Virgin Media for Pubs?
 

I tried to find a part for this on the site, and Google, but found nothing.

Is there a pricing structure for this? Its something we are looking into in the future, but when we manage to get into a Public House, we want to pay the least to show Football in the Pub, and I have heard Sky is a lot of money.

Cheers! :)

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Sky won't let you show the games in a commercial premises without extracting a good wedge from you. If Virgin do do commercial premises, then they will have to charge you Sky's commercial rates for the channels.

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And they wonder why many Pubs pick European Digital.

http://business.sky.com/pubs_packages.asp

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.....or Setanta's?

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Pubs show football to bring in punters don't they? Sky are just making sure they grab their share.

No idea if commercial premises pay more for Setantas channels though.

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I know footie pulls the punters, but dont you think its a little over the top?

I mean, Price of a pint, £2.50. Punters, 80, lets say. 2 Pints per head. £400. 4 Weekends in a Month, £1,600. Sky request £2,585 for the Full Sky Pack, including Setanta Sports.

For an extra £5, you can upgrade to Sky HD.

So, £1,000 profit a month from one establishment to provide them with Sports and Entertainment? And thats satisfactory?

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Its supply and demand. Sky can only get away with it as some places are willing to pay their prices. Its a big business, so thats why Sky Pub sports channels get their own onscreen pint glass graphic so simple checks can be done anonymously by someone popping in for a pint.

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Why not forget the football on Tv altogether and create a team in your pub to play against each other. Ofcourse, you are there for the pre-match drinks, the good food to get the team fit and healthy and then the victory drinks at the end. Everyone's happy.

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Lets just say when it comes to football, I have some ideas and prizes planned.

Just wanted to get the Footie in there for the peeps to watch. Its a shame its expensive, but if we got somewhere that pulled profit of a margin in which we could have all the cake and eat it, we'd get the Sports channels.

At the moment, though, I think that remains the last Priority. Two and a half grand is a lot of money to lose a month... so Id have to make sure we pulled in the heads to pay for the demand.

I suppose the only thing to look forward to is the next round of bidding wars for the rights.

You never know, Sky might lost most or all the rights, and then I'd be in a sticky situation trying to find a new deal.

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with Sky you have to get a special licence which i red somewhere costs £400 p/w a pub in the UK brought a subscription to Sky from an overseas retailer on the internet & got sued by Sky for doing so. Sky have a channel for pubs called The Pub Channel. i used to live next to a pub & they had NTL so you can get it but i dont know anymore info about it sorry.

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? why dont you buy a subscription to a European satellite tv operator ? although officially you cant subscribe to them official cards can be brought on the internet & as your not living in their country they cant fine or charge you more for being a pub. also it'l cost alot less then Sky or VM would charge you ;) Premiere Sport 1 & Premiere Sport 2 are examples. if you want English commentary Arab or African channels are the ones to go for. there are also some FTA sports channels: Dubai Sports Channel, NASN Europe, Al Jazeera Sports, Al Jazeera Sports 2, NBA Action, NBA TV, Fox Sports Africa, Gear One, Xleague.tv, Audi Channel, The Fight Network, Eurosport & Eurosport 2. have a look here for whats out there & on what satellites they are on: http://en.kingofsat.net/

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NTL stopped doing commercial subscriptions for TV in 2006. Just wasn't financially viable, as the only reason most places had it was for Sports and Sky make all the profit on that lol

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ah ok then i didnt know that.

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Unfortunately, particularly in this town of Blackburn, there is a massive clampdown on European Digital Broadcasting equipment, with much of it being seized by Police and officials.

According to the following link, though, there is actually no law being broken by having these and showing 3pm Games.

But, you can understand why Football Clubs and Leagues dont want them to show 3pm games, because then people would just go to the pub instead of buying a ticket, thus killing the game itself.

http://www.satellites.co.uk/satellit...uipment-3.html

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So, Ben.

If I find my property to be Cable Enabled, could I not just get a normal subscription and use that?

