Cable Forum

Cable Forum (https://www.cableforum.uk/board/index.php)
-   Virgin Media TV Service (https://www.cableforum.uk/board/forumdisplay.php?f=11)
-   -   TV cheaper with Virgin than Sky? (https://www.cableforum.uk/board/showthread.php?t=33638322)

Pia 06-09-2008 19:14

TV cheaper with Virgin than Sky?
 
Okay i didn't know which section to post this in so i'm sure it will be moved :angel:

Also, i guess this makes me lazy as I know I could have easily researched this for myself but I do prefer to have opinion more specific to me :dunce:

At the moment i pay this:

Line Rental & Talk Int & Talk Mobile (i need neither) £14.00
BB Large £25
Call barring + Caller display £3.50
Talk Unlimited £7.95
= £49.45
with a loyalty discount of £19.46

£30.99 total


My question is........

I also pay £22 for Sky tv, i get all except disney/sports/movies

Could i get a package cheaper with Virgin to include the TV?

Although not keen on the idea of Virgin for telly but could live with it if i was to save money

I see all these offers for Virgin tv but they have the very basic channels, i'd want the same channels if i was to move!

Charlie_Bubble 06-09-2008 20:54

Re: TV cheaper with Virgin than Sky?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Pia (Post 34633273)
Okay i didn't know which section to post this in so i'm sure it will be moved :angel:

Also, i guess this makes me lazy as I know I could have easily researched this for myself but I do prefer to have opinion more specific to me :dunce:

At the moment i pay this:

Line Rental & Talk Int & Talk Mobile (i need neither) £14.00
BB Large £25
Call barring + Caller display £3.50
Talk Unlimited £7.95
= £49.45
with a loyalty discount of £19.46

£30.99 total


My question is........

I also pay £22 for Sky tv, i get all except disney/sports/movies

Could i get a package cheaper with Virgin to include the TV?

Although not keen on the idea of Virgin for telly but could live with it if i was to save money

I see all these offers for Virgin tv but they have the very basic channels, i'd want the same channels if i was to move!

I could never get caller display when I had NTL as my phone provider.

Pia 06-09-2008 21:13

Re: TV cheaper with Virgin than Sky?
 
Think it depends on the area?

lemarsh 06-09-2008 21:22

Re: TV cheaper with Virgin than Sky?
 
I had a Virgin Broadband (M) & Phone, and was paying £19 (discounted from £27), plus £22 for Sky (all packages, but no movies or sports).

Swapped over to Virgin TV, and now have Broadband L (10 meg as opposed to 2), XL Package (Virgin's package of roughly same channels)*, and Phone - and also V+ box (in my opinion better than Sky+ - and as my Sky+ box kept loosing stored programmes, and Sky wanted to charge to to repair or replace, better to 'rent').

Total Cost was £36 now, as opposed to £41, and about to rise £49.

*Sky 1, News & Sports News not included, by do have BBC HD, Setanta Sports & Music on demand, which I am loving at the moment! Also BBC iplayer.

Pia 06-09-2008 22:08

Re: TV cheaper with Virgin than Sky?
 
Well at the moment i don't want to lose my loyalty pack as it includes Talk Unlimited so i'm worried that adding TV to my package would affect everything i'd have to ring them i guess...

I am just looking at the VM site and it looks like their equivalent to my Sky £22 package is the XL at £19.50? Everything except Sky One??
(edit: oops you said that above)

I'm paying £53 for everything at the moment, i like Sky though (when it's not torrential rain/wind :erm: ) so i'd want to be saving around a tenner a month to want to change!

---------- Post added at 23:07 ---------- Previous post was at 23:05 ----------

BB on my bill is listed a L but mine is only 4 meg, how come you get 10?

---------- Post added at 23:08 ---------- Previous post was at 23:07 ----------

Bah i don't have Sky+ i'm sure they'll offer me one if/when i ring to leave though, so i should prepare myself for the dilemma :shocked::confused:

joglynne 06-09-2008 22:50

Re: TV cheaper with Virgin than Sky?
 
I can't really advise you on any thing to do with prices but the 4Mb BB is in the process of being upgraded to 10Mb. I have checked the upgrade schedule and it's saying that Darlington has been done.

Double check what speed you're getting by going here (login should be root/root) and on the Operation Config. page you should see 'Maximum Downstream Data Rate : 10240000' which is 10Mb

Pia 06-09-2008 23:20

Re: TV cheaper with Virgin than Sky?
 
