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Osem 13-06-2008 14:11

Teacher sacked for removing shirt in class
 
Heard this guy interviewed on BBC radio a short time ago and have some sympathy for him. A stupid act no doubt but worthy of a sacking? What do you think?

BTW, his account was rather less titillating than the headline in the link I found suggests but that's no surprise is it - it makes much better copy for them this way.......

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...ned-class.html

kryogenik 13-06-2008 14:15

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Oh dear. That probably wasn't a great idea!
But I guess if it wasn't dealt with pretty severely there'd be a certain greying of parameters eventually, surely?

Russ 13-06-2008 14:29

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Justified IMO. Had a female teacher done the same then she'd have been sacked too.

Maggy 13-06-2008 14:31

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That was very inappropriate behaviour..The teacher was rather stupid and should have known better.

punky 13-06-2008 14:38

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Quote:

'make sure your not eating when ur wachin this
I think they need to sack the English teacher as well.

Still, its to be expected. Sacking this teacher is far quicker and easier than having to deal the problem of unruly school children in the first place.

Quote:

It was quite shocking but pupils thought it was hilarious.'

...

During the strip, pupils can be heard laughing, cheering and screaming. One girl shouts out "Oh my god!" followed by "Bless him".
The poor traumatised dears.


I've had a lot of teachers over the years and by far the best ones were the most unconventional and the ones you could have a laugh with. Destroying his teaching career wouldn't do anyone any good.

Mr_love_monkey 13-06-2008 14:44

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Originally Posted by Russ B (Post 34574648)
Justified IMO. Had a female teacher done the same then she'd have been sacked too.

yeah, but I'd be more inclined to watch that video

Osem 13-06-2008 14:47

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My personal view is that a suspension would have been a more suitable punishment. Since it's all on youtube he'll find it hard to live down whereever he goes.

handyman 13-06-2008 16:00

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What is the world coming to. I can understand if he took his trousers off that would be considered bad taste but this was very tame and I think the Head Teacher over reacted.

Caff 13-06-2008 16:11

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A bad decision by the teacher I feel.
Teachers are acting 'in loco parentis'.

If one of my children had come home from school and showed me the video I'd be seriously concerned.
He may well have raised a few giggles and grabbed the pupils' attention but it was undignified and not an example of a good role model in my opinion. He's their TEACHER not their friend.

But I bet none of the pupils will forget that lesson :D

handyman 13-06-2008 16:16

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Originally Posted by scuzz (Post 34574756)
A bad decision by the teacher I feel.
Teachers are acting 'in loco parentis'.

If one of my children had come home from school and showed me the video I'd be seriously concerned.
He may well have raised a few giggles and grabbed the pupils' attention but it was undignified and not an example of a good role model in my opinion. He's their TEACHER not their friend.

But I bet none of the pupils will forget that lesson :D

Concerned enough to ruin a mans career?

There are 2 types of teachers IMHO, Those that stand at the front and lecture in boring way and those that take it upon themselves to try and engage the students and actually teach them this man seems to fall in to the 2nd catagory.

I had more respect for the latter approach as well.

slowcoach 13-06-2008 16:19

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I hope this doesn't get all the older blokes, who appear to be wearing short pants all year round, stripping off.
God, don't some blokes have horrible legs. You even see some with the wife in tow, desperate isn't the word.

Caff 13-06-2008 16:20

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Originally Posted by handyman (Post 34574761)
Concerned enough to ruin a mans career?

There are 2 types of teachers IMHO, Those that stand at the front and lecture in boring way and those that take it upon themselves to try and engage the students and actually teach them this man seems to fall in to the 2nd catagory.

I had more respect for the latter approach as well.


There's a very fine line in teaching as well as in parenting.......... I've done lots of silly, entertaining things in my teaching years............ taking my kit off wouldn't be one of them - much to everyone's relief :D

And have got, along with other parents, a secondary school PE teacher sacked for totally unappropriate behaviour in the showers.

Maggy 13-06-2008 16:26

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I'm sorry but this is inappropriate behaviour for ANYONE dealing with children...However well meaning and whatever gender.:(

Osem 13-06-2008 20:18

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I don't think anyone seriously thinks it was acceptable, just that the punishment may have been a tad excessive. From what I heard iof the teacher's radio interview, some of the children's actions weren't acceptable either but have they been punished as severely?

budwieser 13-06-2008 20:35

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;)Why is there such an over reaction to this?
Would people be maybe happier letting a teacher , teach in class who had radical views?
For gods sake, the guy took off his shirt and ****ed about a bit and the pupils had a good laugh with/ at the teacher, no harm done. I used to have teachers who were a bit of a laugh, we respected them more than some.;)

tweetypie/8 13-06-2008 20:39

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Osem (Post 34574630)
Heard this guy interviewed on BBC radio a short time ago and have some sympathy for him. A stupid act no doubt but worthy of a sacking? What do you think?

