Chelsea Transfers Killing Football
 

I am not a Chelsea fan, but a mad football supporter, but l feel strongly that the mad and stupid prices they are paying for players in the transfer market, is absolutley outrageous, in todays Daily Mirror, Chelsea are preparing a transfer deal for a palyer called, KAKA, from AC Milan and the deal is 50 MILLION pounds, NO player is worth that amount of money, each year clubs put there prices up, and the cost of shirts, so in the end the fan, you and me, have to pay for that player, if you look at it, Chelsea must have players worth in the region of 400.million, and if they fielded all the players, they had you would have FOUR first teams, it is the same as other clubs and what they pay for players, l think the transfer market has gone totally mad, and it is done to the FA, to install, a capping on what clubs should pay for a player, before it goes totally bonkers.:)

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Don't buy the shirts - if enough people don't, the revenue model won't work.

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He'll probably get no games in at Chelsea, knowing what they're like for wasting money and then not using the players...

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Don't forget, the season is nearly at an end, l bet you any money, new clubs shirts will be out, costing about £40.00 each and entrance fee's will go up, and the season tickets will increase, and it will be the fan, who will be paying the price, l am not picking on Chelsea, but look at the wage, that John Terry is on a week, £100.000, it was said in the newspapers today, that Man Utd, are paying out £90. MILLION, to tie all the players to the club, football clubs, if they can afford this sort of money, then they should reduce the prices, for fans, who in the end pay the players wages. l am not having a dig at Chelsea, but when a player come's on the market, especially from abroad, the silly money comes in, how soon are we going to have a silly price of 100. MILLION or is that just a dream.

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What happened? Years ago players were bought for a few grand, now it's all in the millions...

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Sky Sports for one....

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I believe that many moons ago, players got a normal working salary.:erm: Can you imagine telling a premiership footballer that his starting salary is £21,450 a year!!!:D

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erm, Arthur - because they pay this silly money to players, the ticket and shirt prices go up - income (shirts, tickets, Sky money) has to be greater than expenditure (players and other salaries); basic economics.

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Premiership football players are worth what they are paid though, think how much money they bring to the club through their image, it's millions. Football clubs are making more and more money and it's not just through putting ticket prices up. It's not as if every single player is on 100k a week, it's only the very top players and ones who bring in the money for the club such as Terry, Ronaldo, Gerrard etc. Thats also the reason why players are worth so much, it's because of how much money they will bring to the club through their image and helping the team win competitions.

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The fact there is so much money in football is the problem, not the players share which they do deserve

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The top flight of English football is awash with money, and attracts the best players in the world. Three out of four Quarter Finalists in the CL are English. Why? The fans are willing to pay shedloads for shirts, tickets, but most importantly Sky. Also, the Premiership PLC has a nice little earner selling the rights overseas (it's probably the most watched non-domestic league).

Meanwhile, England fail to qualify for Euro 2008 because they play mediocre football. Something's gotta give. A colleague of mine recently went on a football trip. His 10 year old son's team played some Dutch teams. He couldn't believe what he saw: 10 year olds playing on flood lit pitches with proper club houses, changing rooms etc. His lad's team play in the local park. As he said: there's no way we could repay the compliment: 'we don't have the facilities'.

Food for thought, me thinks...

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The sooner football dies the better.

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I couldn't agree more. Gone are the days when most of the players actually went to the stadium on the same bus as the fans.

It's so ridiculous now, the money they get paid is wrong, totally wrong. It's not about football these days, it's all about money, power and greed! Thinking about it, it always has been.

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On the flipside, and assuming that there's no dodgy dealing going to to get him out of the tax he must hand over, he should be forking out £40 000 quid a week to Mr Taxman ;)

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Again, it's all down to Rupert Murdoch.

