anyone here seen it?
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Just finished watching it and it was ok. Will wait for the next ep before passing judgement though.
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"Is there such thing as an ugly Visitor?"
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What a pity. When the original is a classic you have a responsibility to work pretty darned hard if you presume to re-make it. If what you produce is anything less than superb you're always going to compare unfavourably.
BSG pulled it off magnificently IMO. I hope the people that have re-made V didn't assume the success of BSG meant they could simply re-hash an original idea and have an instant success on their hands. |
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I quite liked the pilot. I also liked some of the changes to the original premise, such as
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As for quality of the pilot (not meaning actual plot, production, etc.)... Although obviously I myself have just got back from watching it in the US :erm: :angel:, I have heard that there are two different "scene releases" available on the "internet". One is a very bad "rip" which is "not linear with the broadcast", while the other is a much better quality version labelled as "proper". |
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I've just bought the "Complete Collection" of the original "V" from Amazon for £17.98 :)
Original Mini-series + The Final Battle mini-series + the TV series |
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They certainly did not take their time kicking it off with the V showing theor true colours to some . Thought it was very good :)
Anyone who knows the scene will read reports on indexing sites and look for propers if there is need ;) I believe only the the xvid is bad the 720 is ok I think(apparently there are 3 little glitches but it is in sequence) ;) |
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Wow, it premiered with 14m viewers. Not bad for a first episode in the US...
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Just watched it and I really do like the way they've brought in changes from the original. Will definately be looking for this as it gets shown
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thats not unseen footage if you watched the pilot this week lol
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you do realise you have spent £18 on total cheese don't you lol
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Well I watched the pilot tonight and thought it was total rubbish. The plot moved far, far too quickly, making it feel horribly rushed and poorly written. There was no build up, no suspense, and events which happened in the original several episodes in happened within the first 20 minutes... It was a mess.
Add to that the relentless pro christianity propaganda and this isn't something I'll be watching again. The current crop of American TV, excluding the superb Mad Men Season 3, has been disappointing, but this new V remake has been by far the worst so far. |
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The new one doesn't have that, but it has introduced several new concepts, and while the first episode was a bit patchy, it did introduce several potentially intresting plotlines. Spoiler:
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Yep, I was amazed at how different the new version is, which is why I like it so much. In fact, the only similarity between the two is that there are spaceships all over the major cities and they're reptiles under their human skin. Thassaboutit!! Oh, I also like the fact the new version has much thicker, more realistic "fake" skin... :)
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http://www.play.com/DVD/DVD/4-/60297...t/Product.html Still, I had a code for Amazon which wiped out the postage cost. Plus, if I had ordered it from Play.com I would have had to wait longer due to it being shipped from Jersey. Quote:
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I did still enjoy it though. Relentless pro-Christianity propaganda? :confused: ---------- Post added at 19:18 ---------- Previous post was at 19:15 ---------- Quote:
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I don't want to personally see *any* religion on TV, particularly not in a sci-fi series which above all things should be free from the lingering delusions of primative people long since dead. |
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Religion of different types is part of this countries culture deal with it! |
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all it was doing was introducing a character who actually was going against his faith and questioned Gods existence because of the Aliens. Hardly promotion? I am guessing you are an atheist bigot the opposite of a religious bigot
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And thanks for the insult, that was really nice of you. Athiests just prefer not to have religion shoved into their faces, and given how deeply unpleasant it is I don't think that's an unreasonable request. |
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Guys, can we please not sling insults or turn this into an argument about religion.
