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vmuser027 03-11-2008 13:05

Two Modems?
 
Hi,

Had a new Ambit 256 from Virgin last week as my old one was under performing. The Ambit is now all working fine after phoning virgin and activating it.

Yesterday i plugged my old modem into my TV cable at the same time as having my new modem online.

I was stunned to find that both of the modems are working and I have two 20Meg lines!!!

Why is this? Do i need to phone virgin and tell that they have forgotten to de-authorize it or does it take a while for them to de-register the old one?

Thanks

whydoIneedatech 03-11-2008 13:08

Re: Two Modems?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by vmuser027 (Post 34667224)
Hi,

Had a new Ambit 256 from Virgin last week as my old one was under performing. The Ambit is now all working fine after phoning virgin and activating it.

Yesterday i plugged my old modem into my TV cable at the same time as having my new modem online.

I was stunned to find that both of the modems are working and I have two 20Meg lines!!!

Why is this? Do i need to phone virgin and tell that they have forgotten to de-authorize it or does it take a while for them to de-register the old one?

Thanks

Well ringing up is down to you as that modem should be inactive and unable to receive any signal.

But you would probably hit STM a lot quicker:D

xspeedyx 03-11-2008 13:11

Re: Two Modems?
 
The only think I can think of is the activation team havent removed the old modem from the equipment screen

whydoIneedatech 03-11-2008 13:14

Re: Two Modems?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by darthlinux (Post 34667234)
The only think I can think of is the activation team havent removed the old modem from the equipment screen

I am shocked:shocked: imagine that happening:D

xspeedyx 03-11-2008 13:17

Re: Two Modems?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by whydoIneedatech (Post 34667241)
I am shocked:shocked: imagine that happening:D

Never does I am sooooooooo shocked:shocked:

Fatec 03-11-2008 13:34

Re: Two Modems?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by darthlinux (Post 34667243)
Never does I am sooooooooo shocked:shocked:

Ah sarcasm, oh the joy of it! ;)

*cough* wingate *cough* ;)

vmuser027 03-11-2008 13:45

Re: Two Modems?
 
Well on my normal 20Meg line I was STM'd anyway so i plugged this old one in to see and it was a full 20Meg line without STM.

zing_deleted 03-11-2008 13:54

Re: Two Modems?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by whydoIneedatech (Post 34667227)
Well ringing up is down to you as that modem should be inactive and unable to receive any signal.

But you would probably hit STM a lot quicker:D

why would he ? As each modem will have its own mac and will surely both be subject to their own STM so your getting double . So if both used at once STM time would be the same if one after the other STM time would double

techyguy4 03-11-2008 20:51

Re: Two Modems?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by darthlinux (Post 34667234)
The only think I can think of is the activation team havent removed the old modem from the equipment screen

Not removing the modem from EQ screen will not make any difference because only one modem will have the correct occurence. I think OP is
from ex-ntl area and that modem is picking up the activation through old billing system.

Anyways now OP can exceed the STM limit twice.;)

Kiryu 03-11-2008 21:20

Re: Two Modems?
 
how is that possible thou? wouldnt both modems be using the same DL/UL frequencies on the line? there technically would be a conflict if that. Just like trying to run 2 ADSL modems on the same phone line O_O

DocDutch 03-11-2008 21:27

Re: Two Modems?
 
kiryu not really as 1 modem is connected normally whilst the other going over the tv line. so yeah you can run 2 modems at the same time, problem is to connect both to your pc at the same time

vmuser027 03-11-2008 21:29

Re: Two Modems?
 
Hi,

Im in an ex-Telewest area, not NTL.

I have two laptops so one was going through the wireless on my normal connection and the other laptop was directly connected to the old modem.

Kiryu 04-11-2008 00:24

Re: Two Modems?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by DocDutch (Post 34667640)
kiryu not really as 1 modem is connected normally whilst the other going over the tv line. so yeah you can run 2 modems at the same time, problem is to connect both to your pc at the same time

i beg to disagree as the tv line shares the modem line through a splitter into your home. AFAIK and from reading previous technical docs on the docsis standard, tv channels use frequencies different than the modem for internet. the modems are already set to specific frequencies which are non selectable by the user, so from what i see, a modem may sync but only 1 modem can actually transmit/recieve traffic at any given time.

the only time it would be possible if VM provisioned unused frequencies for the 2nd CM which I read on US forums that some cable co's do in the US. But your bandwidth usually gets limited (ie: 30mb/4mb down to 15mb/2) which only really is splitting the frequency.

whydoIneedatech 04-11-2008 07:08

Re: Two Modems?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by David F (Post 34667272)
why would he ? As each modem will have its own mac and will surely both be subject to their own STM so your getting double . So if both used at once STM time would be the same if one after the other STM time would double

May have different macs but will be on the one account so would hit SRM quicker, it would be nice but it does not work like that.

Noggo 04-11-2008 13:48

Re: Two Modems?
 
Damn, just dust off the old SB4100 and it doesn't connect.
boooooooo :D

Turkey Machine 04-11-2008 15:01

Re: Two Modems?
 
Still got the 250. I might give this a go! :D

whydoIneedatech 04-11-2008 15:04

Re: Two Modems?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Turkey Machine (Post 34668040)
Still got the 250. I might give this a go! :D

Remember if it did work you would probably hit STM in half the time:D

Turkey Machine 04-11-2008 16:39

Re: Two Modems?
 
Ya know what? It does! :D Granted, it's only an "extra" 2Mbit, but every little helps! ;) Am gonna see later on if it helps downloads, but in all honesty, 512 + 200 up is (just about) the same as what the 20Mbit tariff gets.

---------- Post added at 16:39 ---------- Previous post was at 16:01 ----------

It's about this time that my wireless goes tits up. Everyone elses is fine, mine isn't. :(

Wicked_and_Crazy 04-11-2008 18:08

Re: Two Modems?
 
Why do VM send out a new modem if you have a slow connection? I called them yesterday as i had a poor connection and they instantly said, we will send you a new modem! I can't belive it's in their interests to send out new modems willy nilly like this

whydoIneedatech 04-11-2008 18:54

Re: Two Modems?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Wicked_and_Crazy (Post 34668277)
Why do VM send out a new modem if you have a slow connection? I called them yesterday as i had a poor connection and they instantly said, we will send you a new modem! I can't belive it's in their interests to send out new modems willy nilly like this

What size package and what model modem have you presently got.

Turkey Machine 04-11-2008 20:57

Re: Two Modems?
 
OK, a quick update on the 2 modems situation: this gives me a great upload when using BitTorrent: 712Kbit up, 12Mbit down. There are 2 separate IP addresses, 2 different cpcx numbers, 2 different custxxx numbers, so it's 2 separate connections.

Awesome! :D

Joxer 05-11-2008 10:49

Re: Two Modems?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Turkey Machine (Post 34668478)
OK, a quick update on the 2 modems situation: this gives me a great upload when using BitTorrent: 712Kbit up, 12Mbit down. There are 2 separate IP addresses, 2 different cpcx numbers, 2 different custxxx numbers, so it's 2 separate connections.

Awesome! :D

It is also technically theft, though you are unlikely to be prosecuted for it as it is VMs fault.

Turkey Machine 05-11-2008 14:20

Re: Two Modems?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Joxer (Post 34669008)
It is also technically theft, though you are unlikely to be prosecuted for it as it is VMs fault.

Exactly. If VM won't disconnect the modem from the network, or blacklist the MAC of the modem, why's it still giving me a connection? I doubt they'd want it back, it's such an old modem! Looks like its heading for the loft. :angel:


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