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Dai 17-09-2008 16:45

WGA - can I escape from this?
 
Have an old Dell belonging to a pensioner chappie.. Bought in good faith off eBay by an innocent - I'm sure you all know the story. So now it's got the 'counterfeit' nags all over since it turns out that it is one of the barred VLK licenses.

I'm basically looking at the quickest and cheapest option as the machine really has no value and the old chap is not wealthy.

Can I do a repair install over the top of the VLK with a 'legit' OEM serial. Will this work or do I have to 'bare-metal' and reinstall from scratch?

zing_deleted 17-09-2008 16:48

Re: WGA - can I escape from this?
 
From scratch dude

Delta Whiskey 17-09-2008 17:04

Re: WGA - can I escape from this?
 
I agree with David (nee Zinglebarb) the only to be sure you've got rid of all the nags is a clean install.

Dai 17-09-2008 17:16

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I agree, that's what I would do normally and have done in the past.

It's more a matter of interest than anything else. Wondering what corners I can cut to do the job on the cheap.

There's a limit to how much time I want to waste on an Optiplex GX110.. 533Mhz pentium 3..
I've already chucked a freebie stick of ram in there so I'm not waiting half the day for it to boot.

Graham M 17-09-2008 17:52

Re: WGA - can I escape from this?
 
Please do not discuss illegal methods of getting around this problem within this thread!

Thanks

Jonathan90 17-09-2008 18:01

Re: WGA - can I escape from this?
 
sorry i didn't mention enything to do with illegal in this particular thread i just asked him to try my method which was sent in a pm to him

Alien 17-09-2008 18:34

Re: WGA - can I escape from this?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by DaiNasty (Post 34638954)
There's a limit to how much time I want to waste on an Optiplex GX110.. 533Mhz pentium 3..
I've already chucked a freebie stick of ram in there so I'm not waiting half the day for it to boot.

If you want to speed up the install, & remove some of the unnecessary crap MS installs, have a go with nLite.

Dai 17-09-2008 18:49

Re: WGA - can I escape from this?
 
My thanks to all who have suggested different routes.
Although I'm tempted to put this old wreck back to Windows ME I'll probably end up donating one of my spare XP Home licenses..

Just soft I am..

;)

Alien 17-09-2008 18:55

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You can still use nLite with that. :) Be warned though, if you go beyond the simple stuff like making it an unattended install, removing unnecessary drivers, disabling useless services etc, & head into automating extra stuff that it doesn't handle completely on its own, it can get rather addictive & take up a lot of your time. :disturbd:

Dai 17-09-2008 19:56

Re: WGA - can I escape from this?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Alien (Post 34639000)
You can still use nLite with that. :) Be warned though, if you go beyond the simple stuff like making it an unattended install, removing unnecessary drivers, disabling useless services etc, & head into automating extra stuff that it doesn't handle completely on its own, it can get rather addictive & take up a lot of your time. :disturbd:

I'm not quite *that* geeky..

I've used nLite to make a slipstreamed SP3 disk but that's about where I draw the line.
I played that game to it's ultimate conclusion years ago with a skinny version of Win98. Now I can't be arsed anymore. I'd rather bang in more memory and leave it bloated..

:cool:

Matth 17-09-2008 23:01

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SP3, and maybe the RyanVM Post-SP3 update pack to minimize the amount of updates needed.

If only ReactOS was ready for the big time - http://www.reactos.org/en/index.html
This is NOT Linux + Wine, though it does have a synergistic relationship with Wine.

It is still, as they say, not feature complete, though some applications can be run, but in terms of feature completeness, Linux + Wine probably has a major edge on it at the moment.

Dai 18-09-2008 07:57

Re: WGA - can I escape from this?
 
Aha.. The obligatory Linux comment..

;)

now my thread is complete. My work here is done..

:waving:

Graham M 18-09-2008 07:59

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Haha :D

And it is Linux+Wine with Wine doing all the important stuff which I'm not sure is a great idea (sorry Off-topic!)

LSainsbury 18-09-2008 08:54

Re: WGA - can I escape from this?
 
My suggestion would be to inform Microsoft and tell them where you got it from. I think they then sell you a high-discounted key and then go after Mr Pirate.

Xaccers 18-09-2008 10:19

Re: WGA - can I escape from this?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by LSainsbury (Post 34639256)
My suggestion would be to inform Microsoft and tell them where you got it from. I think they then sell you a high-discounted key and then go after Mr Pirate.

