Help With PC Build
 

OK so i am going to build my own PC, all the components are here. But i need some serious help. I am a total noob to this and so have no idea where to start.
Help Please

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http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/10...ing-guide.html I wrote this all the information you need is there. Please be careful and follw the manuals :)

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Thanks David :)

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OK so the mobo is in, the HHD and CD/DVD are screwed it. BUT i have no idea where all the wies go. I need some serious help with the wiring and the graphics card. Please :angel:

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Every motherboard is a little bit different so it's hard to give definite advice. I will first repeat again what Zingle repeated in his instructions. READ THE MANUAL..

The task is always a bit overwhelming the first time or two. The trick is to break it down into smaller 'bite size' pieces.

Track down where the data and power leads for your disks start and finish. Once you have worked that out turn your attention to the graphics card. Again, that will probably have an extra power connector. Find out what type you need and locate a spare from the PSU.

Tackle it a bit at a time and get each bit clear in your head before you actually connect anything. You'll probably find the trickiest bit is the front panel switch/LED and usb connectors. They'll probably need a torch and a magnifying glass.

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Hmm i have tried the manual. but there are so many wires and so many slots i have no idea where they go.

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it will be called front panel connector in the manual. The case wires will all be clearly marked. Also look in the manual for usb set up as your case most likely has usb to wire in.

Where do you live? anyone near you possibly be able to help

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I live in Liverpool, currently ringing to see if a shop will build the rest for me :D
Maplin said no :@
If the wires were colour coded...hahahaha

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That's probably a wise move. If you've never done anything like this before it's easy to make an expensive mistake.

Shame I'm in Lincolnshire. The 'pool is a bit too far a commute.

;)

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Remember that just becuase there are a lot of cables, it doesnt mean that all of them need plugging in.

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Should you not have done a little reading before you bought all the stuff?

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pm sent mate

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honestly it really should not be a problem. The case from the switches are keyed and will tie in with the front panel connector diagram in the manual. The usb will be clearly labeled as vcc + - and ground this will tie in with clearly diagrammed usb headers on the board and in the maunal. The 24 pin power and either 8 pin or 4 pin from the psu will also be clearly shown on the motherboard manual. The only other i can think of is case fans and cpu fan these also will be shown. If you can get all them sorted you should be good to fire it up

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i have sent a pm to see where abouts in liverpool as im only around 20 mins away from there if i stick to the speed limits :angel: or 10 mins the way i normally drive :D

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LOL.. You've been around too long m8..

If you try *really* hard to think back you might remember when you worried about which way round to put an LED connector..

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Thanks for the person who sent me the PM.
I have worked through it alone over the past four hours and am about to...plug the power supply into the graphics card. I have also been to work though haha

Thanks for all the help :D

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BIOS!

So when i first turned the new build on it went to BIOS. Then i turned it off as i didn't have a OS at hand. Now when i turn the new build on, it doesn't go to BIOS. Any ideas what i should do?

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when you turn it on what does it do?

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It beeps and goes throgh 2 screens really quickly 9one was the mobo screen i think) then it says "Reboot and insert proper boot device..."

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Should i take the battery out on the mobo for half an hour?

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In your manual it will have an instruction to access the bios..........

You have got an OS ready haven't you? on cd? and you have a cd player in the pc?

access the bios and have it boot from the OS cd

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OK i can't do access the BIOS.
When the PC goes on it jumps to screens then goes black and white writing coems up with "Reboot and insert proper boot device..." Then nothing happens.

Yes i have an OS ready, its on CD ad my new build has a CD Drive. But i can't get into BIOS.

