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rickyg01 24-01-2009 21:23

Laptop help : vista update
 
on updating the laptop its stuck on a loop,

stage 3 of 3, and restarts.....

no cd/dvd drive on laptop,

no recovery software

i have important files on this, and need it operational,

any help will do

RubberyDuck 24-01-2009 21:52

Re: Laptop help : vista update
 
Restart Laptop, press F8 straight after Bios Screens. You may need to press a few times.

Select Last Known Configuration and press enter.

If this don't work, restart and select Safe Mode instead.

Re-run Windows Update.

zing_deleted 24-01-2009 21:55

Re: Laptop help : vista update
 
any joy with safe mode? if not perhaps source a live cd of sometype pclinux works in ram if you have enough (I dunno if other nix do as I do not know anything about it) this will allow access to your files I believe. The other option is a clean install but leave the partition intact if you have some operating system software.

Do you have a Vista dvd?

rickyg01 24-01-2009 21:58

Re: Laptop help : vista update
 
tryed going into safe mode, it still does the updating and restarts, and the last known config doesnt work it does the same,

the livecd thing is a nogo as its not got a cd/dvd drive, unless it works by usb flash pen thingy

edit: yeah i got the disk but no dvd drive,

zing_deleted 24-01-2009 22:03

Re: Laptop help : vista update
 
yeah sorry missed that you can get distros to boot off usb but you will need some other nix gurus to sort you out.

What machine is this? how can it ship with no way of recovery?

rickyg01 24-01-2009 22:07

Re: Laptop help : vista update
 
when i go to boot the recovery it like says

edit windows boot options for : vista bla bla

path \windows\system32\winload.exe

partition: 2
hard disk: do4bf3dd

[ /noexecute=optin ]

then it goes to load vista again and carries on with the restarting

---------- Post added at 21:07 ---------- Previous post was at 21:06 ----------

i wouldnt mind going the usb way, i could do whats needed that way?

zing_deleted 24-01-2009 22:08

Re: Laptop help : vista update
 
what machine is it

http://www.linux-usb.org/

you would be better off waiting for those more knowledgable in nix

rickyg01 24-01-2009 22:12

Re: Laptop help : vista update
 
just some random acer laptop, dont know model number, couple months old,

okies i'll wait for them

zing_deleted 24-01-2009 22:13

Re: Laptop help : vista update
 
Take it you have tried hitting CTRL and F11 or just F11 I think they are the combos for acer

rickyg01 24-01-2009 22:15

Re: Laptop help : vista update
 
yeah thats when its coming up with the edit boot options,

RubberyDuck 24-01-2009 22:31

Re: Laptop help : vista update
 
You can convert a Linux CD to USB with this tool:

http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/

Dai 24-01-2009 22:40

Re: Laptop help : vista update
 
Personally, before I messed with it any more I'd pull the hard disk and slave it to another machine. If you have important files on there you want to be damn sure they're safe before you try to mess with recovery options.

Unfortunately this requires special connectors, so you'll probably need a tech.

admars 24-01-2009 22:51

Re: Laptop help : vista update
 
http://www.pendrivelinux.com/
you'd need a 64mb usb device to make a damn small linux bootable OS. The instructions there are pretty good.
if you have alarger device, you could put on something you may find more user friendly/feature packed, but a simple Damn Small Linux should be enough to see your files, I'm fairly sure it can see NTFS now. If nto maybe Puppy Linux can.

homealone 24-01-2009 22:53

Re: Laptop help : vista update
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by DaiNasty (Post 34721646)
Personally, before I messed with it any more I'd pull the hard disk and slave it to another machine. If you have important files on there you want to be damn sure they're safe before you try to mess with recovery options.

Unfortunately this requires special connectors, so you'll probably need a tech.

you can get external usb interfaces that may be ok for just getting files off a misbehaving drive

for example

http://www.maplin.co.uk/Module.aspx?...C=SO&U=strat15

for IDE

or a bit more expensive (at Maplin anyway) for SATA

http://www.maplin.co.uk/Module.aspx?...C=SO&U=strat15

Dai 24-01-2009 22:56

Re: Laptop help : vista update
 
but if he can't get the lappie to boot it's all theoretical anyway.

