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Enuff 20-05-2008 19:11

A record 164,635 people were granted British citizenship last year
 
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The Tories expressed concern at the figures, saying "the public will be alarmed that passports are being handed out at such a rate."

Separate Home Office figures showed the number of asylum applications in the first three months of 2008 rose 16% on the same period last year to 6,595.
BBC

Wicked_and_Crazy 20-05-2008 20:32

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i guess thats counter balanced by the record numbers emigrating

Osem 20-05-2008 20:58

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Originally Posted by Enuff (Post 34556417)

Yeah...... now who was it who claimed they'd got on top of the asylum problem once and for all ???? ............. Oh that's right, it was New/Old/NearlyNew/SameOld Labour when they decided to hand out work permits to discourage people from claiming asylum. :mad:

"People in Britain welcome legal migrants who work hard and play by the rules," Immigration Minister Liam Byrne said. "But we will not tolerate law breakers, which is why we will prioritise their expulsion from Britain."

Yeah, that'll be why the numbers of failed asylum seekers removed fell by 13% then..... :confused: Not more rhetoric, lies and spin surely.......

BBKing 20-05-2008 22:45

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I think they should start at the top and restrict the largest group of immigrants to this country first. Which nationality was that? Ah yes:

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1 British 177,000
Remember that next time the Mail screams about '600,000 immigrants a year', not only are 1 in 4 actually British but only 6000 were asylum seekers. Osem might like to ponder that last statistic before he conflates asylum and immigration in the usual tabloid knucklehead way again (yes, I am having a go, deservedly).

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7411205.stm

the-cable-guy 20-05-2008 22:46

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Originally Posted by Enuff (Post 34556417)
The Tories expressed concern at the figures, saying "the public will be alarmed that passports are being handed out at such a rate."

Separate Home Office figures showed the number of asylum applications in the first three months of 2008 rose 16% on the same period last year to 6,595.


yeah well that program about UK born workers not getting British jobs kinda sums it up.

Osem 21-05-2008 09:00

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Originally Posted by BBKing (Post 34556575)
I think they should start at the top and restrict the largest group of immigrants to this country first. Which nationality was that? Ah yes:



Remember that next time the Mail screams about '600,000 immigrants a year', not only are 1 in 4 actually British but only 6000 were asylum seekers. Osem might like to ponder that last statistic before he conflates asylum and immigration in the usual tabloid knucklehead way again (yes, I am having a go, deservedly).
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7411205.stm

BBKing might like to stop conflating asylum removal and migration issues and get out of this serious habit of bringing tabloids into just about every argument in case people start to write him off as a one trick pony. Given the amount of references he makes to them people might start to think he spends quite a lot of his time with his head buried in tabloids. Perhaps that accounts for his obssession...... The fact that the asylum removal figures I quoted came from the BBC link provided NOT a 'tabloid' source seems to have missed him but then he needed some method by which to mention his favourite subject yet again didn't he..... yawn.......

zing_deleted 21-05-2008 09:05

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Hey lets keep the lefties happy and let them all in after all this country is doing just fine isnt it

Enuff 21-05-2008 09:41

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Originally Posted by zinglebarb (Post 34556694)
Hey lets keep the lefties happy and let them all in after all this country is doing just fine isnt it

It sure is Zing... it sure is... Time for my medication. https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...2008/05/35.jpg http://www.wellcoolstuff.com/Merchan...ster_10350.jpg

Xaccers 21-05-2008 10:01

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Originally Posted by zinglebarb (Post 34556694)
Hey lets keep the lefties happy and let them all in after all this country is doing just fine isnt it

Well it would be, if it wasn't for some indiginous caucasians...


Blair, Brown, Blears, Prescott, Miliband, Kelly, Smith...

Osem 21-05-2008 12:03

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Originally Posted by Xaccers (Post 34556730)
Well it would be, if it wasn't for some indiginous caucasians...


Blair, Brown, Blears, Prescott, Miliband, Kelly, Smith...