I like that idea :)

Kymmy 18-09-2008 10:25

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The offer was free for those that has a fake CD that had to be sent back to Microsoft along with a full report on purchasing details.. If you have a pre-installed windows with a VLK licence then you ended up with very little discount on a genuine item... (there's not real evidence for them to prosecute without physical evidence..and the discounted price is actually more than an OEM copy)

Matth 20-09-2008 00:02

Re: WGA - can I escape from this?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Graham M (Post 34639245)
Haha :D

And it is Linux+Wine with Wine doing all the important stuff which I'm not sure is a great idea (sorry Off-topic!)

Reactos is NOT Linux + Wine, it is reverse engineered NT style kernel + Wine.

Yes, Wine is wher the higher level APIs come from, but instead of layering on top of Linux, the aim is am NT style kernel, and ultimately, it seems, the abilty to use Windows drivers.


Personally, I think MS will let them get so far, then drop so many obstacles in their path, skating just on the right side of avoiding anti-competition problems. By the time "XP ressurected" gets anywhere near finished, it may even suit Microsoft's purpose if there is a non-MS alternative for Vista or Windows 7 refusers.

Alien 20-09-2008 02:00

Re: WGA - can I escape from this?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by DaiNasty (Post 34639051)
I'm not quite *that* geeky..

Nor am I... Ok, yes I am. :o:

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaiNasty (Post 34639051)
I've used nLite to make a slipstreamed SP3 disk but that's about where I draw the line.
I played that game to it's ultimate conclusion years ago with a skinny version of Win98. Now I can't be arsed anymore. I'd rather bang in more memory and leave it bloated..

:cool:

Yeah, but XP has a load more bloat. Don't get me wrong, I love XP [especially XP64 :D], but it's more bloated than it needs to be. And don't get me started on the registry...! For example, there's loads of stuff in there just in case you happen to connect some obscure bit of equipment that the manufacturer doesn't feel like providing proper [or any] support for.

Having said that, at the moment I'm still working on automating the install & the adding of my various settings & customisations, & testing in a VirtualBox VM. [the latest version is really cool, especially if you have a CPU that supports Hardware Virtualisation] Once I get to a state that I deem acceptable, I'll finally get round to putting my new hardware in. Then I'll work on getting rid of more of the bloat. :D

zing_deleted 20-09-2008 09:28

Re: WGA - can I escape from this?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Matth (Post 34640131)
Reactos is NOT Linux + Wine, it is reverse engineered NT style kernel + Wine.

Yes, Wine is wher the higher level APIs come from, but instead of layering on top of Linux, the aim is am NT style kernel, and ultimately, it seems, the abilty to use Windows drivers.


Personally, I think MS will let them get so far, then drop so many obstacles in their path, skating just on the right side of avoiding anti-competition problems. By the time "XP ressurected" gets anywhere near finished, it may even suit Microsoft's purpose if there is a non-MS alternative for Vista or Windows 7 refusers.

That is really interesting. If it does mean it can run windows devices and a lot of windows programs in emulation then ReactOS could very well be a way forward.

I have just installed the latest build in virtualbox and it literally took 3 minutes. The image is less than 26 meg. I may well try it on the main system to see if it runs all the drivers . I know it is Alpha software but so far I like it

Dai 20-09-2008 11:08

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Sounds really interesting. I must grab that later and get the VM fired up.

zing_deleted 20-09-2008 11:57

Re: WGA - can I escape from this?
 
It did not install on my second machine dunno why it just loaded setup files then nothing perhaps it was a chipset issue but they think it will enter beta this year so perhaps then.

Alien 20-09-2008 15:39

Re: WGA - can I escape from this?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by David F (Post 34640197)
I have just installed the latest build in virtualbox and it literally took 3 minutes.

How are you liking the latest version of VirtualBox compared to VMware? I know you were using Workstation, whereas I was using Player, but I think VirtualBox feels a lot quicker than VMware.

Quote:

Originally Posted by David F (Post 34640197)
The image is less than 26 meg. I may well try it on the main system to see if it runs all the drivers . I know it is Alpha software but so far I like it

If you're in the mood for a bit of OS experimentation, have a go with this:
MenuetOS. 64bit OS that fits on a floppy. :D

zing_deleted 20-09-2008 16:20

Re: WGA - can I escape from this?
 
I prefer VMware tbh

Will have a look at the other :)


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