That's why I suggested the slave route.

I guess boot from a USB stick and save to a USB drive could be a workable combination but it's a lot of work when a slave job would be quicker and easier.

Aragorn 24-01-2009 22:56

Re: Laptop help : vista update
 
SysrescueCD will run happily off USB flash drive, only abt 250Mb and you can read NTFS and save files to the flash drive.

Dai 24-01-2009 23:00

Re: Laptop help : vista update
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Aragorn (Post 34721661)
SysrescueCD will run happily off USB flash drive, only abt 250Mb and you can read NTFS and save files to the flash drive.

Cool link, thanks.
:)

zing_deleted 24-01-2009 23:02

Re: Laptop help : vista update
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by DaiNasty (Post 34721659)
but if he can't get the lappie to boot it's all theoretical anyway.

That's why I suggested the slave route.

I guess boot from a USB stick and save to a USB drive could be a workable combination but it's a lot of work when a slave job would be quicker and easier.


I do own solutions for both ide and sata laptops. I have an esata docking station that takes sata and I have an laptop ide to usb caddy so id be ok lol

RubberyDuck 24-01-2009 23:06

Re: Laptop help : vista update
 
This might help:

http://vistape.net/

Though you will need an ISO image of Vista. If you know where to look I'm sure you'll find one.

Worse comes to the worst, you can do an inplace upgrade with it.

Aragorn 24-01-2009 23:08

Re: Laptop help : vista update
 
Instructions for mounting an NTFS HD are here.
Typically you would do something like -
fdisk -l (find out the device name for your NTFS partition, usually /dev/sda1, and the USB drive, /dev/sda2 - fdisk tells you how big each disk is, so easy to spot which is which)
mkdir /mnt/windows
mount -t ntfs /dev/sda1 /mnt/windows
mkdir /mnt/usb
mount -o rw /dev/sd2 /mnt/usb
cd /mnt/windows
<find files>
cp <files> /mnt/usb/

Dai 24-01-2009 23:23

Re: Laptop help : vista update
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by zinglebarb (Post 34721664)
I do own solutions for both ide and sata laptops. I have an esata docking station that takes sata and I have an laptop ide to usb caddy so id be ok lol

Ditto. Sadly they're not the sort of kit the OP is likely to have kicking around in the kitchen drawer..

rickyg01 24-01-2009 23:45

Re: Laptop help : vista update
 
ok, ive put my hd of laptop into my pc, but the pc doesnt pick it up?

am i doing something wrong?

Dai 24-01-2009 23:51

Re: Laptop help : vista update
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by rickyg01 (Post 34721695)
ok, ive put my hd of laptop into my pc, but the pc doesnt pick it up?

am i doing something wrong?

Ricky, you need a special adaptor that supplies power to the disk as well as the data connections. If you don't have one of these don't try it. You may damage the disk.

zing_deleted 25-01-2009 00:10

Re: Laptop help : vista update
 
if its sata is it not powered the same whether 2.5 or 3.5 thats how my docking station works anyway

rickyg01 25-01-2009 00:23

Re: Laptop help : vista update
 
it looks like i just need a sata cable to connect it to the motherboard, i have the other lead that plugs into it to give it power,

how cheap are theses leads?

Dai 25-01-2009 01:00

Re: Laptop help : vista update
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by zinglebarb (Post 34721704)
if its sata is it not powered the same whether 2.5 or 3.5 thats how my docking station works anyway

Oops, you're quite right. It's getting late and I was thinking IDE..

Ricky, they're cheap as chips. If you have a local small pc shop they've probably got a box full.

rickyg01 25-01-2009 19:12

Re: Laptop help : vista update
 
hey,

just thought i'd inform you all,

stop messing about with it all , went to my mates used his external and reinstalled it,

now to turn off microsofts updates


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