As for the actual episode in question: No, I didn't fall asleep, & yes, I did see people going to church in the episode in greater numbers due to the uncertainty of the situation with the Visitors. I didn't see it as being "relentlessly pro-Christianity propaganda" though. As zing said, they were introducing a main character who was going against his faith & questioning things because of the arrival of the Visitors. He was also questioning the wisdom of the Vatican in their blind acceptance of the Visitors, & he was warning against people turning to blind worship or devotion of the Visitors. I didn't see it as "pro-Christian", & I'm an atheist myself, so also don't want to have religion shoved in my face on TV. In the US, some people are seeing it as being a criticism of "Obamamania". |
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The writers are observing that, in times of crisis, people do turn to God. That's plain fact; the churches of New York were packed after 9/11. However they are also posing big questions about faith and whether the existence of alien life would prove that there is no God after all (hence the falling crucifix). We are invited, in the first episode's closing scenes, to ponder these issues with the two central characters whose faith has just been shattered: the priest riven with doubt and the FBI officer who just discovered her trusted friend and partner is a lizard. Who deserves our devotion? This episode is anything but a rallying cry for God, church or any other religion. |
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Episode 2 was quite good I think. Not a great deal happens I spose but its building the characters
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I dislike seeing religion on TV when it is shown in a positive context, and that is exactly how I saw it in V. The falling cross was pretty irrelevant as it did no harm, and the show then went on to show the church packed with new devotees. Why show this? Why not show the rational of society instead questioning the science of the aliens? Why focus on the stupid? (sorry for the crude term, but a lack of intelligence and belief in 'god' are directly linked (look it up, it's a proven fact)) I believe it was there to appease the far right in the US, who have become increasingly demanding over the past decade or so and want to see their own particular brand of delusion forced into everything, whether it serves for plot or not. If you saw it another way, that's fine, but for me it was one of many negative points for the V reboot, and why I haven't bothered getting episode 2. |
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You ask why not show 'the rational' of society: you already have your answer, again in 9/11. When big and unsettling things happen, the human race shows itself to be instinctively religious. I'm sorry if that upsets your rational world-view, but I didn't invent human nature. It is what it is. ;) Quote:
Would you like me to supply you with a list of some of the world's well known, highly intelligent religious people? People like Nicholas Copernicus, for example, who proposed the heliocentric view of our solar system and yet was also ordained in the Catholic Church? Sir Francis Bacon, who proposed and established the scientific method yet believed "It is true, that a little philosophy inclineth man’s mind to atheism, but depth in philosophy bringeth men's minds about to religion"? I could go on, at great length, but let's not get off topic. We're meant to be discussing the merits of a sci-fi TV show. :D Quote:
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Also, this is an excellent debate (split into 5 parts on YouTube) with Stephen Fry, Christopher Hitchens and others on whether the catholic church is a good thing. - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XNODi...layer_embedded And do you really want to go down the pahh of naming famous athiests/religious people? - http://www.celebatheists.com/wiki/Main_Page I think with the likes of Richard Dawkins, Douglas Adams, Stephen Fry, Richard Branson, David Attenbrough, John Carmack, Bob Geldof, James Randi, Steve Wozniac, and Woody Allen I'm in good company. To bring this back on topic, I'm not going to watch any more V. Even if the religious nonsense wasn't there it would still have been poorly paced, generic sci-fi which didn't engage me. |
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No list of famous atheists will substantiate your claim, however only a very short list of intelligent religious people is enough to prove it wrong. And there I both rest my case and insist we both now drop it and return to discussing TV. If you want to explore the issue of intelligence and religious belief any further, by all means start a new thread about it. |
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Will this show becomeing to the uk any time soon ?
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I believe Sci Fi UK are planning to show it in January.
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A good third episode, IMO.
We're starting to see the Resistance slowly getting together, plus getting mentions of the Fifth Column. Nice way of dealing with Tudyk's character too. I just hope the plan for Erica's irritating son & the sexy young Visitor isn't going to end up with another "Star Child". |
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For reference the 4th Show is the last till March 2010.. The reason cited for this is the winter Olympics... BUT.. It's more than likely due to the reshuffle they had earlier this year when they had a major high level staff change with executive producer Scott Peters replaced by Scott Rosenbaum, a former executive producer of NBC's Chuck.
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I had a bit of a "V" marathon on Sunday, & watched the entire original mini-series & "The Final Battle".
Great stuff. 80s cheese & bad FX mixed with serious Nazi allegory. I'd forgotten how hot Jane Badler was. |
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But have you watched the original follow on series??? That was after the red-dust was used???
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That's up next (can't fit that in one day too!). I have the "Complete Collection" DVD box set. Seen the whole thing before, but not for years.
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I haven't started on the TV series yet, but the PQ of both mini series was actually pretty good (although the special effects showed their age). Widescreen too, which was nice (the TV series is 4:3 though). |
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Just a quick heads up..
Episode 5 of season one airs in the US tonight. :) It's been far too long since episode 4 |
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Not too bad.
I still think it would have been better if they'd not shown *any* episodes until now though, instead of showing 4 & then having a massive break. Going on hiatus for such an abnormally long time never helps the ratings. |
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I agree totally.
Liked the end scene nice teeth lol lol |
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"Now my eggs need nourishment" :eek:
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Although having said that, I saw a few scenes where they appeared to run out of money.. |
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