OH! LOL Yeah i have 10mb wow i wonder when that happened:shocked:

Saying that, i had noticed ridiculous amounts of traffic shaping at peak hours, but i didn't think it came as a result of an upgrade. I had been impressed with my speed for the most part but i didn't think i was on 10mb :erm: :LOL:

---------- Post added at 00:20 ---------- Previous post was yesterday at 23:55 ----------

Quote:

Sat, 06 Sep 2008 23:19:23 GMT

Test 1: 1024K took 1930 ms = 530.6 KB/sec, approx 4372 Kbps, 4.27 Mbps
Test 2: 1024K took 2044 ms = 501 KB/sec, approx 4128 Kbps, 4.03 Mbps
Test 3: 1024K took 1783 ms = 574.3 KB/sec, approx 4732 Kbps, 4.62 Mbps
Test 4: 2048K took 3759 ms = 544.8 KB/sec, approx 4489 Kbps, 4.38 Mbps

Overall Average Speed = approx 4430 Kbps, 4.33 Mbps
:erm: :erm: lol... off topic, i know :angel:

JethroUK 07-09-2008 09:58

Re: TV cheaper with Virgin than Sky?
 
if you dont want talk mobile i think you can get

XL TV
L Phone (eve & weekends)
L BB (10 meg now?)

£35

Pia 07-09-2008 16:48

Re: TV cheaper with Virgin than Sky?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by JethroUK (Post 34633538)
if you dont want talk mobile i think you can get

XL TV
L Phone (eve & weekends)
L BB (10 meg now?)

£35

Hmmmm...

So £35 plus the £3.50 i spend on the barring/display = £38.50 meaning a saving of just under 15 quid.

I think that's probably worth switching for, it just means talk unlimited becomes TU on evening/weekends only, right??

I'll give VM a ring tomorrow if i get chance after work - also interested to see what Sky offer to try keeping me, i've been a customer for 5.5 years with not even a late payment.

lemarsh 07-09-2008 17:00

Re: TV cheaper with Virgin than Sky?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Pia (Post 34633744)
also interested to see what Sky offer to try keeping me, i've been a customer for 5.5 years with not even a late payment.

My guess is nothing. They are totally un-customer focused. If it follows like I did, they will put obstacles in the way, as opposed to incentives to keep you.

Even if VM went bust tomorrow, and Sky offered free re-connection, I wouldn't go back.

tvtimes 08-09-2008 11:22

Re: TV cheaper with Virgin than Sky?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by lemarsh (Post 34633751)
My guess is nothing. They are totally un-customer focused. If it follows like I did, they will put obstacles in the way, as opposed to incentives to keep you.

Even if VM went bust tomorrow, and Sky offered free re-connection, I wouldn't go back.

Agreed! When i left Sky they said "Bye then, see you in 12 months enjoy your services with Telewest!" Blatant sarcasm on their part! Well nearly 4 years on and i haven't gone back! Wonder if that girl still works there!

Arthurgray50@blu 09-09-2008 16:29

Re: TV cheaper with Virgin than Sky?
 
VM will always be cheaper than Sky, BUT, with Sky you get more channels for your money, I have Sky multiroom, and have now two boxes, with all the channels, it costs me 60.00 per month, but if l had VM in all the rooms, it would cost me £40.00 and this includes phone and BB, BUT with VM they take channels off, whereas Sky don't unless the channel goes bust, but value for money has to be Sky, especially for its Sports and News (where you can get six stories separately on) and with the Sports you get separate via the red button, whereas with VM you don't.

Pia 25-10-2008 21:17

Re: TV cheaper with Virgin than Sky?
 
Okay so i called Sky a while back now and told them i wanted to cancel as i wanted to go with Virgin for all 3 services, one hour later and she talks me out of cancelling even though they offered me a rubbish 3 month deal of a downgraded packge @ £3 per month....

I declined the offer and said i wanted to still cancel but she told me to go and think about it as i didn't seem to have made my mind up :confused:

Before this though, i had already arranged for VM TV to be installed @ £30, costing around £13 per month for the Sky equivalent of £22 per month.

I forgot to call Sky back, to give my 30 days notice and today the VM installer turned up to install my cable TV.... Now i have both services and my plan to save money hasn't worked at all because i'm going to have to pay Sky for this next month that i'm not even using it :mad::mad::mad::mad:

I'm thinking about cancelling my direct debit for Sky and writing a letter to say i wanted to cancel ASAP and was guilted out of it so can i please have it disconnected as of now... and hope to get away with paying them for the 30 day notice period!

As for the Virgin TV, i am VERY pleasantly surprised, after using it for the last few hours it appears to beat Sky hands down features-wise. :tu::tu:

AndyCambs 26-10-2008 03:07

Re: TV cheaper with Virgin than Sky?
 
I think Virgin Media wins hands down with the Catch up TV which now includes all the BBC I-Player content. It's so very useful if you forgot to record a programme. (and where there's nothing on television to watch - but you scan what has been on in the previous week). That's worth the change really.

MrB 26-10-2008 08:15

Re: TV cheaper with Virgin than Sky?
 
Catch up would be even more excellent if they managed to secure the ITV and Five catch up services as well - any news if/wen this is likely to happen (this is where I go onto the next thread and find the answer no doubt ... ;) ).

