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Danatthepub 19-10-2008 12:49

Problems connecting to certain websites
 
Hi guys,

Im having trouble connecting to BBC sports page. The front page seems ok as does the entertainment section. But the main news page and also the sports page i cannot connect to. Also there are a few random sites which seem to do the same thing.

With my very limited knowledge ive pinged news.bbc.co.uk and seems to come back fine with no packets lost.

Also tried another web browser and another computer and same thing happens. Rebooted the modem and virgin modem and no different.

Can anyone suggest anything?

Thanks

Dan

a owens 19-10-2008 13:37

Re: Problems connecting to certain websites
 
Yahoo.co.uk been slow/unavailable for me for several days .... all other websites fine ... notice it as it is my homepage ... irritating as preventing access to email account

Danatthepub 19-10-2008 13:40

Re: Problems connecting to certain websites
 
Strangely bbc is OK now.

Still, i cant get onto an internet forum that i use.

Just hope maybe it sorts it self out soon.

chickendippers 19-10-2008 15:56

Re: Problems connecting to certain websites
 
Run a tracert to the website in question, type:

tracert *website*

at the prompt (the same place you ran the ping test from).

Danatthepub 19-10-2008 20:15

Re: Problems connecting to certain websites
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by chickendippers (Post 34656965)
Run a tracert to the website in question, type:

tracert *website*

at the prompt (the same place you ran the ping test from).

I can run it and it says trace complete, but what does this do?

Thanks

jcuk 19-10-2008 20:44

Re: Problems connecting to certain websites
 
try accessing the specific sites through a web proxy to make sure its your connection specifically and not the site itself.

I get VM TSC were useless huh?

Tod 19-10-2008 22:59

Re: Problems connecting to certain websites
 
I could not get my yahoo mail without putting in a proxy in my internet settings - I used webcache.virginmedia.com on port 8080. Only then could I get my yahoo mail.

JPF 20-10-2008 09:54

Re: Problems connecting to certain websites
 
I too have had issues with Yahoo! mail, I added the proxy Tod detailed and it's OK again. Why is this? Normally, removing a proxy fixes problems like this - is it bad routing? Cheers.

John Purser 20-10-2008 19:20

Re: Problems connecting to certain websites
 
Jeez - I've tried everything to connect to www.joomlaxtc.com. Swapped out routers, rebooted, macs, pcs, iPhone, tried them all.
So, this could be down to VM?
I'm in Bournville, Birmingham. 20meg service. Any ideas?

Thanks JP

AppleSauce 20-10-2008 19:23

Re: Problems connecting to certain websites
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by John Purser (Post 34657673)
Jeez - I've tried everything to connect to www.joomlaxtc.com. Swapped out routers, rebooted, macs, pcs, iPhone, tried them all.
So, this could be down to VM?
I'm in Bournville, Birmingham. 20meg service. Any ideas?

Thanks JP

Works here, just slow at loading.

John Purser 20-10-2008 19:41

Re: Problems connecting to certain websites
 
Thanks for checking! When I try to access the site, it 'times out'....

Where are you based?

JP

tvout 20-10-2008 21:53

Re: Problems connecting to certain websites
 
I find it a real struggle with Yahoo Answers links that come up in searches. If I try in Firefox or Internet Explorer the page often takes forever to load...
Try this one for example:
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/in...0165702AA1j0Ne

Or even just going to:

http://answers.yahoo.com

Tod 20-10-2008 22:10

Re: Problems connecting to certain websites
 
Seems that the problem is fixed now, can access Yahoo mail with or without the proxy. Can access the above sites also.

tvout 20-10-2008 22:27

Re: Problems connecting to certain websites
 
I'm still getting "Transferring data from l.yimg.com" in Firefox... :(

Danatthepub 20-10-2008 22:53

Re: Problems connecting to certain websites
 
im having trouble connecting to www.avforums.com and www.ntsc-uk.com , which are both forums sites. Not sure whether that would have anything to do with it. These sites worked last week and i know that they are not down because i can access them at work.

Im in Stirchley Birmingham.

How would i go about setting up a proxy?

Thanks peeps

dave6x 20-10-2008 23:14

Re: Problems connecting to certain websites
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by tvout (Post 34657833)
I'm still getting "Transferring data from l.yimg.com" in Firefox... :(

I'm getting the same problems accessing Yahoo mail from VM/NTL broadband.

