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sir_drinks_alot 01-12-2008 21:01

bbc Sports Personality of the year 2008
 
In any other year there would be a stand out winner but this year any one of about 5 people Could win the thing.


If you ask me Rebecca Adlington should win just for the things she managed to do at the 08 Games yes i know Hamilton did great things.but he had more help along the way than Adlington For that along she should win.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/tv_a...ar/7751044.stm

Wicked_and_Crazy 01-12-2008 21:05

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I hope Hamilton doesnt win it, there are people that have put more effort in over a longer period of time to get what they won at the olympics. I'm not saying Hamilton isn't talented, i just think F1 isn't a fair playing field.

Perhaps this should have been a poll ;)

Kymmy 01-12-2008 21:33

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Good idea if the OP agrees?? Shall we add a poll to this thread to end on the 13th???

The final list is
  • Rebecca Adlington
  • Nicole Cooke
  • Chris Hoy
  • Rebecca Romero
  • Bradley Wiggins
  • Ben Ainslie
  • Christine Ohuruogu
  • Lewis Hamilton
  • Joe Calzaghe
  • Andy Murray

Wicked_and_Crazy 01-12-2008 21:38

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sounds good to me

Russ 01-12-2008 21:41

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Joe Calzaghe all the way.

idi banashapan 01-12-2008 22:48

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hamilton without a doubt. he has an undeniable talent behind the wheel and has only improved it by racing since he was a young lad. he's done outstandingly well over his first 2 seasons in the top flight, becoming world champion in only his second season.

SB_07 01-12-2008 22:50

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Originally Posted by Russ B (Post 34687180)
Joe Calzaghe all the way.

I agree, Joe has become a true legend this year.

Wicked_and_Crazy 01-12-2008 22:50

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Originally Posted by Bender (Post 34687292)
hamilton without a doubt. he has an undeniable talent behind the wheel and has only improved it by racing since he was a young lad. he's done outstandingly well over his first 2 seasons in the top flight, becoming world champion in only his second season.


which of course would have also happened if he was in the Williams :rolleyes:

Hom3r 01-12-2008 23:03

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My money is on Hamilton

homealone 01-12-2008 23:27

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Originally Posted by Hom3r (Post 34687318)
My money is on Hamilton

personally if choosing a candidate from F1 I would prefer David Coulthard, I think it would be a fitting tribute to a man who showed himself to be a true gentleman during his career ???

Hom3r 01-12-2008 23:31

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Nice to see para-olympians on the list :rolleyes:

sir_drinks_alot 02-12-2008 08:05

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Hom3r (Post 34687378)
Nice to see para-olympians on the list :rolleyes:

that's a joke right thay put in so much hard work to get to where thay are far more than any footballer or boxer

soup dragon 02-12-2008 09:55

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Andy Murray?? sports PERSONALITY?:confused:

Saaf_laandon_mo 02-12-2008 10:21

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Originally Posted by soup dragon (Post 34687566)
Andy Murray?? sports PERSONALITY?:confused:

You can stuff the same about Hamilton then. If Hamilton Wins they should also give his car an award.

I'd say Calzage. Why is Amir Khan not on the list? Not saying I'd vote for him but I know plenty that would.

Kymmy 02-12-2008 10:24

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Originally Posted by Saaf_laandon_mo (Post 34687570)
You can stuff the same about Hamilton then. If Hamilton Wins they should also give his car an award.

So if you were in Hamiltons car you could have beat Massa to the championship as well??? ;) :p:

Saaf_laandon_mo 02-12-2008 10:32

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Originally Posted by Kymmy (Post 34687574)
So if you were in Hamiltons car you could have beat Massa to the championship as well??? ;) :p:

nope, but if i was as good as massa and was in Hamilton's car then I would have finished second in the championship.

If on the other hand I had Hamilton's car AND a german mate who probably has some friends at mercedes, who drops 15 seconds on the last corner of his lap, pulling over to allow me to pass through, then I would have finished first in the championship!

Shadow Demon UK 02-12-2008 12:35

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Saaf_laandon_mo (Post 34687570)
I'd say Calzage. Why is Amir Khan not on the list? Not saying I'd vote for him but I know plenty that would.


What, Amir 'glass chin' Khan? I don't think he's more deserving than any person on that list by some distance.