Oooooppppppssssss - you forgot a few: Darling, Straw, Clarke, Reid, Blunkett, Mandelson, Prescott, Hain, Robinson, Hoon, Harman, Browne, Hewitt, phew!.... the list is almost endless...... :D

zing_deleted 21-05-2008 13:07

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Originally Posted by Xaccers (Post 34556730)
Well it would be, if it wasn't for some indiginous caucasians...


Blair, Brown, Blears, Prescott, Miliband, Kelly, Smith...

you honestly really think so?and here was me actually thinking you were an intellectual.BTW I do not know for sure but my google spellchecker says you made a mistake with indigenous but it could be American different spelling

Xaccers 21-05-2008 18:21

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Originally Posted by zinglebarb (Post 34556831)
you honestly really think so?and here was me actually thinking you were an intellectual.BTW I do not know for sure but my google spellchecker says you made a mistake with indigenous but it could be American different spelling

New keyboard, haven't disciplined the keys yet, they still jump around, especially the vowels.

Being an intellectual is why I know that those mentioned by osem and myself are behind some of the reasons why things aren't going fine.
Or do you believe their doing a tip top job at running the country? (into the ground)

zing_deleted 22-05-2008 08:20

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No but im also aware that the country isnt manageable with the system of government we have in place. To many power hungry egocentrics just sit in a big room earning thousands arguing over who's policies are better.
It will not matter what party is in power the country will still be in a mess. The economy goes up does really well then crashes The party in power at the time gets the blame loses the election and a new party gets in struggles for a while but then the economy picks up a bit they say its them and they start to have a better time of it for a while till the next problems start and the economy suffers and then they get the blame and lose an election. Can you see the pattern?

Saaf_laandon_mo 22-05-2008 10:14

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Originally Posted by zinglebarb (Post 34556694)
Hey lets keep the lefties happy and let them all in after all this country is doing just fine isnt it


Or we could keep you happy and put burning tyres round their necks ala Africa - judging from your views in another thread.

Enuff 22-05-2008 10:48

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Ye, why are nearly all polititians crap at their job? Especially the ones at the top.

Imagine if people in other professions were just as crap at their job, such as Brain Surgeon, Pilot, Knife Thrower (and other dangerous jobs), Virgin Media Customer Support (OK maybe not that one). ;) Wouldn't the poeple in these professions be instantly sacked or imprissoned even? (Apart from the Pilot maybe, cos he'd most probably be dead).

Surely all Polititians are in it just for the power and the money, they don't give a tosh about the country.

We need and this country needs professional Polititians who arn't hungry for power and money. A Polititian that'll put the great back into Britain. A Polititian that'll carry out it's promises once they're in control. (not a cat in hells chance of that happening!).

As far as i'm concerned, nearly all Politians are - selfish, cheating, greedy, ignorant people, who only seem to care when they need your vote. Because it's your vote that gives them even more power and more money.

You would think people would have learned not to trust any of them by now. But, like lambs to the slaughter, we just carry-on letting these criminals destroy everything!

It's been going on far too long now, many people are becoming aware and are starting to latch on to what these so-called Polititians are really in it for, and it's definately not to benefit us.

Outcome: I dread to think!... There's no going back to how things used to be, that's for sure. The only route to real change, is a long and drawn out bloody one. :(

frogstamper 22-05-2008 12:56

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Originally Posted by zinglebarb (Post 34556694)
Hey lets keep the lefties happy and let them all in after all this country is doing just fine isnt it

A lot of people are going to be mighty disappointed if the Tories ever get back in, because I'd like to bet things will only change superficially, if at all, just like they did when Labour got in ten years ago.

Xaccers 22-05-2008 13:12

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Originally Posted by frogstamper (Post 34557561)
A lot of people are going to be mighty disappointed if the Tories ever get back in, because I'd like to bet things will only change superficially, if at all, just like they did when Labour got in ten years ago.

