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EastEnders paedophilia storyline
Eastender has started one of the most power storylines in soap history.
Bianca's stepdaughter Whitney is going to be raped by Bianca's current boyfriend Toney who has been grooming her. Is this a story to far, or is it a story to bring this subject out to greater public attention, and perhaps show some people the warning signs that may be happening under there noses, as these people often groom the whole family http://www.walfordweb.co.uk/walfordw...le.php?id=1195 |
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Havent they been having an affair from before he went inside?
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Yes but he making everybody thing he's interested in Bianca
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I hate storylines like this.. it's claimed to be 'educational' but I see it as taking a really awful experience and trivialising it for entertainment.
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I can see the BBC / OFCOM switch boards mealting from all the complaints.
This is a story line that seem to be a taboo subject, but needs to be done. |
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I don't really watch soaps, bit I know a lot of people do. If this is done well, and it shows people how grooming happens, and people start to recognise the signs then it could be a good thing.
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Anyway I think that there are too many soaps showing situations such as these far too early in the evening.After 9 pm might be a better idea for some of the more adult themes... |
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I agree that soap do trivialise some storylines, but hopefully this will be different. |
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It's not the first time a storyline like this has been done.
Family Affairs a few years ago had a story where a guy who was abused when he was younger then went on to think it was ok to abuse others. I don't think it is the most tasteful of storylines. I think it is making entertainment out of something which really isnt funny or entertaining. |
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It happens in real life soap operas are dramas based on what happens in real life. Ok a lot happens in Albert Square but it would be quite dull if it showed people sat watching Corrie
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I don't get why people still move to places like Albert Square, Coronation Street and Emmerdale. I mean, do these people not watch tele? I'd NEVER move to any of those places knowing what I know about the people there. Every Christmas, I'd be kaking myself in case it was my turn to die horrifically. As for getting married there - sod that. You just KNOW something awful will happen to someone that day, like a plane crashing on their head, the post office exploding in your face or someone you thought you knew well turns out to be a psycho killer who's after doing in you mother.... what's wrong with these people who insist on living in these places???
BUY A TV!!! ---------- Post added at 22:00 ---------- Previous post was at 21:58 ---------- oh, btw... the vote is missing the option "don't care". I'd be interested to see the result of that! |
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This sort of storyline should NOT be in soaps, it will be shown as gloryfying a sick part of life, it should be be spoken in schools and community centres, where adults and children should be made aware of what to look for, who to inform etc. l for one will not watch this show, whilst this storyline is on, if it was about anything else such as cancer help, aids help, or alcohol problem, then that helps the public, but about the sickos of this world.
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A lot of people watch soaps and if they are bringing up events that do happen in real life it can help people that have been through and are going through similar things and lead to to telling someone and seeking help. I know someone that was abused by a family member when they were young and it only got brought up a few years back as they were sitting drinking with their mother and Aunt and it all came out and also happened to them when they were younger. Now if people see this on the TV there is more chance of them seeking help. But also there are people that will complain as they feel uncomfortable with situations like that. |
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It might be a TV show, BUT in this day and age, you tell me how many shows there are on TV where something happens in real life, and you would lose count.
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I thought they already did something like this with Kat?
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Hi Stephen, l do take your point, and l respect that, my all round opion is that, in case EastEnders take the matter too far, as some soaps do, when l was brought up, l had similar problems, and in those days, it was known as 'the dirty mack brigade' there is a limit, to what can be shown, and l think that this storyline, could be near the bone, You could also have the sicko's of this world, looking, but what we should be doing is teaching people about this sad incident, but l do take your piont and all parts of the media should help to educate people, and a regular basis, but sadly when the prog is over, it will be fogotten, but the sadness is, that people will still be effected - and that is the saddest part.
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---------- Post added at 22:58 ---------- Previous post was at 22:56 ---------- it really is just a tv show. if you really want to make a difference to those who have ACTUALLY suffered from this kind of stuff, do some charity work or something. not watching one of the most watched progammes on tv is really not going to make anyone blink. |
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how can I be on my high horse when I'm the one trying to tell people it is exactly what you just said.... entertainment. a LOT of programmes these days focus on the drinking culture, drug abuse, rape, violence, etc, etc, but I don't see a thread for each of them. people get WAY too intense on this sort of stuff. unfortunately, you simply cannot hide from it. someone is always going to be in some harrowing position, no matter what soap you watch.
yeah, it happens. it's sick. it's wrong. God have mercy on me if anyone ever touched my daughter because I know I'd be the one going to jail as the person who did something would be 6 foot under. but Eastender's portrail of it is just not real and it's just not worth the effort of arguing over. it's only a TV programme... |
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I personally don't like the idea. I can see both sides of the opinion/argument but I really don't like it. I don't watch Deadenders anyway so it's never going to effect anyone in our house, but if I did, I'd choose not too in this case. The lines are getting greyer all the time these days in terms of what is morally acceptable before the watershed or otherwise. TV isn't the place for this in my opinion. Imagine what kids who have gone through this will feel like. Deadenders is depressing enough as it is for a start. They're not scraping the bottom of the barrel with this, they've gone right through and are now in the crap below it.