Wicked_and_Crazy 02-12-2008 12:55

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Originally Posted by Kymmy (Post 34687574)
So if you were in Hamiltons car you could have beat Massa to the championship as well??? ;) :p:

so he won a 2 horse race, big deal ;)

ShaneC 02-12-2008 14:47

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pfft, where are the darts players? true sports heroes.

Saaf_laandon_mo 02-12-2008 15:58

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ShaneC (Post 34687694)
pfft, where are the darts players? true sports heroes.

Well I have to agree that there are more personalities in darts then other sports. Thats the problem with this award, personality gets mixed up with 'have they won something lately' or 'are they in a mainstream sport'.

idi banashapan 02-12-2008 20:04

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Saaf_laandon_mo (Post 34687577)
nope, but if i was as good as massa and was in Hamilton's car then I would have finished second in the championship.

If on the other hand I had Hamilton's car AND a german mate who probably has some friends at mercedes, who drops 15 seconds on the last corner of his lap, pulling over to allow me to pass through, then I would have finished first in the championship!

wow - that's a serious beef against Hamilton there!! Just so you know, over the last few seasons, FIA has changed its meaning to Ferrari International Aid, meaning any decision involving Ferrari seemed to go Ferraris way. So first off, Hamilton had that to condend with.

Secondly, his German 'friend' who you feel 'pulled over' was actually on Dry tyres in increasingly wet (becoming downpour) condition. I challenge you to put 700bhp on a very wet road on tyres that have around 10% of the grip they would in conditions they were designed for and keep the car in a straight line, let alone getting over the finish line.

Hom3r 02-12-2008 20:15

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Quote:

Originally Posted by sir_drinks_alot (Post 34687536)
that's a joke right thay put in so much hard work to get to where thay are far more than any footballer or boxer

I am thats why I put :rolleyes:.

Eleanor Simmonds the 13 year old who got 2 gold & a silver, not a mention

demented 02-12-2008 20:28

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I'd say Nicole Cooke. Has done plenty riding for team GB in various Road Championships, Commonwealth Games and Olympic glory. She's far more successful than any of the male cyclists we've ever produced and proven she can win different events.

Saaf_laandon_mo 02-12-2008 20:30

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Bender (Post 34687948)
wow - that's a serious beef against Hamilton there!! Just so you know, over the last few seasons, FIA has changed its meaning to Ferrari International Aid, meaning any decision involving Ferrari seemed to go Ferraris way. So first off, Hamilton had that to condend with.

Secondly, his German 'friend' who you feel 'pulled over' was actually on Dry tyres in increasingly wet (becoming downpour) condition. I challenge you to put 700bhp on a very wet road on tyres that have around 10% of the grip they would in conditions they were designed for and keep the car in a straight line, let alone getting over the finish line.

I am well aware of the tyres he was running. Come on, his german mate drove the previous lap in the wet at a much faster pace, and even if you allow for a bit more tyre wear, i dont recall the weather becoming worse for that final lap - and definately not changing into a downpour as compared to the previous lap. Even the commentators were suprised that he had lost so much time in the last corner. The car didnt spin out of control, to me it looked like he virtually came to a standstill. He probably has free Mercedes servicing for life as a result of his inability to finish the lap at a reasonable pace even for a car with dry tyres in the rain.

demented 02-12-2008 20:34

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Hmmm that's very strange mo because earlier in the race there was bad weather and the cars that were worst affected were Toyotas. So bad infact that Glock's team mate was sliding around like crazy and nearly took off a couple of the competitors (which would have been very handy for hamilton). It was a crazy gamble but the same behaviour had been observed earlier in the race: the toyotas were appalling in those conditions.

Saaf_laandon_mo 02-12-2008 20:38

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Quote:

Originally Posted by demented (Post 34687968)
Hmmm that's very strange mo because earlier in the race there was bad weather and the cars that were worst affected were Toyotas. So bad infact that Glock's team mate was sliding around like crazy and nearly took off a couple of the competitors (which would have been very handy for hamilton). It was a crazy gamble but the same behaviour had been observed earlier in the race: the toyotas were appalling in those conditions.

Did you see the time he put in for is last but one lap..... again in the rain? Going into that last corner he was going around the track faster tham Hamilton, who made no real gain from his second to last lap to his last.

