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cogoni 21-10-2008 20:37

How many mbs per second should 10mb broad band download?
 
I know it depends. But trying to download a file with 10mb broadband is about 1 meg per second, is that right?

chickendippers 21-10-2008 20:40

Re: How many mbs per second should 10mb broad band download?
 
10mb internet will mean you download a 1MB file in 1 second.

Jonnymeg 21-10-2008 20:46

Re: How many mbs per second should 10mb broad band download?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by chickendippers (Post 34658436)
10mb internet will mean you download a 1MB file in 1 second.

Is it not 1.25MB in a second?

whydoIneedatech 21-10-2008 20:49

Re: How many mbs per second should 10mb broad band download?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by cogoni (Post 34658431)
I know it depends. But trying to download a file with 10mb broadband is about 1 meg per second, is that right?

Speeds via gamefiles.virginmedia.com should be approx.

i.e : 250kBps X 8 = 2MB, 500kBps X 8 = 4MB, 1250kBps X 8 = 10MB, 2500kBps X 8 = 20MB

AbyssUnderground 21-10-2008 21:02

Re: How many mbs per second should 10mb broad band download?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jonnymeg (Post 34658444)
Is it not 1.25MB in a second?

You generally should see about 1.15MB/s - 1.20MB/s tops.

dave6x 21-10-2008 22:20

Re: How many mbs per second should 10mb broad band download?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by whydoIneedatech (Post 34658448)
Speeds via gamefiles.virginmedia.com should be approx.

i.e : 250kbps X 8 = 2MB, 500kbps X 8 = 4MB, 1250kbps X 8 = 10MB, 2500kbps X 8 = 20MB

I suggest you need to be more careful with the symbols relating to the multipliers, e.g.
250kbps x 8 = 2Mb = 0.25MB
250kBps x 8 = 2MB
where b represents bits and B represents bytes

Noggo 21-10-2008 23:17

Re: How many mbs per second should 10mb broad band download?
 
Google it
`10 Mb/s to MB/s'
and google calculator says......

See Jonnymegs reply above :tu:

Ignitionnet 21-10-2008 23:45

Re: How many mbs per second should 10mb broad band download?
 
Yer but you'll never actually see that speed when downloading due to overheads on the connection.

1.20MB/s is about right, as a rule of thumb each Mbit is worth 120kB in real world download, if you get a little more that's a bonus.

Jonnymeg 22-10-2008 18:50

Re: How many mbs per second should 10mb broad band download?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Broadbandings (Post 34658571)
Yer but you'll never actually see that speed when downloading due to overheads on the connection.

1.20MB/s is about right, as a rule of thumb each Mbit is worth 120kB in real world download, if you get a little more that's a bonus.

I regularly see 2.6MB/s on my 20meg.

xspeedyx 22-10-2008 18:59

Re: How many mbs per second should 10mb broad band download?
 
max I have seen is 2.4Mb/s

cg1701 22-10-2008 20:11

Re: How many mbs per second should 10mb broad band download?
 
Would be nice TO get a 10meg service!!!!! I get around 6, and according to Virgin THAT IS the 10meg service!!!

I know you can never get the full 10meg, but I would have though you would be able to get around 8 at the very least...

I pay for 10 I want 10 NOT 6!!! Anyone else find this?

1too3 22-10-2008 22:03

Re: How many mbs per second should 10mb broad band download?
 
I think it also depends on which sites/servers are serving you, they will throttle their connections etc also. A quick test is to open multiple sites at the same time and do multiple downloads, that will test your overall throughput through the network to your PC. It's all much of a muchness. Also any download from the local Virgin network is likely to be quicker I'm sure, again depending on link speeds.

whydoIneedatech 22-10-2008 23:36

Re: How many mbs per second should 10mb broad band download?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by darthlinux (Post 34659081)
max I have seen is 2.4Mb/s

The Max I have seen is 3.2MB using gamefiles.

and downloading 10 files at once.

dave6x 22-10-2008 23:42

Re: How many mbs per second should 10mb broad band download?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by whydoIneedatech (Post 34659437)
The Max I have seen is 3.2Mb using gamefiles.

