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Marcel 23-04-2008 19:46

Sub-titles for TV5 programmes
 
I have been trying to obtain sub-titles to TV5 programmes for a long time without much success. TV5 say that some programmes are provided with them but cannot indicate when and at what time these are shown.
Could someone assist with solving this problem? TV5 can only say that they may give such information sometime in the future.
Is this because the French do not provide or are unable to provide sub-titles to programmes?

punky 23-04-2008 22:35

Re: Sub-titles for TV5 programmes
 
Moved to the TV section.

spiderplant 23-04-2008 23:20

Re: Sub-titles for TV5 programmes
 
I've seen subtitles on TV5 a few times. It has teletext subtitles, so you'll need to use your TV remote to select teletext page 888.

Does this help? http://www.tv5.org/TV5Site/programmes/stt.php

ps. Bienvenue sur le forum!

the-cable-guy 23-04-2008 23:47

Re: Sub-titles for TV5 programmes
 
teletext on TV5 on VM doesnt work

frogstamper 24-04-2008 00:00

Re: Sub-titles for TV5 programmes
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Marcel (Post 34536386)
I have been trying to obtain sub-titles to TV5 programmes for a long time without much success. TV5 say that some programmes are provided with them but cannot indicate when and at what time these are shown.
Could someone assist with solving this problem? TV5 can only say that they may give such information sometime in the future.
Is this because the French do not provide or are unable to provide sub-titles to programmes?

I shall say this only once,;) with a name like Marcel why do you need subtitles?

the-cable-guy 24-04-2008 01:00

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lol

Marcel 24-04-2008 10:40

Re: Sub-titles for TV5 programmes
 
Thanks for replies. Problem 1 remains, why can't TV5 indicate when sub-titles are available? Virgin say teletext is only available on analogue channels, so no good for TV5 and a good reason for them is I am deaf.

spiderplant 24-04-2008 14:42

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Marcel (Post 34536869)
Virgin say teletext is only available on analogue channels

I blame poor training :( Teletext is available on many channels on the digital service.

Whereabouts are you, marcel? Teletext is working on TV5 for me. Teletext page 794 tells you which programmes are subtitled (at least, I think it does. My French isn't very good).

Marcel 24-04-2008 17:28

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Spiderplant thanks
I am in the Croydon area, tried teletext on TV5 and just get a band at the bottom red, green, yellow and blue with the number 100 or 794 but no teletext. Is there a time when I should get it? tried at 4.30 today.

spiderplant 24-04-2008 17:46

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The teletext is there all the time.

Does anything happen if you enter a page number with your TV remote? Page 891 has French subtitles on at the moment. ("Mise au point")

Can you get teletext on other channels, such as 132 or 851?

JG3870 24-04-2008 18:12

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Quote:

Originally Posted by spiderplant (Post 34537208)
The teletext is there all the time.

Does anything happen if you enter a page number with your TV remote? Page 891 has French subtitles on at the moment. ("Mise au point")

Can you get teletext on other channels, such as 132 or 851?

It's a regional difference

ex-Telewest areas get Teletext (when you use the remote control for your tv to access the teletext and not the vm remote) but unfortunately i don't think the same thing is available in ex-NTL areas

Marcel 24-04-2008 19:44

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I have just tried 794 and 891 but no teletext for Vie privie, the other two suggested 132 Frasier and 851 BBC again no teletext. This was a Telewest service area before Virgin Media. Any suggestions please

nomadking 24-04-2008 20:28

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I'm in an ex-ntl area and have teletext for TV5 on-screen at this time (19:17).

Select teletext on your TV as you would for an analogue terrestrial channel. Page 100 gives a contents page, pages 794&795 gives into on sub-titles, pages 891-894 are the actual sub-titles in different languages(none of them english).

spiderplant 24-04-2008 22:17

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Quote:

Originally Posted by JG3870 (Post 34537236)
ex-Telewest areas get Teletext (when you use the remote control for your tv to access the teletext and not the vm remote) but unfortunately i don't think the same thing is available in ex-NTL areas

I'm in ex-NTL area and Marcel is ex-Telewest! (Please could someone in an ex-TW area check whether teletext is working on TV5 for you?)

Marcel: You don't have a V+ connected by HDMI or component, do you? If so, you won't get teletext, as it doesn't work on these connections. You would have to switch to SCART.