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Football players are mercenaries, it's been like that for moons now. Notably, it's been mainly Spain and Italy in recent years. And now it's England, prize money, and television rights play a large part, not forgetting merchandising. It's supply and demand, nothing more, nothing less. Football clubs are not stupid, they balance the books much more business like now. There's no way they would spend the sort of numbers they are, without seeing a decent return for their investments. Unfortunately, this means your average supporter, is fast becoming a thing of the past, and is much more corporate. Hence the reason I don't go anymore, I've been priced out. It's more of an elitist sport now, no wonder atmosphere's are suffering as a consequence. :erm:

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You know Bergkamps final contract at Arsenal was so complicated, due to the bonus structure, the tax man couldn't work it out :(

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What a great argument you made there :rolleyes:

Maybe it's because they would get mobbed by fans???

The money they get paid isn't wrong, as i pointed out before, it sounds to me that a lot of people are just jealous of football players and how much they earn...

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I understand that in this day and age they would get mobbed, but as for the amount of money they get paid being right, and people being jealous, that's not true, it's just pure greed.

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Hi Danielf, Your comment concerning going over the Holland, and the facilities that they have, has summed up the thread that l started, l am a referee and some of the grounds that l have been on, have been pathetic and poor, and yet these clubs pay a great deal of money to the local authorities, if the Premiership clubs can waste a great deal of money, then they can pass it onto the grass roots of football, where kids can learn the skills of football, and keep them off the streets, it is true that the greed of clubs, along with TV companies offering pots of money, l believe that Sky pay £70.000 per game, the good thing is that Setanta do cover lower league sides and sometimes there have been some brilliant games on Setanta, can you see Sky covering games from League Two or even Clubs from Rymans leagues, l doubt it,:)

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The amount of money in football is stupid, and while the players deserve to get most of the money that goes into it (since they are the ones doing the 'work') it is ridiculous how much they get. It's a massively overvalued skill but the market has decided that value and you can hardly blame the players for that.

Instead the over-the-top interest and importance people place in football is what is causing the inflated prices of tickets, shirts, and TV rights and ultimately the excessive wages paid to these players.

I wouldn't say people are jealous just miffed at why the ability to play football warrants such excessive pay. The thing that annoys me is the amount of footballing autobiographies there are. In all but a few cases I cannot see what a footballer has to say that is worth a book! To see autobiographies from the most interesting, intelligent and accomplished people society has to offer being outsold by Wayne Rooneys autobiography is almost as depressing as the fact that even his girlfriend has a book out now....:rolleyes:

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Dont people want to earn the most they can in whatever they do? So whats the problem with a footballer earning 120K, all of us would love earning so much in my opinion, and if I got it for kicking a ball and entertaining 60,000 people every week, then I for one would not be complaining.

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My point is it's the system at fault for allowing that much money to be in the game, not the players for taking it.

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I don't want to earn ridiculous amounts of money. Is that 120k a week? All of us? Speak for yourself. ;)

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All i'm going to say is can you or anyone else who has replied in this thread do the same job as the top premiership players like Ronaldo, Terry and Gerrard? I'm 100% sure the answer is no, they have a skill that is rare and in high demand so imo they deserve every penny they earn. People don't moan about those who work in banks and in the city that earn similar amounts to footballers, even though theres probably more skill to being a footballer than a boss of a big company.

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Yes, they do in fact moan about the money top bankers earn.

Also, I think you might find there is a bit more to running a company of thousands of people and multi-million pound turnover than there is to kicking a ball about a field. ;)

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Not even a fraction of the amount people do about footballers.

In your opinion, in my opinion not ;)

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Have you ever done it? If not, what do you base your opinion on? :D

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What the FA should do is limit the number of foriegn players in a match to 3 per team.

This would mean all those players would stand a beter change to play intop class teams, and may be we will win the World Cup again

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Have you ever been a Premiership footballer? If not what do you base your opinion on? ;) :D

I'm not saying that top bankers don't deserve the money they get or that it's easy, i'm just comparing the amount they earn, which is similar to top football players, but the fact it isn't scrutinised as much even though they are both highly skilled proffesions.