Pretty poor then for a 20Mb connection, unless you really mean that you are getting 3.2MB/s! :)

Kymmy 22-10-2008 23:43

Re: How many mbs per second should 10mb broad band download?
 
I get 1.2MBps every day and at all times...

whydoIneedatech 22-10-2008 23:46

Re: How many mbs per second should 10mb broad band download?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by dave6x (Post 34659441)
Pretty poor then for a 20Mb connection, unless you really mean that you are getting 3.2MB/s! :)

I.........Meant .........................3.2MB now that is fast.................................:D

dave6x 22-10-2008 23:56

Re: How many mbs per second should 10mb broad band download?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by whydoIneedatech (Post 34659446)
I.........Meant .........................3.2MB now that is fast.................................:D

Yes it sure is!

Sorry to be pedantic, but confusing bits and bytes is a common mistake and I'm sure it was just a typo!

boroboi 22-10-2008 23:57

Re: How many mbs per second should 10mb broad band download?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by cg1701 (Post 34659136)
Would be nice TO get a 10meg service!!!!! I get around 6, and according to Virgin THAT IS the 10meg service!!!

I know you can never get the full 10meg, but I would have though you would be able to get around 8 at the very least...

I pay for 10 I want 10 NOT 6!!! Anyone else find this?

Fortunately for me, i've never seen a degredation in service unless i've been STM'd.

I get a constant 10MB service at all times.. well, around 9.8

Druchii 23-10-2008 11:23

Re: How many mbs per second should 10mb broad band download?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by whydoIneedatech (Post 34659446)
I.........Meant .........................3.2MB now that is fast.................................:D

Bit slow for me ;)

whydoIneedatech 23-10-2008 11:29

Re: How many mbs per second should 10mb broad band download?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Druchii (Post 34659635)
Bit slow for me ;)

Show off:D

Jonathan90 23-10-2008 11:32

Re: How many mbs per second should 10mb broad band download?
 
Whydoineedatech how did u get that speed?

whydoIneedatech 23-10-2008 11:35

Re: How many mbs per second should 10mb broad band download?
 
By running this speed test and I managed to get 10 files open, and added their transfer rates together.

My connection here in Knowsley is Rock Solid.

-------------------------------------------------------------

If you are a Virgin Media customer then the best speedtest is from the link below.

Have you tried going to this link to check your speeds http://gamefiles.virginmedia.com/

click on blueyondergames>demos>then click on at least 2 large files around 400/500 mb and save them to your desktop, and then wait a couple of minutes then write down the transfer rates on the files that are running > times them by 8 and you will get a truer download speed.

Remember to stop and delete the files.



i.e : 250kBps X 8 = 2MB, 500kBps X 8 = 4MB, 1250kBps X 8 = 10MB, 2500kBps X 8 = 20MB
-----------------------------------------------------------

Ignitionnet 23-10-2008 12:23

Re: How many mbs per second should 10mb broad band download?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jonnymeg (Post 34659071)
I regularly see 2.6MB/s on my 20meg.

Misreported. If it's not a large enough download you get some prefetch effect.

Download http://fuller.zen.co.uk/test/ 100MB version, it'll likely settle around 2.4MB/s.

---------- Post added at 11:23 ---------- Previous post was at 11:22 ----------

Quote:

Originally Posted by whydoIneedatech (Post 34659648)
By running this speed test and I managed to get 10 files open, and added their transfer rates together.

My connection here in Knowsley is Rock Solid.

Also misreported, likely reporting partly cached speeds or average speed across transfer, try it again and have something like Netmeter running. It'll show you throughput more accurately and it won't break, or even reach probably, 20Mbit.

Regardless of how solid or otherwise your connection is the nasty CMTS won't let you break 20Mbit however many downloads you have running, it shapes on IP level not TCP level so number of connections irrelevant, and as people STM'd can attest to its' rate limiting is quite accurate. :)

Roll on next year and my move, see how many connections it takes to hit the 14.4MB/s my connection should reach.

Jonnymeg 23-10-2008 17:54

Re: How many mbs per second should 10mb broad band download?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Broadbandings (Post 34659684)
Misreported. If it's not a large enough download you get some prefetch effect.