BTW, his account was rather less titillating than the headline in the link I found suggests but that's no surprise is it - it makes much better copy for them this way.......

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...ned-class.html

he would have been better keeping that nelly kelly covered.;)

Maggy 13-06-2008 20:42

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Originally Posted by budwieser (Post 34574975)
;)Why is there such an over reaction to this?
Would people be maybe happier letting a teacher , teach in class who had radical views?
For gods sake, the guy took off his shirt and ****ed about a bit and the pupils had a good laugh with/ at the teacher, no harm done. I used to have teachers who were a bit of a laugh, we respected them more than some.;)

Sigh!

It is inappropriate behaviour for a teacher.That is it in a nutshell.:shrug:

If he had been in any other profession a lesser punishment would have been fine.

Surely you expect there to be higher standards for teachers? :confused: :shrug:

As a parent and a teacher I do.

alferret 14-06-2008 09:14

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Originally Posted by budwieser (Post 34574975)
;)Why is there such an over reaction to this?
Would people be maybe happier letting a teacher , teach in class who had radical views?
For gods sake, the guy took off his shirt and ****ed about a bit and the pupils had a good laugh with/ at the teacher, no harm done. I used to have teachers who were a bit of a laugh, we respected them more than some.;)

I agree, in the UK today so many mountains are made out of mole hills (well in his case a hillock judging by the size of his girth) but never the less no harm was done, no one was injured although a few nightmares may have been had.

It is sad that we as a nation are being repressed by bureaucracy for small misdemeanour's.
Hell were being repressed full stop by this government.
I hear there is going to be a green tax on farting due to its composition and adding to global warming.

Osem 14-06-2008 09:58

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The guy was interviewed and the subject of a phone in on Radio 5 last night. He seemed very sincere and admitted that with hindsight he shouldn't have done it. I was surprised by the relatively small number of people who thought the disciplinary action was fair. A number of experienced teachers rang in and IIRC only one felt the matter had been handled properly. Although the guy is a supply teacher and has only lost this contract as it were, I can't help thinking that job offers won't be flooding in after this, which is probably a pity for all concerned.

Jon T 14-06-2008 10:11

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I'm not a teacher(my mum is though), but what I do know is that to be a teacher to have to maintain a certain proffesional appearance/detatchment infront of you pupils.

I also know that there's a certain kind of kid who will do anything to destroy a teacher/get under their skin once they get an angle/device to do so. This chaps actions could provide such an avenue for any kids of this disposition.

His teaching career may be over(which some of you regard as overkill), but maybe, just maybe he actualy can't take the pressure of bieng a teacher of today's kids. Perhaps what has happened to him may be for the best. Give him chance to look at other careers.

Osem 14-06-2008 12:29

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Originally Posted by Jon T (Post 34575281)
I'm not a teacher(my mum is though), but what I do know is that to be a teacher to have to maintain a certain proffesional appearance/detatchment infront of you pupils.

I also know that there's a certain kind of kid who will do anything to destroy a teacher/get under their skin once they get an angle/device to do so. This chaps actions could provide such an avenue for any kids of this disposition.

His teaching career may be over(which some of you regard as overkill), but maybe, just maybe he actualy can't take the pressure of bieng a teacher of today's kids. Perhaps what has happened to him may be for the best. Give him chance to look at other careers.

Well apparently his action was intended to and did defuse a potentially aggressive situation with a troublemaker. He's had 25 years teaching experience with no similar problems apparently so not much evidence of a failure to cope. Sadly, I doubt he was fully aware of the power of YouTube though.

Although it's not available yet, anyone who wants to hear the interview broadcast on Richard Bacon's show last night should be able to find it here in the the near future:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio/aod/netwo...udiolist.shtml

Jon T 14-06-2008 12:45

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Originally Posted by Osem (Post 34575332)
Well apparently his action was intended to and did defuse a potentially aggressive situation with a troublemaker.

In which case, coupled with the amount of teaching experience he has, he should be familar with, shall we say more "conventional" conflict resolution/diffusion techniques.

BTW, sorry for my apalling spelling/grammar in my previous post, i'd not long since woken up.

Osem 14-06-2008 13:05

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Originally Posted by Jon T (Post 34575339)
In which case, coupled with the amount of teaching experience he has, he should be familar with, shall we say more "conventional" conflict resolution/diffusion techniques.

BTW, sorry for my apalling spelling/grammar in my previous post, i'd not long since woken up.

If you get a chance, listen to the interview when it appears (link posted above).

budwieser 14-06-2008 15:01

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Jon T (Post 34575339)
In which case, coupled with the amount of teaching experience he has, he should be familar with, shall we say more "conventional" conflict resolution/diffusion techniques.

BTW, sorry for my apalling spelling/grammar in my previous post, i'd not long since woken up.

And your Mother a Teacher as well. :dozey::nono::D


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