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Anyway I also have the same attitude towards rape,murder,kidnapping etc being trivialised for entertainment and it matters not how bad the writing,performances or how real or unreal the soap is.IN fact the less real the production the more trite it becomes because it's just used for shock value..not to educate at all. |
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On the other side of the scales there is also the argument that they may actually be taking the opportunity to bring the matter to the attention of a subset of society whos life revolves around soap operas and are generally of touch with what is happening in the real world. |
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Hmm, paedophilia ? Im sure that technically its the correct term, but not what most people would really associate with the term, which is much younger girls. In that picture she easily looks older than 15.
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this storyline highlights the fact that this does actually happen outside of our happy home bubble. for people who would normally turn a blind eye & not talk to their children about these dangers, well, the kids will have an opportunity to talk to their peers or elders about it. if the 'do-gooders' dont like it then theres always the off button!!
I welcome anything that encourages discussions withins fanilies etc. well done BBC! |
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The "character" Tony has been grooming the "charater" Whitney for quite a while and along with the grooming is the maniplulation of Whitney.
Whether the BBC is right or wrong the fact of the matter is that this sort of abuse is happening all the time and if it draws the public's attention to certain traits that can be displayed then there is a very good possibility that someone's life may be changed enough that they break away from the abuse and\or parents\relatives will see these traits that are being shown on Eastenders and then they may be able to help\put a stop to grooming and paedophilia. The storyline that is being shown is just that a story but it has been put together with the script writers and the NSPCC so its not just some writers thoughts on the subject its been thoroughly researched. ---------- Post added at 18:55 ---------- Previous post was at 18:55 ---------- Quote:
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If they do attempt to educate people (and previously, Eastenders does seem to have favoured this approach), then it could be good. As an example of a storyline that supposedly educated people, I cite the storyline in the 90s of Joe (or Jaw as my family nicknamed him) Wicks. For those who don't know, the character started off as a typical soap teenager and over the space of 2 or 3 years gradually became both more and more paranoid and eccentric (in a disturbing, not entertaining way) before being diagnosed with a mental illness. They took the time to show not only the effects on Joe, but also the effects on all the characters he was involved with. Mental health charities even congratulated EE for showing that not all mentall illness comes on quickly. ---------- Post added at 20:55 ---------- Previous post was at 20:44 ---------- Quote:
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If this storyline is handled well and senstively, it may help a victim's friends to spot the signs that he or she is a victim, and help them to know what to do. That is of course, If. |
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Mount St Bianca has exploded.
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She's just found out Witney & Tony.
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Nah thats the return of Nick Cotton.
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I don't watch Eastenders but turned it when you posted above.
I don't think it's a storyline too far. And it's good Bianca stood by her daughter, didn't blame her as many mothers would have done, and from the ending it looks as though the daughter has realised what's actually happened to her. Hopefully, any young teenage girls watching this who are in this situation will realise too and speak out. |
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I think they've done quite a good job of this storyline. They've managed to show a predatory paedophile at work. They've shown how they start exploiting young girls with the Lauren storyline. They've also shown how they end relationships with girls when the girl grows up too much and begins to become a woman with the Whitney storyline. They've managed to show how the girls often don't even realise it's happening and think it's a normal boy - girl relationship and if anything, blame themselves later.
They've also hopefully thrown out some people's misconceptions that all paedophiles must be dirty old men in macs that hang around schools looking for victims. This one was a young, good looking bloke who zeroed in on a vulnerable single mother to move in on her daughter. We all know that young people identify a lot more with people from soaps and bands etc, than they do with teachers, social workers, politicians and if just one girl has managed to realise from these storylines that she is in an abusive relationship like this, then it's been worth it. May also make some single mothers a bit more wary of letting the wrong person into their life. |
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"Allo Ma":) |
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'Merry Christmas Ma!!' :) |
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Another good episode last night. The Lynch mob is forming, and already they have the wrong person in their sites..
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For me, No they haven't gone too far. Although I am not a big fan of soaps, I believe they have dealt with the issue in a responsible manner
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Weird this, i watched Hollyoaks today for first time in ages, and Tony in that is being done for sleeping with a underage Girl. Both Tony, Both Peados, is there some sort of copying thing going on here?
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The Tony in Eastenders did, repeatedly, from when Whitney was 12. Anyway, in soaps, you do find that from time to time, they use similar storylines, although Hollyoaks has been known to sensationalise storylines (admittedly they handled an anorexia storyline quite well last year). |
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Tony in Hollyhoaks I think did sleep with the girl but she collared him in a club and he thought she was older.
Has it actually been made clear that Tony Eastenders actually had sex with Whitney? not totally followed it |
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Well, Ofcom have cleared the storyline, noted that the storyline "actually had a positive impact" on the audience (leading to a lot of potential victims phoning the BBC action line) and concluded that the the story reached "an appropriate conclusion" when Tony (the paedophile) was arrested.
http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/broadcas...hile-plot.html In all, I think the storyline was very well handled by all concerned, and I'll be staggered if there aren't awards heading for the show and cast. |
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