MrB

demented 26-10-2008 10:13

Re: TV cheaper with Virgin than Sky?
 
Five catchup has/is launching on BT vision, so maybe Five would have a catch up service on virgin media in the next 2 or 3 years.

Glad you're happy with the service Pia, hope the good feelings don't rub off too quickly!

Maggy 26-10-2008 10:43

Re: TV cheaper with Virgin than Sky?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Pia (Post 34661428)
Okay so i called Sky a while back now and told them i wanted to cancel as i wanted to go with Virgin for all 3 services, one hour later and she talks me out of cancelling even though they offered me a rubbish 3 month deal of a downgraded packge @ £3 per month....

I declined the offer and said i wanted to still cancel but she told me to go and think about it as i didn't seem to have made my mind up :confused:

Before this though, i had already arranged for VM TV to be installed @ £30, costing around £13 per month for the Sky equivalent of £22 per month.

I forgot to call Sky back, to give my 30 days notice and today the VM installer turned up to install my cable TV.... Now i have both services and my plan to save money hasn't worked at all because i'm going to have to pay Sky for this next month that i'm not even using it :mad::mad::mad::mad:

I'm thinking about cancelling my direct debit for Sky and writing a letter to say i wanted to cancel ASAP and was guilted out of it so can i please have it disconnected as of now... and hope to get away with paying them for the 30 day notice period!

As for the Virgin TV, i am VERY pleasantly surprised, after using it for the last few hours it appears to beat Sky hands down features-wise. :tu::tu:

No Pia that would affect your credit rating so don't try it.

Right Pia you need to work out your 'script' beforehand and just keep repeating it until they take NO for an answer...just like you would with your son.So imagine that the person on the other end of the line is 12 years old and you are mum and you are being an adult and making an adult choice.Be assertive not aggressive,don't lose your temper but refuse to consider any options or choices offered.Be quite clear you hold them responsible for you having to pay out for an extra month and that it was a large part of why you are leaving at this particular point.

Now go get them tiger....;)

lemarsh 26-10-2008 11:00

Re: TV cheaper with Virgin than Sky?
 
agree with Maggy's theory. I had a major issue with them, where they would not accept my word to cancel an account (I pay the bill, am authorised on the account, can downgrade the account etc) - but point blank refused, as my ex could not cancel (not in contact) and in her name.

Eventually they seem to have agreed, as out of the blue came a letter from them advising cancellation at the date I had already agreed to (1 month after my initial contact with them) - and advising I could return at any time (the chances are less than ho hope!!).

You will seem like you are hitting your head against a brick wall - but with me it did come down eventually.

Arthurgray50@blu 26-10-2008 18:18

Re: TV cheaper with Virgin than Sky?
 
Hi Maggyj, do yourself a favour, if the problem is with Sky, call them and explain the situation to them, and l can assure you, if you want to stay with VM, and NOT with Sky, speak to Sky, and l am certain, they will cancel the card, there amd then, as the equipment is yours (l assume you bought the equipment) and you wil, still have freesat from Sky, l have Sky, and they are not as bad as people say, l downgraded Sky, and they accepted my decision, They do, do special deals for customers, that come from VM.

I am not trying to sell Sky, but they are much better at cs than VM.:)

Whatever, you do, don't stop making payments, AS you will be placed on the credit file, ITS AUTOMATIC.

Mick Fisher 29-10-2008 19:37

Re: TV cheaper with Virgin than Sky?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu (Post 34662049)
I am not trying to sell Sky, but they are much better at cs than VM.:)

After over a year now with Sky+ I have to agree. :tu:

I was able to get a channel mix from Sky that was much more suited to my needs than I could with VM. It also worked out considerably cheaper for me too.

As my reception of VM DTV was atrociously bad, Sky, so far, for me, has been a win, win solution.

I live in hopes that it will continue in the same way.

lemarsh 29-10-2008 19:58

Re: TV cheaper with Virgin than Sky?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mick Fisher (Post 34664474)
After over a year now with Sky+ I have to agree. :tu:

I was able to get a channel mix from Sky that was much more suited to my needs than I could with VM. It also worked out considerably cheaper for me too.

As my reception of VM DTV was atrociously bad, Sky, so far, for me, has been a win, win solution.

I live in hopes that it will continue in the same way.

Just to show we can all disagree - swapped from Sky to VM a few months ago, and would never go back. iplayer, additional capacity on V+ box, able to record 2 and watch another, free videos (XL), box owned by Virgin, so if it fails in 4 years time - then just get a free replacement (as opposed to buying a new one).

Don't get me wrong, there are a number of things I would prefer on Sky - HD (pathetic on VM), ability to use TV Eyes (and control box from another location), ability to use RF output (using HDMI) so able to split the output around the house, but overall VM over Sky anyday. And it is a lot cheaper for me, with more channels (Setanta sports free).


All times are GMT. The time now is 21:27.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2026, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
All Posts and Content are © Cable Forum