Surely I could state in court that I had cable, and they dont do a commercial subscription, thus keeping me from trouble?

Interesting Quote from the site mentioned:

I mean, Id still prefer cable, but I would go for European before getting Sky, simply because of the price of it!

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No because Virgin's Residential Terms have this clause in them (Section D Part 1h)

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what about a business account from VM

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there was a court case going through te high courts from a pub using european satalites they had already lost one case so there must be a law rather than a FA restriction.

Plus alot of the European stations don't have the rights to broadcast in the UK, although as we know technically you can pick up the signal and watch it

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I'd imagine thats just for broadband and telephony.

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As far as l am aware, if VM went into pubs, there would be an all mighty row, Sky make an absolute fortune out of pubs, l used to work in my local pub, deep cleaning the kitchen, and they got rid of Sky, as the cost of it per month, say for a example a room say of 15 x 12, Sky charge her £1.200 PER MONTH, as Sky go by the size of the pub, l think if VM went there i think there would be major problems.

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For businesses such as pubs and internet cafes,its a bit more hands on as they need to look at usage needs ect.....

Try calling NTL Telewest Business on 0800-052-0800 or www.ntltelewestbusiness.co.uk

Also if you have a BT line in the premises, you can choose which calls you would like to route through NTLTelewest or have one of there lines.

I am sure they provide services in pubs because the one up from my house has Virgin TV installed.

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still as you dont live in their country theres nowt that they can do about it. when i went to both Spain & Greece a few years ago almost every bar had Sky.

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there is no law against it as there is no law against hacking satellite tv services from countries that you dont live in cuz you cant (officially) subscribe to them anyway.

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as i said a few posts back i used to live new door to a pub & they had NTL.

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Also Virgin Media could go take the short cut and broadcast programmes from European stations over existing channels such as Virgin 1. Just like they broadcast Jerry springer on Living for example.

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btw as i listed a few posts back there are a number of FTA sports channels, so if your that worried only watch them as anyone with the correct equipment can hence them being FTA ;)

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they buy the rights to Jerry Springer. however CNBC with NBC Nightly News & ITV2 (used to) with The David Letterman Show for example rebroadcast feeds. however they still have to pay rights in order to do so. one of the only networks in the world that lets them do it for free is VOA TV & WorldNet (which is now owned by VOA TV).

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CNBC have a news channel on Virgin too I think, what ever happened to ABC1?

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CNBC Europe & NBC aint the same channel, NBC is an American network like FOX or CBS. although NBC Nightly News is filmed at NBC's (US) studios CNBC still have to pay rights in order to air it. info on ABC1: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ABC1_(United_Kingdom)

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Thats not the Abc1 that was on Virgin Media channel 161, it was american and it suddenly disappeared.

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sorry i gave the wrong link heres the correct one: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ABC1_(United_Kingdom) however there is no American ABC1.

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They do indeed - I believe at the place I work, we pay around £1000 extra a year on top of the basis Sky Sports sub to get Setanta. It all depends whether I will pull the extra trade in to make it worthwhile or not.

This is through Sky of course, not VM, just to avoid any confusion.

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yes they charge extra for the Setanta Sports channels in commercial premisses.

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the blackout ruling comes down from UEFA

http://www.uefa.com/uefa/news/kind=8...sid=19817.html

Not sure if I would want to challenge them to see if this help up under UK law

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Just a note on the financials someone worked out - most of the best football is on weekdays not just weekends - champions league etc. plus there are other sports pubs can draw punters in on.

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that mite be so but £400+ p/w is daylight robbery.

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I agree.

Plus, when it comes to Champions League football, ITV, ITV2 and ITV4 show them also.

Football is the main event in sports, especially in pubs.

I mean, yea, Rugby is there, but you dont get the audience as you would for Footie.

Also, Tennis? Golf? Even Horse Racing doesnt pull corwds in.

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to be fair horse racing is more for betting shops & most of them have motorised satellite dishes for showing feeds in their shops.