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GeoffB 09-03-2008 11:16

BBC iPlayer
 
An article in today's Times says that allowing others to download from your connection via P2P will affect download limits. I'm thinking of iPlayer, which I use a lot. Surely, it's the other computer that's downloading from you, so it shouldn't count....or am I missing something? Anyway, it appears that many users are easily exceeding their limits by streaming or downloading long programmes. And yes, I have disabled P2P until the situation's a bit clearer.

Graham M 09-03-2008 11:19

Re: BBC iPlayer
 
No, IPlayer isn't P2P it's a server-based service provided by the beeb. If you are on VM Cable BB then you get a limit and then your speed gets cut for part of the day, it's not a solid cap.

dilli-theclaw 09-03-2008 11:24

Re: BBC iPlayer
 
Are you sure, I thought the downloadable stuff was p2p (as has been said you can disable that in the option) and the web wasn't p2p.

Graham M 09-03-2008 11:32

Re: BBC iPlayer
 
I can't find anything about that on the IPlayer site? :confused: - Unless, there's a different way of watching them than I have been?

dilli-theclaw 09-03-2008 11:34

Re: BBC iPlayer
 
well I guess it doesn't matter, either way you'd have to use the bandwidth which will count towards the STM.

edit - have a look at the wiki page for it

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BBC_iPlayer

Scroll down to the 'download service' section.

Dark Fiber 09-03-2008 11:44

Re: BBC iPlayer
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jefferson T (Post 34503235)
well I guess it doesn't matter, either way you'd have to use the bandwidth which will count towards the STM.

Isn't the OP, indirectly, worried about quickly hitting the _upload_ threshold as it is P2P?

dilli-theclaw 09-03-2008 11:48

Re: BBC iPlayer
 
The op is already doing the best thing to reduce this by turning off the p2p functionality in the download manager.

There's not much else can be done.

Graham M 09-03-2008 11:48

Re: BBC iPlayer
 
Yeah, Upload counts toward the STM as well (only separately)

ogganova 09-03-2008 13:27

Re: BBC iPlayer
 
If you stream from the bbc site, then that isn't p2p and is at lower quality. If you download from the Iplayer software, then you do share any material you've downloaded.

If you don't want to, then best to not runt he iplayer software except for when you want to download or watch.

TheNorm 09-03-2008 17:15

Re: BBC iPlayer
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ogganova (Post 34503328)
... If you download from the Iplayer software, then you do share any material you've downloaded....

Yes, but you can switch this function off quite easily.

Stuart 09-03-2008 17:30

Re: BBC iPlayer
 
The iPlayer download services uses a system called "Kontiki" (see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kontiki ) to manage the downloads. It's the same system as Sky's Anytime and Channel 4's 4od.

By default, the system does carry on sharing when you quit the client, although iplayer gives the option of not sharing. 4od does not, and, AFAIK, Sky anytime does not either.

The sharing is done by a Windows service called Kservice.exe, and this can be shut down through either computer management, or by opening a command window, and type "net stop kservice".

chickendippers 09-03-2008 17:36

Re: BBC iPlayer
 
Or you could just watch it on your TV under Catch Up TV On Demand and not worry at all ;)

VeNoM 10-03-2008 14:57

Re: BBC iPlayer
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by chickendippers (Post 34503458)
Or you could just watch it on your TV under Catch Up TV On Demand and not worry at all ;)

You dont get as many options on the on demand on virgin then the bbc iplayer

:cool:

moaningmags 10-03-2008 17:03

Re: BBC iPlayer
 
"By default, the system does carry on sharing when you quit the client, although iplayer gives the option of not sharing."

I'm seeing more and more customers get caught out by this.
They think they've closed it down but it's still sharing.

nffc 10-03-2008 18:58

Re: BBC iPlayer
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by moaningmags (Post 34504095)
"By default, the system does carry on sharing when you quit the client, although iplayer gives the option of not sharing."

I'm seeing more and more customers get caught out by this.
They think they've closed it down but it's still sharing.

It should be the other way round.

It does have to be emphasised, of course, that iPlayer/Anytime/4oD are legal P2P. Even stuff from Bittorrent (etc) can be legal (though lots of it is not).

Stuart 10-03-2008 19:39

Re: BBC iPlayer
 
I do think that all these clients should make it clear when you exit the program that the computer will carry on sending media to other users. Similar sort of thing to the "Windows Messenger is still running" message you get when you close the Windows Messenger window for the first time.


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