If you are using a SCART connection, please go into the display settings (home->8->4) and check whether the output is set to RGB or composite. Change the setting, press OK to save, then see whether your teletext works.

the-cable-guy 25-04-2008 00:16

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im in Ex-Telewest & iv never had teletext on TV5 however i do get it for BBC1, BBC2, ITV1, Channel 4, Five, BBC 3, BBC4, BBC News, BBC Parliament, CNN International (Europe), CNBC, Paramount Comedy 1, Paramount Comedy 1 + 1, Paramount Comedy 2, Sci Fi UK, TCM UK, MTV1, VH1, all VM owed channels (only 888 subtitles works) & all UKTV channels (only 888 subtitles works).

Marcel 25-04-2008 19:03

Re: Sub-titles for TV5 programmes
 
Thanks for further info. Setting the Telewest remote to sub-titles I can get all the usual channels with sub-titles but not Tv5 which at the moment is showing advocat at 18.00. Using the TV remote nothing happens when I try all the numbers suggested above incl 100, simply a coloured bar at the bottom.
So can anyone get sub-titles for TV5 in ex-Telewest area?

the-cable-guy 25-04-2008 21:30

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i know this sounds strange but im using hi grade gold plated scart leads & i just tried using the ones that can with my STB & im now getting teletext on TV5 & DW-TV which is very strange as i wasnt before when i was still using the old scart leads. for some reason the high grade scart leads remove teletext as i cant get teletext at all. does anyone know what the reason for this is at all ?

spiderplant 25-04-2008 23:07

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Marcel (Post 34538194)
Setting the Telewest remote to sub-titles I can get all the usual channels with sub-titles but not Tv5 which at the moment is showing advocat at 18.00. Using the TV remote nothing happens when I try all the numbers suggested above incl 100, simply a coloured bar at the bottom.

The STB probably won't be able to display the subtitles itself because they are not on the standard page 888.

Have you tried switching the STB output between RGB and composite to see whether that makes a difference? Which model STB do you have?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marcel (Post 34538194)
So can anyone get sub-titles for TV5 in ex-Telewest area?

Yes, I've had it confirmed from somebody else in the Croydon area. And also the-cable-guy now.

Quote:

Originally Posted by the-cable-guy (Post 34538316)
i know this sounds strange but im using hi grade gold plated scart leads & i just tried using the ones that can with my STB & im now getting teletext on TV5 & DW-TV which is very strange as i wasnt before when i was still using the old scart leads. for some reason the high grade scart leads remove teletext as i cant get teletext at all. does anyone know what the reason for this is at all ?

Some TVs refuse to display teletext when in RGB mode. Maybe your cheap cable only has the composite pins connected. (What on earth gave you the idea to swap cables? :shocked:)

the-cable-guy 26-04-2008 00:22

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the cheap scart leads have RGB so thats what didnt make sense to me. i thought to try the old scart leads as ever since i replaced them with the hi grade ones i haven been able to get teletext. is there anyway to fix this at all using the new scart leads ?

---------- Post added at 23:22 ---------- Previous post was at 23:09 ----------

sorted it was cuz i had my tv connected to my vcr/dvd recorder & not my STB now its working :o)

spiderplant 26-04-2008 11:56

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Ah, so your VCR/DVD was stripping the teletext. Marcel: Is your TV connected directly to the TV?

Marcel 26-04-2008 13:00

Re: Sub-titles for TV5 programmes
 
Thanks for latest spiderplant. It's a step forward to know that someone in my area, Croydon, can get sub-titles on TV5 even if i can't at present. I don't understand your question, "is your TV connected to your TV?"
It's beginning to look necessary for Virgin to sort this out. But not CS or one of their engineers. So far they have said what is TV5? and teletext isn't available on digital channels!

spiderplant 26-04-2008 13:45

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Marcel (Post 34538733)
I don't understand your question, "is your TV connected to your TV?"

Ooops! I meant is the TV connected directly to the STB? (the-cable-guy had his going through his DVD/VCR, which was removing the teletext)

the-cable-guy 27-04-2008 02:49

Re: Sub-titles for TV5 programmes
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by spiderplant (Post 34538705)
Ah, so your VCR/DVD was stripping the teletext. Marcel: Is your TV connected directly to the TV?

it seems that way yeah but i still think that its something to do with the hi grade scart leads as the others dont have this effect no matter how i connect them.

---------- Post added at 01:49 ---------- Previous post was at 01:47 ----------

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marcel (Post 34538733)
Thanks for latest spiderplant. It's a step forward to know that someone in my area, Croydon, can get sub-titles on TV5 even if i can't at present. I don't understand your question, "is your TV connected to your TV?"
It's beginning to look necessary for Virgin to sort this out. But not CS or one of their engineers. So far they have said what is TV5? and teletext isn't available on digital channels!

im not in Croydon tho lol still we're both Ex-Telewest so it should be the same as far as teletext is concerned i would of thought.