I also have an Orange PAYG Dial-up connection, that accesses the Yahoo mail servers OK.

tvout 20-10-2008 23:27

Re: Problems connecting to certain websites
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Danatthepub (Post 34657873)
im having trouble connecting to www.avforums.com and www.ntsc-uk.com , which are both forums sites. Not sure whether that would have anything to do with it. These sites worked last week and i know that they are not down because i can access them at work.

Im in Stirchley Birmingham.

How would i go about setting up a proxy?

Thanks peeps

Strange - I just tried both those sites and they loaded in a couple of seconds for me... I'm in the Dudley/Wolverhampton area on 10MB, not that far...

---------- Post added at 22:25 ---------- Previous post was at 22:22 ----------

Quote:

Originally Posted by dave6x (Post 34657902)
I'm getting the same problems accessing Yahoo mail from VM/NTL broadband.

I also have an Orange PAYG Dial-up connection, that accesses the Yahoo mail servers OK.

I can get on the http://mail.yahoo.com page ok (don't have an account though). I often have problems with www.flickr.com which I think is linked to Yahoo as you need a Yahoo id to log in...

---------- Post added at 22:27 ---------- Previous post was at 22:25 ----------

I can't log into flickr, again I'm getting the problem transferring data from l.yimg.com...
The main page loaded fine though.
I might see if I can get away with adding l.yimg.com to my hosts file to block it, I think it might be advertising or something...

I'm also using OpenDNS...

holtender_01 21-10-2008 02:03

Re: Problems connecting to certain websites
 
Hello Danatthepub and John Purser,
Good to see some local people on here... I am in Selly Park.

I too have been having some problems with accessing certain websites recently (since 19/10) especially 'twitter.com'
So it seems to be a VM local issue as I have heard of exactly the same problems with users in Kings Norton and Redditch.

What I had to do to resolve the problem was alter the MTU settings for my connection from the default 1500 to anywhere between 1400 and 1499. I chose 1400 and the previously affected websites now work perfectly.

I suggest you do the same and report back.
I can only imagine that with the recent upgrades that VM are doing everywhere something has changed which has caused the default 1500 setting to become unviable with some sites?

regards,
Thomas

Danatthepub 21-10-2008 17:45

Re: Problems connecting to certain websites
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by holtender_01 (Post 34657975)
Hello Danatthepub and John Purser,
Good to see some local people on here... I am in Selly Park.

I too have been having some problems with accessing certain websites recently (since 19/10) especially 'twitter.com'
So it seems to be a VM local issue as I have heard of exactly the same problems with users in Kings Norton and Redditch.

What I had to do to resolve the problem was alter the MTU settings for my connection from the default 1500 to anywhere between 1400 and 1499. I chose 1400 and the previously affected websites now work perfectly.

I suggest you do the same and report back.
I can only imagine that with the recent upgrades that VM are doing everywhere something has changed which has caused the default 1500 setting to become unviable with some sites?

regards,
Thomas

Hi Thomas,

Yep thats got it! :nworthy:

Thanks for your help with that. Also tried the proxy way aswell and that seems to work also.

Thanks for your help guys.

holtender_01 21-10-2008 18:06

Re: Problems connecting to certain websites
 
Danatthepub,
I tried the VM proxy however found that although It did work it hinder the speed so I carried on looked when I found the MTU solution!

Glad to be of help!

Thomas

ultimate 21-10-2008 20:55

Re: Problems connecting to certain websites
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by tvout (Post 34657833)
I'm still getting "Transferring data from l.yimg.com" in Firefox... :(

Me too!

Danatthepub 21-10-2008 21:55

Re: Problems connecting to certain websites
 
Ive just tried it and the first yahoo link seems to come up really fast. The second yahoo link seemed to tae about 4-5 seconds but still worked.

Have you tried this MTU solution?

ultimate 21-10-2008 22:22

Re: Problems connecting to certain websites
 
Changed MTU to 1498, and later 1400, same slowness.

Whatever it is its VM's problem and as such they have to fix it.