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what key do you have to use to access the bios? quite often its F8

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I pressed F8, a small screen came on and asked where to boot from. I selected the CD/DVD drive. It went back to the "Reboot and insert proper boot device..." and then it restarted... :S

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Try f2 to access the bios not the boot menu ( my balls(eye) are green not crystal:))

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bios is very rarely f8(in fact I do not think I have seen it F8 ever) it is more likely the del key or the f2 key. F8 is boot select.

put the OS in the drive and boot the pc. As you have no OS installed it should start from the media automatically
I take it the OS you intend to use is a legit copy? if not it may not be a bootable image

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Nothing happened.

The new build has just went off on its own :S

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sometimes it's 'Del' key as you start the system. You need to get into the BIOS setup screens.

Once you get into that you can set the boot order and also make sure the system is seeing a suitable system disk to install the operating system.

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What.... down the pub?? come on, give us a clue what happens when you switch it on and access the bios as it says in the manual

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now I think is the time to go over everything. Check all your cables connections and ensure they are all in place correctly. You say it just switched off? can you list all the componants . Are they all new?

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Everything is new. All my stuff is on the first page.
I got onto BIOS by holding down Delete.
But then when in BIOS what do i do?

Edit:all wires are connected

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do you have another pc you can use ?
if yes, put the new hard drive in the second PC as a slave.(make sure you set the jumpers to slave).
then load your OS on to the slave/new drive.
then reset the jumpers to master or single drive.
then put the new hard drive back in to the new build pc and restart.
good luck mate and take your time.

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Hoggie thanks for that, but i have no idea what half that means.
I do have another PC (the one am using, its very old).

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what is the mobo?

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Motherboard=mobo lol

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OOOkaayyy.... what is the motherboard name and type?

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ASUS P5Q Pro

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Could it be a fault with a disc do you think?

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Same mobo as me. It should Auto load from the OS cd . Is it a sata optical drive? if so you have not put it on the asus sata controller (orange and white) as these are hard drives only

I can not see a parts list on this thread?

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here.s what to do, go to bed and READ THE MANUAL that came with the "mobo":)

'cos I am oot 'o here :tired::sleeping:

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Sorry, here is a parts list (not the freezer fan is not installed).

Yes it is a SATA optical drive. Nothing on my motherboard has gone into the orange and white sata controllers. My HHD and CD/DVD go into the red sockets-does it matter which red socket?

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that would not work for a number of reasons

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Scrubbs, goodnight.
I have read the manual-and got this far...

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you have installed a fan ?

go into bios and make sure the sata controllers are set to IDE. If you can not get it to access the cd steal the optical drive out of this pc and try that as it will be an IDE drive . I have had problems on occassion installed windows from sata drives

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No, i bought it then someone said i dont need it cos am not over clocking.

Back on topic, all the sata wires are in place, the CD/DVD is getting power.

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looking at your mother board ASUS P5Q Pro you will not have an ide connection on your new hard drive.
so the old pc idea will not work.
you can still do it using a SATA to USB hard drive caddie but thats just going to cost you more money:(

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How do i check if the sata controllers are set to ISE?

The CD player in my computer (one am on now) doesn't read DVDs, it plays them but won't show data on them.

Could it be the Vista Disc (its a copy [legal btw]).

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Overclocking is irrelevent the freezer will spin slower and quieter than the stock.I do assume you have installed the stock fan?

I do not think its the Vista disc yet

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Erm, this is most definitely ON topic..

Have you installed a cooler and fan of some description on the CPU?

If not, the do NOT power on again until that is sorted unless you want to burn up the price of a processor..

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I have installed all the fans that came with it set up.
I just tried a XP Pro disc i have and it didn't work wuth that. Any ideas?
Should i take it to a PC shop/ring someone out to fix it?

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you can not install an operating system on one machine then move the hard drive to another it does not work that way. For a start the boot setup could be wrong and if it issnt unless you have the same chipset or similar in both machines it will just crash or be problematic due to chipset driver conflicts

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The Case came with 2 fans, they're installed and the processor has a fan covering it.
I did buy the seperate fan, but there is no where for it to go on the case.