Download http://fuller.zen.co.uk/test/ 100MB version, it'll likely settle around 2.4MB/s.

You may have misunderstood what i was saying. I meant i get 2.6MB/s on my 20meg connection NOT a 20meg download.

I regularly download posts from usenet in-excess of 10gb in 50-100meg chunks so i don't think your assumption is correct.
I measure the throughput on a dedicated piece of software (mac) on my machine.

Look at the image below, this is a screen grab. Ignore the Speedtest.net bit as i was just using this to show how badly some sites report speeds.
Look ion the top right corner and you will see the throughput speed from the downloads. There was nothing else running at the time, there was no additional network traffic - just the download.


http://homepage.ntlworld.com/j.speed.../speedtest.jpg

CHiLL 23-10-2008 18:43

Re: How many mbs per second should 10mb broad band download?
 
On my 10MB connection, I can get 1.2MB/s at maximum when it's decent. But during the evenings and weekends, I struggle to get near 3MB.

Ignitionnet 23-10-2008 18:59

Re: How many mbs per second should 10mb broad band download?
 
It wasn't an assumption just a statement of fact sir. Even assuming no overheads or other inefficiency at all you won't get above 2.56MB/s from a 20480000 bit/s connection.

20.48Mbit/s / 8 = 2.56Mbyte/s maximum IP throughput.

Not sure if giving a DVD rip of a movie is a wise choice of an example either :D

r00t 23-10-2008 19:03

Re: How many mbs per second should 10mb broad band download?
 
1 Attachment(s)
Conversion tool for you to play with :)

<edit> nm, can't use this type file </edit>
<edit2> change from .txt to .html <edit2>

whydoIneedatech 23-10-2008 19:07

Re: How many mbs per second should 10mb broad band download?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by r00t (Post 34659961)
Conversion tool for you to play with :)

Where is it, are we bored tonight:D

Fatec 23-10-2008 19:22

Re: How many mbs per second should 10mb broad band download?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Druchii (Post 34659635)
Bit slow for me ;)

Slow users like you should not even grace the internet ;)

*whistle*

http://img125.imageshack.us/img125/1...rallkf5yz0.jpg

Jonnymeg 23-10-2008 19:31

Re: How many mbs per second should 10mb broad band download?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Broadbandings (Post 34659959)
It wasn't an assumption just a statement of fact sir. Even assuming no overheads or other inefficiency at all you won't get above 2.56MB/s from a 20480000 bit/s connection.

And the Titantic was unsinkable.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Broadbandings (Post 34659959)

Not sure if giving a DVD rip of a movie is a wise choice of an example either :D

It was a Hi Def cooking video.

whydoIneedatech 23-10-2008 20:11

Re: How many mbs per second should 10mb broad band download?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jonnymeg (Post 34659979)
It was a Hi Def cooking video.

Your description is not inaccurate as it was about a Rat that becomes a Chef:D:D

Ignitionnet 23-10-2008 22:15

Re: How many mbs per second should 10mb broad band download?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jonnymeg (Post 34659979)
And the Titantic was unsinkable.

It was a Hi Def cooking video.

Well I've years of standards, the SCTE, the ITU and whomever else behind me so whatever really. If you've a connection that both breaks the cable standards and mathematics than I applaud you :)

books 24-10-2008 01:56

Re: How many mbs per second should 10mb broad band download?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by cg1701 (Post 34659136)
Would be nice TO get a 10meg service!!!!! I get around 6, and according to Virgin THAT IS the 10meg service!!!

I know you can never get the full 10meg, but I would have though you would be able to get around 8 at the very least...

I pay for 10 I want 10 NOT 6!!! Anyone else find this?

Lots of people find that. It's just the way it is. They can get away with it because they advertise it as "up to". As far as I know, all ISP's do the same thing.

Quote:

Originally Posted by chill (Post 34659955)
On my 10MB connection, I can get 1.2MB/s at maximum when it's decent. But during the evenings and weekends, I struggle to get near 3MB.

That should be Mbit by the way not MB. MB is megabyte and they are big. A 10MB connection would be insanely fast :)


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