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Don't you jsut love how the U.K is so technologically advanced not.

http://tech.slashdot.org/tech/08/09/27/1757211.shtml

Tell me that some of you aren't drooling lol.

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:drool: at the price as well as the speed.

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lol tell me about it almost everywere in the world are more techologically advanced.

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having fibre to the home has nothing to do with being technologically advanced, it's more down to the money involved. as the uk way is 'the cheapest is the best way', we won't be seeing a 99%+ fibre to the home service for a while in the uk.

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I just hope that eventually, however has the power to authorise the increase will do so to be a force recond with in the modern world, and not be a laughing stock

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Even in 5 years time we won't be there.
Maybe I should move to Japan.

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Our Government is too busy bailing out banks / building societies to consider spending on infrastructure at the moment unfortunately.

As you rightly said the UK way is cheapest even if it's also the most short term solution. We are sadly incredibly good at short-termism here. Better to spend a billion now then 20 billion later than just spend the 20 billion and be done with it.

Plus we have Ofcom who are hardly the paragon of efficiency or virtue for that matter, along with a number of interested parties for whom the status quo is the best and most profitable way.

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i do agree but best and most profitable are rarely if ever the same.

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Actually, last time I looked at a table showing average broadband speeds for various countries, the UK was about 12th or 13th in the world.. Yes, there are a lot of countries with faster connections, but a lot more with either no broadband or slower broadband (including a lot of the US).

Actually I suspect it's a combination of things. It's big business wanting to maximise their profits (a good idea, but they do it at the expense of customers which IMO is bad for the future).

It's also to do with a combination of our (tory lite) government being in love with privatisation and frightened to take on big businesses. For instance, both the Gas Board and Thames water have been digging up large parts of London replacing our aging gas, water and sewer networks. We are in an ideal position for the Government to follow the Swedish example and introduce a non-profit internet service reseller to provide fibre to the premises and do so reletively cheaply by putting fibre down the ducting used for the mains supplies, or down the sewers while workmen have been digging them up.

Have the government done this? Nope, they are content for BT to promise fibre to the home at the pathetic rate they are (yes, the money they plan to invest is a lot, but it is a fraction of one percent of what's needed) and for Virgin to make some vague promises about expanding the cable network at some point.

We aren't a technological backwater yet, but unless those in Authority pull their fingers out, we will be, and will have to suffer the economic consequences of that. Quite a few international companies have their European or World headquarters in London, is that likely to happen if we can't offer up to date communications systems?

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Had to live with a korean for a while who was pretty annoyed at having to pay their share £4 a month of a 13Mbs connection and thought what incredibly poor value for money this speed was. She didn't realise what a good speed this was in the UK. Thought it pretty much summed things up :).

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I'm not sure where you'll download at 1Gbps from; our datacentre in the US only provides 100Mb uplinks and I've never seen anything higher than 1Gbps (so one customer per server).

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Use a download manager like Getright to download using connections to multiple servers?

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Big DCs run multiple 10GbE uplinks, some extremely high traffic servers have 10GbE cards.

I've seen Akamai servers with 10GbE network cards and uplinks.

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Thats a lie. According to our Right Honourable Trustworthy Communist Dictator Leader.Our Gordon Brown. We are BroadBand Britian. One of the most techologically advanced society in the world today. :p:

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It's easier to provide really high speeds if everyone is living in the city in big blocks of flats. Think of the cost providing that sort of like to our more widely spread population mostly in their own separated properties.

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The usual excuse about population density.

Doesn't really work though when you note that people like Verizon in the US, FT in France and others are running FTTP and we have a higher population density than any of them, especially if you just consider urban areas.

Greater London population density: 4,758/ sq km
'Greater' Tokyo population density: 5,751/ sq km

London's inner ring suburbs have a population of 5.2 million in 360 square miles, for a population density of 14463 per square mile (5580 per square kilometer)

Japan's population density is 339 persons per square kilometer according to the United Nations World Populations Prospects Report as of July 2005

England's population density is 383 persons per square kilometer according to most recent national statistics

I intentionally left out Wales and Scotland as apart from a very few areas they are highly unlikely to see fibre any time soon. Although with the whole fibre for all thing I suspect we'll all get it eventually but have to wait for a universal rollout when less densely populated areas can be adequately subsidised by easier to cable ones.

Yep, damn our more widely separated population. The larger issue is requirements for cabling to be underground, the government liking to tax the hell out of any company that dares to dig, and companies keeping their existing ducting to themselves. That and the fear of investing for having to unbundle any new infrastructure at possibly non-favourable terms. Ofcom while they have wittered on about intent haven't given any real proposals yet.

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Due to the large amount of people in Japan, most people dont get 1gbps to their PCs, its mainly a fibre to their building type thing. I was reading about this (can't remember where right now) and it said - although japan is very advanced with BB - many homes getting 100mbps speeds, the 1gig speeds mainly go to a building and is split from there - so if theres 100 people in an apartment block (small in japan) then each apartment will get a portion of the 1gig.

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Well I wouldn't mind sharing 1Gbps with 100 people rather than sharing 38Mbit with a few hundred as we do at the moment :)

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I think the main problem is the cost, UK dont wanna spend money on this