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superhoops 02-12-2008 22:46

Series Record Didnt Work
 
HI all. I am quite new to the v+ (about 3 weeks).
I have set several programmes to series record. Tonight, for the first time since it started, I'm a celebrity get me out of here didn't record. I have checked and the series record instruction is still there so hasn't accidentally got deleted. There was another programme recording at about the same time and in addition I had live tv on pause. Does having the tv on pause stop one of the two recordings from starting?
Secondly, when browsing the tv guide I have noticed episodes of programmes that I have set to series record(i.e. Aircrash Investigation, Torchwood and a few others) aren't set to record and I have had to set series record again. I currently have 3 instances of Aircrash Investigation and 2 of Torchwood in my planned series records. Looking at the details by pressing the "i" button they aren't ones that I have already seen.
As a last question (sorry) and probably off-topic (forgive me) how far should I be sitting back from a 40" lcd tv as I don't feel the picture is that good often and wonder if I am too near to it- As an example Ant and Dec's faces are a little pixellated sometimes!

Thanks for reading.

Wicked_and_Crazy 02-12-2008 22:48

Re: Series Record Didnt Work
 
having live TV on pause and trying to record two programmes would be your problem. The V+ can only record two things at once.


If there are two series ofthe same programme on the same channel it can look a little odd as you have to set a series record for both series

superhoops 02-12-2008 22:52

Re: Series Record Didnt Work
 
Oh I see, I must remember that as I use pause live tv quite a lot. Should it put a warning up on the screen that a planned recording can't start? If it did I didnt see it.

piggy 02-12-2008 22:52

Re: Series Record Didnt Work
 
@superhoops

a rough guide for viewing distance is 2- 3 times screen size so in your case 8-10 ft

superhoops 02-12-2008 23:14

Re: Series Record Didnt Work
 
Thanks. I am about 6-7 feet away. (Small room!)

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A strange thing- As a test I have just started to record 2 programs and then paused live tv - and they all worked!

homealone 02-12-2008 23:28

Re: Series Record Didnt Work
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by superhoops (Post 34688223)
Thanks. I am about 6-7 feet away. (Small room!)

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A strange thing- As a test I have just started to record 2 programs and then paused live tv - and they all worked!


the V+ afaik has 3 tuners, so the 'record 2 pause another' should theoretically work, as you found, however the order in which the record functions are enabled could matter, or differ for series record? - Spiderplant may be able to throw further light on this ???

spiderplant 03-12-2008 11:45

Re: Series Record Didnt Work
 
:waving:

The order doesn't matter. You can always record two and watch/pause a third. That's three tuners for you. :)

SEB_WW 03-12-2008 12:08

Re: Series Record Didnt Work
 
I have I'm a celebrity get me out of here on series link too and mine also failed to record last night. This is despite the fact it was doing nothing else at the time, plus the red record light was on and even in the TV guide it was highlighted red. Also, the HDD was making the sort of noise it normally does when recording. When I pressed record, it asked me did I want to cancel - in other words to all intents and purposes, it WAS recording. But it wasn't showing up in recorded programmes - eventually, later on, it did, but with "Failed" next to it.

Wicked_and_Crazy 03-12-2008 12:12

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Quote:

Originally Posted by spiderplant (Post 34688475)
:waving:

The order doesn't matter. You can always record two and watch/pause a third. That's three tuners for you. :)

If you have
Tuner 1 on pause
Tuner 2 recording a 2 hour programme
Tuner 3 recording 2 * 1 hour programmes end to end

With the overlap of the program recordings on tuner 3 (even though they're end to end) this can cause recordings to fail. I've seen it fail on mine but i've also seen it work so haven't worked out the critical factor yet.

danny999911 03-12-2008 18:06

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With regards to the programs not showing as they will record, just wait. I have noticed this before, just check a day or two before they are going to record and they should show in red, even if they are not doing now.

cupcakes aka dd 04-12-2008 11:04

Re: Series Record Didnt Work
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Wicked_and_Crazy (Post 34688493)
If you have
Tuner 1 on pause
Tuner 2 recording a 2 hour programme
Tuner 3 recording 2 * 1 hour programmes end to end

With the overlap of the program recordings on tuner 3 (even though they're end to end) this can cause recordings to fail. I've seen it fail on mine but i've also seen it work so haven't worked out the critical factor yet.

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For tuner 3 recording 2 *1 hour programmes I usually do a manual recording for a length of 2 hours to be on the safe side.

superhoops 04-12-2008 22:35

Re: Series Record Didnt Work
 
Thanks all for your replies. Going back to one of my earlier points about programmes set for series record and not all instances being picked up for recording I appreciate the reply that different series have to be set separately. However there is a new series of The Real Hustle on called Real Hustle High Stakes. This is the only series of this programme called High Stakes. It picks up a few of them but misses some as well. Is my machine not working properly?

danny999911 05-12-2008 16:03

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I think i have it, the real hustle high stakes is only on thursday evenings. There are many repeats on BBC 3 as well, but it is only actually on once a week. I know this because I watch it.

This is your V+ box being clever!

Is this OK?

superhoops 05-12-2008 18:55

Re: Series Record Didnt Work
 
Hi and thanks for the reply. Are you saying that the v+ doesn't record repeats?