Marcel 27-04-2008 19:42

Re: Sub-titles for TV5 programmes
 
Thanks Spiderplant and the-cable-guy. My connection RGB/Composite is to the TV, my STB is Scientific Atlanta Apart from teletext sub-titles is it possible to get Teletext text info on the main digital channels?

spiderplant 27-04-2008 20:39

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So do you use RGB or Composite? (Check in the display settings menu). And which SA box do you have - SA4000, SA4200 or V+?

You should get teletext on many channels. Have a dig about and see what you can find.

the-cable-guy 27-04-2008 21:22

Re: Sub-titles for TV5 programmes
 
me i use RGB so how do i get teletext to work with my hi grade scart leads ?

Marcel 11-05-2008 18:39

Re: Sub-titles for TV5 programmes
 
I have just received the advice of VM about these problems.
They say they don't know why some people get TV5 with sub-titles and not others.
They don't know why I can't get Teletext with page 100 and 794 etc
They also don't why TV5 is unable to provide programme information to indicate which films have sub-titles, if it can be received!
On the upside they say they will look into these matters.

the-cable-guy 11-05-2008 18:42

Re: Sub-titles for TV5 programmes
 
lets hope that they do. i recently noticed that on VM Euronews doesnt have teletext but on Sky it does hmm.

boxey 06-12-2011 12:10

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I have Sky+. Up until last week I could switch on french subtitles on channel 799 (TV5) by pressing the little round "help" button at about 5 o clock on the round bit in the middle of the handset. I can see which programmes have subtitles (in french) by pressing "i" button at about 1 o clock when I am looking at present or future programmes. You will see something like W. or W,S. at the top of the info screen. "S" indicates that subtitles are available. Subtitles when available can be see "live" or in recordings.
Perfect for my needs but as I say it stopped working about a week ago. Googling to see if it is a TV5 problem or a Sky problem brought me to this page.

Marcel 07-12-2011 11:10

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I had given up on this problem but revisited it yesterday following the latest posting. However although the steps mentioned are available on Virgin V+ the subtitles do not appear as it seems this service is not supported by Virgin Media.
However if anyone can receive subtitles on Virgin I would be pleased to hear from them and would also be quite surprised.

boxey 08-12-2011 12:48

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Update after talking to Sky Technical assistance. Follow following procedure:-
[*]Sky+ button, [*]services button, [*]Options menu, [*]Sky+ setup, [*]Right arrow to "subtitles", [*]Down arrow to "Highlighted programmes", [*]Arrow to "subtitles", [*]Green button to save this setting.



TV Guide button, all program mes with subtitles broadcast (ie BBC) will be highlighted with blue text & WHITE background, Scroll to 799 (TV5). This is not highlighted, it has white text on BLUE background. Therefore subtitles not broadcast

Sky will write to TV5. I've also done so but no reply as yet.
Thanks

Marcel 12-12-2011 12:00

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I will be interested to see how you fare. It seems to me like you are now playing Pig in the Middle which I played in 2008 before I gave up the struggle to get a definitive answer from either TV5 or, in my case, Virgin.
Sky will know why subtitles are not broadcast without writing to Sky and TV5, if they reply this year will probably say it is some kind of issue with Sky

boxey 15-12-2011 02:32

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Good news Update.
The subtitles re-appeared at about 01.00 on thurs 15/12/20011 just as mysteriously as they disappeared about three weeks ago. Nothing to do with the various leads or settings I tried. Pity I'd already spent about 100 dollars subscribing to Yabla.com (Excellent short French videos with Fr/Eng Subtitles but their site is really ropey) ,Thanks for all your efforts to help.

spiderplant 15-12-2011 14:25

Re: Sub-titles for TV5 programmes
 
Thanks for the update boxey. I can see what they have fixed, and subtitles and teletext are now working on VM too.

Can you try again, Marcel? You'll need to have your TV connected to the V+ using SCART, then select teletext page 891 using your TV remote.

boxey 22-12-2011 13:43

Re: Sub-titles for TV5 programmes
 
TV5 have sent me the contact details for their representative in Britain. Anybody wanting them can PM me. I'll write to see if the mysterious disappearance of subtitles can be clarified. Also for fairness I must say that Yabla video retrieval speeds are now quite acceptable.


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