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I'm not making any arguments, that's just how I feel about football.

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Well Bankers are not idolized in the stupid fashion Footballers are.

Skill maybe, but Intelligence and importance less so. There are lots of skills people have that are rare, only football and a few other sports pay such a high premium when it's not an important skill in any sense of the word.

The amount of money footballers make is a fault of the system of football and not the players. They deserve the money they get since they are the ones earning it, but there should not be so much money to be made from commercialized football

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So are you suggesting that ony intelligent people should be allowed to earn high wages? Some would say entertainment is very important in life as well and football is one way of entertainment that a lot of people enjoy, so you could say it is just as important.

If people are willing to pay whats the problem? I'm happy paying the subscription for sky sports, as many others are. People aren't forced to buy merchandise or subscribe to sky or go to matches, they do it because they want to, and that is where the majority of money in football is from.

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No one is saying it should be banned, just that it's too big and it's importance has gotten way out of control. Footballers and their girlfriends with autobiographies. Footballers idolized to a stupid degree and so on.

It's just football in the end, and it's excessive obsession with fame and cash is part of the reason the game is actually suffering when you get to the local leagues. It's also become less of a competition and more about who can spend the most each season in order to win the cup.

Answer what I said, not what you would have liked me to say. Footballers deserve their money since they earn it and better they get it than the club/board. My point is the obsession with football and the cash wrapped up in the game is stupidly high, is ruining football, and is leading to footballers being idolized in a stupid fashion.

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I base my opinion on the fact that I have run large departments in multi-national companies, and my brother played professional football, and we have discussed and compared the differences and similiarities, and the values/benefits thereof.

I've answered your question - it would be nice / polite if you answered mine (since I asked first); what do you base your opinion on?;):D

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I look at it this way. A football career is a gamble. Think of the lad that goes into football rather than a regular job or higher education, gets to 30 and hasn't made it, retires from footy and now has to get a job! That is a nasty situation, not enough money to carry him through fifty years, no education and no experience and in your thirties, absolute nightmare. Most players (Sheringham aside) are done and dusted at 32 - 34 - you HAVE to have earned enough cash to let you live for 50 years, so I really don't begrudge them.

I mean how much did Jolie just get paid for pics of her kid?

Chelsea, hard one. On one hand Abramovich can spend his cash on whatever he wants, it is his club. BUT, Chelsea are living beyond their means, if he was to leave they can't support the squad on ticket sales and merchandise, they just aren't a Madrid/UTD/AC/Barca type of club, so in the long run a short term experiment could land them in a lot of trouble. Shevchenko was a HUGE mistake, should have left him where he was, Jose would still be there, and you just know Drogba will be following him to which ever team he goes to, and minus Drogba, Chelsea could struggle, Drogba is a talent.

And as far as Kaka goes, it's paper talk, don't believe anything that lot write. We (UTD) will be getting linked with half the players in Europe as soon as the Window opens, and none of them will arrive.

But, what Chelsea, more Abramovich, did was introduce a concept of instant success. You can no longer blood kids, you need finished articles otherwise they just roll you over. And that has basically destroyed the youth system of this country, and that is the worst thing about it all. UTD had a youth team that swept all aside and won everything for two seasons, and only Pique seems to have made a claim, the rest are either on loan, stuck in the reserves or sold. See Guiseppe Rossi.

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Thing is though I'd bet there a few people here with the ability to run such a company and quite a few more who are capable of learning the necessary skills to do so, what I wouldn't have thought is that anyone here has the ability to 'kick a ball about a field' with enough competence for it to be worth £100k per week to some one

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I was just going to add that players have only a short career as well and the money they make does have to do them for life

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Well considering that Sir Alan is going to give a 100k a year job to one of those numpties on the Apprentice (who are supposedly the cream of Entrepeneurs in the UK), I'd have to agree with your post.