Anyway, I dont think Hamilton deserved the championship and, bringing the subject back on topic, I definately don't think he deserves to win Sports Personality of the Year. His dad showed more personality, maybe he should be on the list.

Kymmy 02-12-2008 21:48

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Poll added with OP's permission

yesman 14-12-2008 01:09

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Good to see the Beeb recognise one of football's "gentlemen*

Quote:

Sir Bobby Charlton will be honoured with the 2008 BBC Sports Personality's Lifetime Achievement award on Sunday.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/tv_a...ar/7775752.stm

frogstamper 14-12-2008 01:26

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ShaneC (Post 34687694)
pfft, where are the darts players? true sports heroes.

The two true sporting hero's of darts were Gryff Rhys Jones and Mel Smith's, Fat Belly and Eee Fat Gut-Bucket in their portrayal of a "drinking darts match" in Not the Nine o'clock News, Brilliant stuff.

Russ 14-12-2008 01:47

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Quote:

Originally Posted by yesman (Post 34696289)
Good to see the Beeb recognise one of football's "gentlemen*



http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/tv_a...ar/7775752.stm

Truly an iconic hairstyle.

MovedGoalPosts 14-12-2008 02:01

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It takes one to know one Russ :p:

punky 14-12-2008 02:16

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Quote:

Originally Posted by yesman (Post 34696289)
Good to see the Beeb recognise one of football's "gentlemen*



http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/tv_a...ar/7775752.stm

Excellent choice :clap: I don't know how many non-Man U fans know this, but he's served on the Man U board for decades and attends every home game.

:noworthy:

Hom3r 14-12-2008 22:00

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Hamilton was robbed :(

---------- Post added at 21:00 ---------- Previous post was at 21:00 ----------

Hoy won.

SB_07 14-12-2008 22:12

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Calzaghe wasn't even in the top 3? What a joke.

soup dragon 14-12-2008 22:19

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i think the fact that there were only 9 votes in this poll tells you that it is not what it used to be.

Maggy 15-12-2008 00:04

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Well this non sporty person thought that it was a very close event this year.Tis a pity that there can only be one winner because they all deserved to win..in any other year they all would have been worthy.

How many years lately has there been too few outstanding sports men and women then in one year there are more than you can shake a trophy at?

Caff 15-12-2008 02:08

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Originally Posted by Maggy J (Post 34696914)
Well this non sporty person thought that it was a very close event this year.Tis a pity that there can only be one winner because they all deserved to win..in any other year they all would have been worthy.

How many years lately has there been too few outstanding sports men and women then in one year there are more than you can shake a trophy at?


True!
And good to see the Olympians have their moments again.
My vote was with Adlington... and I wonder how many voters took 'Sporting personality of the year' into consideration.
What the heck... it was great to watch Hoy bringing home the gold too. :D

sk8er_boi6000 16-12-2008 00:43

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Being an F1 fan I would have voted for Lewis, but Chris Hoy is totally deserving as well, excellent achievement.

frogstamper 17-12-2008 00:03

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As mentioned above by Coggy, in any other year the award could have gone to any of the top six, I feel though overall the choice of Hoy was correct...three gold medals in one Olympics a worthy winner indeed.
As regards the others in my opinion it was going to be between Adlinton, Calzaghe, Hamilton and Hoy, all had a truly remarkable year.
One thing that does make me smile is the title sports "personality", then Andy Murray.;)

Caff 19-12-2008 01:51

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Originally Posted by frogstamper (Post 34698530)
As mentioned above by Coggy, in any other year the award could have gone to any of the top six, I feel though overall the choice of Hoy was correct...three gold medals in one Olympics a worthy winner indeed.
As regards the others in my opinion it was going to be between Adlinton, Calzaghe, Hamilton and Hoy, all had a truly remarkable year.
One thing that does make me smile is the title sports "personality", then Andy Murray.;)

Ah - but he has spririt and passion; and we may become proud of him yet !:)
Calzaghe, I am reliably informed (not a fan of out-and-out contact sport), should have had a better appreciation, Hamilton has a few years to acclaim the title..... and - I just really liked Adlington.......
Hoy seems to me to be a quiet and committed stalwart and am glad he was recognised.


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