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|Kippa| 30-07-2008 18:15

Who will pay for docsis 3 modems?
 
Just curious, when the new docsis 3 standard comes in we will all need new modems to use it. I am just wondering who will pay for them. Will we get them for free or will we have to play for them. If we have to pay for them, roughly how much will it cost to get a docsis 3 compatible modem?

eth01 30-07-2008 18:23

Re: Who will pay for docsis 3 modems?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by |Kippa| (Post 34611260)
Just curious, when the new docsis 3 standard comes in we will all need new modems to use it. I am just wondering who will pay for them. Will we get them for free or will we have to play for them. If we have to pay for them, roughly how much will it cost to get a docsis 3 compatible modem?

eventually. but no, it won't be free..... btw, it doesn't work like that either.

cimt 30-07-2008 18:32

Re: Who will pay for docsis 3 modems?
 
I think that docsis 3 is for 20 and 50Mb users. So we all won't need to get a modem.

Kymmy 30-07-2008 18:48

Re: Who will pay for docsis 3 modems?
 
And as with the 10Mb upgrade if you do need a new modem (because you;re upgrading) the NTL should provide one especially as they always still own the modem.

Kymmy

Sirius 30-07-2008 18:54

Re: Who will pay for docsis 3 modems?
 
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Originally Posted by cimt (Post 34611277)
I think that docsis 3 is for 20 and 50Mb users. So we all won't need to get a modem.

If it is the docsis 3 50 MB service then a new modem will be required as it is a channel bonded service. Ambit 250 and 255 modems are only capable of Docsis 2 and below, They also do not have the bonded channel capability. 250 and above modems will work on Docsis 3 platforms but only to docsis 2 standards. That is how i am led to believe they intend to allow 20 meg users on to the Docsis 3 platform, But NOT at 50 meg level.

|Kippa| 30-07-2008 18:58

Re: Who will pay for docsis 3 modems?
 
Thanks for the input, much appreciated.

BenMcr 30-07-2008 19:07

Re: Who will pay for docsis 3 modems?
 
As has been said, you will need a new modem, but the cost to provide it to customers will be factored into the 50Mb monthly price.

dev 30-07-2008 19:38

Re: Who will pay for docsis 3 modems?
 
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Originally Posted by BenMcr (Post 34611294)
As has been said, you will need a new modem, but the cost to provide it to customers will be factored into the 50Mb monthly price.

that's what i expect, the early adopters help pay for the technology being used and i also expect the monthly price to drop in a year or so

whydoIneedatech 30-07-2008 22:14

Re: Who will pay for docsis 3 modems?
 
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Originally Posted by dev (Post 34611316)
that's what i expect, the early adopters help pay for the technology being used and i also expect the monthly price to drop in a year or so

The price will drop when you see a flying pig;)

BenMcr 31-07-2008 01:09

Re: Who will pay for docsis 3 modems?
 
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Originally Posted by dev (Post 34611316)
that's what i expect, the early adopters help pay for the technology being used and i also expect the monthly price to drop in a year or so

But recent history shows that isn't what cable does with the broadband. Instead they increase the service for the price you pay.

I'm sure someone can correct me if I'm wrong, but even when ntl introduced modem broadband, there wasn't price drop for the existing STB broadband options, just a new cheaper/slower tier was introduced (at £17.99 rather than £24.99).

Graham M 31-07-2008 01:32

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whydoIneedatech 31-07-2008 08:09

Re: Who will pay for docsis 3 modems?
 
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Originally Posted by Graham M (Post 34611652)

I thought Kymmy would have beat you to post a flying pig.:)

Posting is not seeing one though;)

Graham M 31-07-2008 11:05

Re: Who will pay for docsis 3 modems?
 
I took that photo just before I posted it :p:

Kymmy 31-07-2008 11:31

Re: Who will pay for docsis 3 modems?
 
Hey, it's just been around here as well

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deed02392 06-08-2008 00:06

Re: Who will pay for docsis 3 modems?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by |Kippa| (Post 34611260)
Just curious, when the new docsis 3 standard comes in we will all need new modems to use it. I am just wondering who will pay for them. Will we get them for free or will we have to play for them. If we have to pay for them, roughly how much will it cost to get a docsis 3 compatible modem?

Yes! All your 20Mb Pirates must play for the right to own and become a 50Mb pirate! YOU TWO, FIGHT TO THE DEATH.

You want 50Mb, don't you ¬¬

Millay 06-08-2008 00:14

Re: Who will pay for docsis 3 modems?
 
Sorry bit confused, but are Virgin not already installing docsis 3 capable modems..

I will admit this comes from one of the few customers who pays for a 20mb line and gets it...

but i ave just recently moved and my service with it... i guessed the modems now support docsis 3...?

BenMcr 06-08-2008 00:55

Re: Who will pay for docsis 3 modems?
 
Nope. All the current modems Virgin suppy are a maximum of DOCSIS 2 only

The DOCSIS 3 version will only be issued to 50Mb customers to start with

If you are a 20Mb/XL customer and upgrade to 50Mb you would get a new modem as part of the upgrade.

I am assuming the DOCSIS 3 modems are backwards compatible, so you then wouldn't need yet another new modem if you went back to 20Mb or below

Impz2002 06-08-2008 10:06

Re: Who will pay for docsis 3 modems?
 
A DOCSIS 3 modem is capable of running on a DOCSIS 1 / 2 network too so if you downgraded you could keep the exsisting modem.

Impz

eth01 06-08-2008 10:43

Re: Who will pay for docsis 3 modems?
 
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Originally Posted by Impz2002 (Post 34615681)
A DOCSIS 3 modem is capable of running on a DOCSIS 1 / 2 network too so if you downgraded you could keep the exsisting modem.

Impz

Of course. Which is probably what'll happen imo.

Zhadnost 06-08-2008 19:16

Re: Who will pay for docsis 3 modems?
 
Hows about, when they send out the new modems, they include packaging to send back the old modems, If I upgrade It'd mean that I have 2 unused modems sat in my loft that I don't want to bin because they don't belong to me.

(mind you, where I used to work I had a cupboard full of the bloody things that have presumably ended up in a landfill).

BenMcr 06-08-2008 20:02

Re: Who will pay for docsis 3 modems?
 
They already do that if they swap the modem for speed issues.

whydoIneedatech 06-08-2008 20:03

Re: Who will pay for docsis 3 modems?
 
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Originally Posted by Zhadnost (Post 34615947)
Hows about, when they send out the new modems, they include packaging to send back the old modems, If I upgrade It'd mean that I have 2 unused modems sat in my loft that I don't want to bin because they don't belong to me.

(mind you, where I used to work I had a cupboard full of the bloody things that have presumably ended up in a landfill).

They will never ask for those modems back as they will be to old to be re-used, if you ever go to your local tip you can put them in the recycling skip for electronic devices.

Or you could just bin them.


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