It's possible.
I'm keeping my fingers crossed it won't be and they'll have learnt from NuLabour's mistakes, but we won't know until we get them into government.

I'm certainly not like the Labour Luvvies who went wild about TB as though he was some saviour who could do no wrong.
I have my own ideas as to what the conservative party should be and stand for, sometimes it matches the party line, sometimes it doesn't.
I'm certainly not affraid to point out where mistakes are made simply because I vote for them.

zing_deleted 22-05-2008 13:19

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Originally Posted by Saaf_laandon_mo (Post 34557434)
Or we could keep you happy and put burning tyres round their necks ala Africa - judging from your views in another thread.

yeah why not

SMHarman 22-05-2008 16:33

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Originally Posted by Wicked_and_Crazy (Post 34556466)
i guess thats counter balanced by the record numbers emigrating

:erm::Sprint::wavey:

the-cable-guy 22-05-2008 17:48

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Originally Posted by SMHarman (Post 34557730)
:erm::Sprint::wavey:

roflmao

frogstamper 22-05-2008 18:22

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Originally Posted by Xaccers (Post 34557570)
It's possible.
I'm keeping my fingers crossed it won't be and they'll have learnt from NuLabour's mistakes, but we won't know until we get them into government.

I'm certainly not like the Labour Luvvies who went wild about TB as though he was some saviour who could do no wrong.
I have my own ideas as to what the conservative party should be and stand for, sometimes it matches the party line, sometimes it doesn't.
I'm certainly not affraid to point out where mistakes are made simply because I vote for them.

I totally agree with what your saying Xaccers, its just that I remember this atmosphere in the dying days of the Major government, people just thought everything would change with a new government. In the 80s I voted Tory and grew to despise them, then it seems to me history has repeated itself, where by I voted Labour in the last three elections, and I've come to feel the same way about this present shower. I've sadly come to the conclusion that all politicians, once in power will say or do almost anything to hang on to that power, sadly I'm not sure what the answer is, but the constant cycle of Labour then Tory and on and on doesn't seem to be working, for me at least.

Xaccers 22-05-2008 18:24

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Originally Posted by frogstamper (Post 34557817)
I voted Labour in the last three elections

Ah, so it's all your fault! :D

frogstamper 22-05-2008 18:34

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Originally Posted by Xaccers (Post 34557819)
Ah, so it's all your fault! :D

Afraid so.....in hiding somewhere on the south coast.:p:

SMHarman 22-05-2008 18:45

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Originally Posted by frogstamper (Post 34557826)
Afraid so.....in hiding somewhere on the south coast.:p:

<----- Brighton maybe???

Xaccers 22-05-2008 19:37

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Originally Posted by frogstamper (Post 34557826)
Afraid so.....in hiding somewhere on the south coast.:p:

I'd hunt you down, but I'd only get side tracked in Dave's Comics :)

3 times though? I mean, come on, fool me once and all that, but 3 times? tsk. Hang your head in shame ;)

frogstamper 23-05-2008 03:04

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Originally Posted by Xaccers (Post 34557889)
I'd hunt you down, but I'd only get side tracked in Dave's Comics :)

3 times though? I mean, come on, fool me once and all that, but 3 times? tsk. Hang your head in shame ;)

The irony is I didn't want to vote for Blair in the last election, but when I looked at old Dracula I took the route of lesser of two evils. Now as far as I'm aware, all the old Tories from the 80s and 90s are have been put out to pasture, so from my point of view they are looking more electable.

Osem 23-05-2008 08:51

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Now there's a surprise:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/7415261.stm

Apparently the Office for National Statistics had estimated 43,000 short-term migrants in England and Wales between June 2004 and June 2005 but the committee claimed that was implausible since there were well over 200,000 new Nat. Ins. no. registrations in London alone!

The committee said "statistics for 2005 on international migration were based on "a very small sample" of interviews with 2,965 people entering the UK and 781 who left.

That'd be about right!

:rolleyes:


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