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have you gone into bios and set the sata controllers to IDE? it is all in your manual



Incidentally the artic cooling freezer 7 pro is a much more efficient cooler than the stock . It spins slower making less noise and the heat pipes transfer the heat generated by the cpu much better. I very rarely use stock coolers

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No not done that. Is this required before i even begin the OS install.
Up to now all i have done is build the PC and got onto BIOS-have only changed the BOOT option to CD/DVD, all other BIOS settings have not be touched. :erm:

I shall, once i have this problem sorted install the other fan :D

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as long as you have a fan on the cpu do not worry about it for now. I would leave it for tonight as it is getting late :)

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Sounds like we're making some headway with this. Glad to get the fan issues clarified anyway so at least I'm reassured you're not risking meltdown.

The bios settings in outline Terry.. Yes it's important to set the boot order as you have done, so the system will boot from your OS cd and start installing the system. The other important part of the setup is to get the hard disk settings correct so the system can 'see' a primary boot device. It has to know where to look for the system disk and until that is defined correctly you'll not be able to install windows.

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How do i go about setting the Hard Disk so the system can see the primary boot device?

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It is all clearly explained in the manual

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my offer still stands mate i do know what im doing in putting a pc together and installing the windows on, to it just PM me if you want me to take a look for you as i said i live 30mins from liverpool at the most as warrington is close to you.

aslong as you have fitted the cpu heatsink and fan even if it is stock then also changed the boot device so that, the dvd drive is the first boot device and you have connected the hard drives up properly, then it should work if not then you need someone to have a look at it for you if you have not done this before no offence is meant by this either.

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OK so i have read the manual and i still don't have ANY idea what to do.

I have built the PC and changed the boot primary thing to CD/DVD. I have not done ANYTHING else to the BIOS, not inserted any other discs or altered any other settings (none at all).
:sleep:

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Talk to Damien m8.. You could learn a lot watching over his shoulder and it could save you a lot of grief.

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As much as i would like for Damien to help me, many issues arise such as paying, parents allowing a man of the internet into the house etc.
I do thank Damien for the offer though :D

So to clarify do i need to change any settings in BIOS for it to boot from the CD/DVD driver-other than setting the boot to CD/DVD?

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make sure the sata are set to IDE!!!!!!! section 3-13 storage configuration. I suspect it is not booting because its a sata optical drive until this can be ruled out then I can be of no more help

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They are set to IDE.

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go zingle, go zingle, go go go :hyper::cleader::cleader::cleader::nworthy:

go on.......you know you want to:)

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See if Damien is willing to let you take the pc to his house then mate.:)

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that is fine if you wanted to bring it here as i have no problem with that and your parents can come aswell. as i say i do know what im doing have been building pc's since i was 10 years old so its not a problem for me, i can come to yours or it can be brought to mine and i'm available any day after 1pm except this saturday. if you decide that you want me to look at it for you all you need to do is send me a pm ;)

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Can I watch The Master in action ;):D

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Ok earlier you said you have an XP cd . Please remove your ide optical drive from the machine you are on now and fit it into the new build and try to boot from the xp cd :)

As I said before pretty much all bios's set to default when first booted will automatically boot from the cd when there is no file table on the hard drive. So if all was well with the build in normal circumstances the machine would have just booted from the disc without setting boot from cd first.
My machine does boot from sata roms though so by rights yours should. I want to rule out a dodgy drive.

You did not go into any more detail earlier did you? where you said the machine just turned off. Has this happened since?

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well i have an image of windows XP Pro on an external hard drive which i have used to load windows on all three of my pc's and it has worked fine. and it is seen as a bootble drive via usb. but as you say if its not done right it will not work.
there is a tutorial.
here's the one i used. two years ago:D

http://www.911cd.net/forums//index.php?showtopic=16713


EDIT: Sorry for going of topic

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are you trying to load xp or vista ?

xp has only just got SATA drivers in SP3. just seen this on another forum. so not sure if its correct.