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My experiences with the v+ is getting worse. Last night I deleted some of my planned series
as I realised I was down to only about 20 hours left out the original 80 hours. I have just realised that doing so has deleted all the recorded programmes from those series records. My 9 year old will go mental when he sees all the "Galactic Football"s I had for him have gone. All my "Air Crash Investigation" and "Street Crime UK" have gone!!! Surely that can't be right?? One off recordings are still there.Ughhh

JethroUK 06-12-2008 20:18

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Wicked_and_Crazy (Post 34688219)
having live TV on pause and trying to record two programmes would be your problem. The V+ can only record two things at once....

Where abouts did you get this idea from?

It's wrong anyway

VM can record two channels (with 2 tuners) and pause/rewind with the 3rd tuner



.

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Quote:

Originally Posted by superhoops (Post 34688215)
...Does having the tv on pause stop one of the two recordings from starting?..

No

Quote:

Originally Posted by superhoops (Post 34688220)
..I must remember that as I use pause live tv quite a lot. Should it put a warning up on the screen that a planned recording can't start? ...

Nope

.

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Quote:

Originally Posted by superhoops (Post 34688223)
...A strange thing- As a test I have just started to record 2 programs and then paused live tv - and they all worked!

It's designed to work that way

where you can have a problem is where you have two consequtive recordings on same channel & third recording on another channel - V+ tries to overlap the consequtive recordings (e.g. record three things at once) which it cant do

feel sure this issue was fixed in an update some time ago
.

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Wicked_and_Crazy (Post 34688493)
If you have
Tuner 1 on pause
Tuner 2 recording a 2 hour programme
Tuner 3 recording 2 * 1 hour programmes end to end

With the overlap of the program recordings on tuner 3 (even though they're end to end) this can cause recordings to fail. I've seen it fail on mine but i've also seen it work so haven't worked out the critical factor yet.

You've introduced another variable now (the overlap)

suffice it to say V+ can record 2 things and still pause with 3rd tuner

danny999911 07-12-2008 16:52

Re: Series Record Didnt Work
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by superhoops (Post 34690355)
Hi and thanks for the reply. Are you saying that the v+ doesn't record repeats?

It knows what are repeats and what are not, so if you set series record to one of the repeats it will record all reapeats. These are repeated all the time so you will end up with loads of the same program. If you set the new one to record, it will set all new ones to record, once a week.

JethroUK 07-12-2008 19:05

Re: Series Record Didnt Work
 
V+ box actually "knows" nothing

All series links are manually set up and they try to set them up so it doesn't include repeats (they have a seperate series link)

If you think a series link is setup wrong there is a thread somewhere that you can report it to the guys and they fix it

.

superhoops 07-12-2008 21:26

Re: Series Record Didnt Work
 
Thanks for all your replies guys. Does this mean that say I want every episode of Aircrash Investigation, of which there have been several series, I need to trawl through the guide looking out for when it is on and set series record for all the ones that are not now highlighted. Not an easy job when there is no way to search for a programme (why is that, although to be fair you couldn't search on my sky+ box either).
Can anyone shed any light on my other problem of losing dozens of recorded programmes when I deleted the "planned series" entries for some of them. i.e I deleted the series record entry for "Galactic Football" because there were getting too many of them and my son wasn't hardly watching them - as a result about 20 episodes of it disappeared from my recorded programmes. (Also several other programmes suffered the same fate). Thanks guys

JethroUK 07-12-2008 22:39

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Quote:

Originally Posted by superhoops (Post 34691957)
...Does this mean that say I want every episode of Aircrash Investigation, of which there have been several series, I need to trawl through the guide looking out for when it is on and set series record for all the ones that are not now highlighted. ...

I can save you some time here - according to http://www.radiotimes.com & http://www.tvgenius.co.uk/ there are no episodes of Aircrash Investigation at all

Quote:

Originally Posted by superhoops (Post 34691957)
......there is no way to search for a programme (why is that, although to be fair you couldn't search on my sky+ box either)...

V+ EPG is only useful if you know what you want and where to look - crap really - i use my old PVR just for EPG searching - you need to look on line @ Radio Times or TV Genius, etc

Quote:

Originally Posted by superhoops (Post 34691957)
...Can anyone shed any light on my other problem of losing dozens of recorded programmes when I deleted the "planned series" entries

You must have deleted the "recorded" series and not the "planned" series - and that is the way it's designed to work - it's a god send and saves you deleting dozens of episodes seperately - but of course you need to be careful not to mix them both up - albeit it does issue a warning before deleting them
.

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superhoops 07-12-2008 23:22

Re: Series Record Didnt Work
 
Thanks for your reply. Interesting that you say I deleted the recorded series rather than the planned series. Must be more careful!!

Actually Air crash Investigation is on every day this week(and every week gone by for years) - National Geographic

JethroUK 07-12-2008 23:49

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I spelled Aircrash as one word and it shouldv'e been two:

here

I can see the series link would be difficult to set up because there doesn't see to be any pattern to the viewing order/repeats

I had the same when i was watching haunting and posted the problem here

I posted that i would rather delete repeats than miss an episode and in the next few days they had create a series link to record all episodes


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