Thomas.Fisk 22-10-2008 06:00

Re: Problems connecting to certain websites
 
Oh, this again? I remember when some routing got lost at newton abbot like this. Do a traceroute to find out where things are misconfigured and then find out who needs to fix it..

ultimate 22-10-2008 08:40

Re: Problems connecting to certain websites
 
Its morning now and all the yahoo pages are loading up fast like lightning, we'll see how it goes later in the day.

John Purser 22-10-2008 13:12

Re: Problems connecting to certain websites
 
Changed my MTU settings and can now access those websites I couldn't access in the last couple of days.
Thank God for this forum.

Cheers guys...

tvout 22-10-2008 21:21

Re: Problems connecting to certain websites
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by holtender_01 (Post 34658289)
Danatthepub,
I tried the VM proxy however found that although It did work it hinder the speed so I carried on looked when I found the MTU solution!

Glad to be of help!

Thomas

I have changed my MTU from 1500 using TCP Optimizer down to 1450 and still having the same problem...

---------- Post added at 19:58 ---------- Previous post was at 19:54 ----------

Done tracerts to the two sites I'm having most trouble with at the moment:
1) answers.yahoo.com
Tracing route to feu.answers.yahoo8.akadns.net [209.73.187.220]

over a maximum of 30 hops:



1 1 ms <1 ms 1 ms 192.168.1.1

2 44 ms 9 ms 30 ms 10.21.56.1

3 11 ms 11 ms 8 ms osr01dudl-v11.network.virginmedia.net [62.31.176.129]

4 21 ms 18 ms 13 ms osr01wolv-tenge71.network.virginmedia.net [62.30.254.45]

5 15 ms 16 ms 16 ms man-bb-a-ge-130-0.network.virginmedia.net [195.182.178.65]

6 21 ms 18 ms 20 ms gfd-bb-b-so-200-0.network.virginmedia.net [62.252.192.94]

7 39 ms 32 ms 21 ms redb-ic-1-as0-0.network.virginmedia.net [62.253.185.78]

8 182 ms 171 ms 171 ms 83.245.9.226

9 595 ms 232 ms 195 ms ae1-p151.msr2.re1.yahoo.com [216.115.108.23]

10 174 ms 179 ms 174 ms gi1-22.bas-a1.re3.yahoo.com [68.142.238.65]

11 174 ms 199 ms 190 ms fe-us.answers.search.vip.re3.yahoo.com [209.73.187.220]



Trace complete.

2) www.flickr.com

Tracing route to www.flickr.vip.mud.yahoo.com [68.142.214.24]

over a maximum of 30 hops:



1 1 ms 1 ms <1 ms 192.168.1.1

2 42 ms 38 ms 11 ms 10.21.56.1

3 156 ms 203 ms 207 ms osr01dudl-v11.network.virginmedia.net [62.31.176.129]

4 30 ms 17 ms 18 ms osr02wolv-tenge71.network.virginmedia.net [62.30.254.65]

5 18 ms 25 ms 18 ms win-bb-b-ge-300-0.network.virginmedia.net [195.182.178.69]

6 17 ms 44 ms 19 ms win-bb-a-ae0-0.network.virginmedia.net [213.105.172.161]

7 19 ms 18 ms 35 ms gfd-bb-b-so-100-0.network.virginmedia.net [213.105.172.130]

8 27 ms 21 ms 37 ms redb-ic-1-as0-0.network.virginmedia.net [62.253.185.78]

9 170 ms 169 ms 169 ms 213.228.222.182

10 218 ms 218 ms 218 ms so-3-0-0.pat2.dax.yahoo.com [216.115.101.131]

11 220 ms 218 ms 236 ms ae1-p101.msr1.mud.yahoo.com [216.115.104.99]

12 219 ms 219 ms 247 ms v205.bas3.mud.yahoo.com [68.142.209.9]

13 233 ms 218 ms 218 ms www.flickr.vip.mud.yahoo.com [68.142.214.24]



Trace complete.

---------- Post added at 20:19 ---------- Previous post was at 19:58 ----------

Actually it's working for me now. I can access www.flickr.com, www.yahoo.com and answers.yahoo.com (in order of fastest to slowest to load)

---------- Post added at 20:21 ---------- Previous post was at 20:19 ----------

I did change the MTU to 1450 and after many tries I could access the sites, then I changed the MTU back to 1500 rebooted and could access them again after the same number of attempts. I can basically access those sites regardless of the MTU but either way access is really on and off...


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