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Yet another bunch of *******
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Sorry to be blatent n blunt, but hired killers thats all they are. War is just a game, people need to read the art of war by Sun Tzu n stop kidding themselves its all manufactured, and soldiers are little more than puppets in there game, they risk there lives to be mind controlled to carry out tasks without asking questions and to kill many, ive seen unreal amounts of video's of UK and US soldiers killing innocent iraqi's, innocent kids, beating up kids. This is invasion and the iraqi's are fighting imperialism like anyone would do if hell was brought to the streets of your town beyond your control and then was controlling them blowing them up, killing your families members. Lets get real now n stop acting like there the heroes. its divide n conquer, conquer and conquest. |
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Seriously mate what planet do you live on and what are you smoking? Having read a number of your posts I worry about your mental health.
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I doubt this is the case. Maybe you should have some respect! These people are giving their lives, for us! Personally I wouldn't bother with comments like yours! It doesn't matter what the reason is, the family's of these people are loosing loved ones. I for one, think this country needs to wind its neck in and pay some respect. There may be many reasons for this war and it's aparant, the *primary* reason isn't to clear this world of evil and hate - the reason for the war is oil, thats obvious but still soliders, men & women are dying for us. So I believe its the given right to wear their uniform off base.. just like coppers, paramedics, even people that work at Tesco have the right to do so, so why shouldn't they! |
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Every post you have made has been to wind up the users of this forum. I cannot understand how you are still here. You can bet i will get a infraction for calling you a troll why you get away with that complete and utter crap you just posted scot free. |
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Ive seen unreal videos of US and UK troops that have been ambushed by iraqi fighters, while protecting innocent iraqi's. Some of those troops died in the incident. I think a lot of people agree with you that they shouldnt have been sent there in the first place. But they have, now its not their fault they are there. They are following orders and deserve some respect for offering their life for their country. |
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Of course another possibility is that he's really BBKing's alter ego :D |
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It must be because your head is so far up your fundament.........:monkey: (imho) |
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And for your information - noone gets away with anything scot free. I am getting sick and tired of members saying things like this - You have been told time and time again that if a member is annoying you, report them and or you use your ignore feature, members do not engage in petty insults and arguments because they have a problem with a certain member. I also repeatedly stated over and over again about people swearing or starring out swear words - It will not be tolerated on this board. Quote:
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A bit like a few years ago down South when "The Big House" burned down killing the Lord of the Manor and his wife, the media was interviewing one of the villagers who was very sad, "his Lordship was a wonderful man, he used to let my husband go up to the house to feed the dogs", shows just how pathetic the British can be. |
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have guaranteed that today we are not living under the slavery of the nazis or the slavery of the former USSR or other totalitarian ystem |
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Our service men do deserve respect they are being forced to fight in 2 pointless wars and dying for the privilege however it may not be as clear cut as put across as in my town often squaddies from Bramcote Barrocks come into town at weekends and cause trouble fighting and the like |
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I feel sad that people who risk their lives for their country take so much abuse.
Certainly, when unhappy with the war that is ensuing, you take your views to someone higher, not the men and women in uniform - heroes with such courage it beats most of us. |
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I have to say though how are they risking their lives for their country in a godforsaken place like Iraq? they are risking their lives for oil and politics simple as if it was for human rights the Robert Mugabe would have had his ass kicked and be left hanging from a gibbet by now. Afganistan is a war that we can not win the Russians failed and there hands were not tied by left wing ideals. Its about time the Yanks learnt a hard lesson from their failures (ie Vietnam Korea) and stop throwing innocent lives at it |
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The armed services uniform is a uniform just like any other "works" uniform. There is logic and reason to wearing it when travelling to and from work and whilst at work. There is no logic or reason to wear it at any other time.
The only other time it might be worn would be at ceremonial occasions, i.e forces wedding,funeral etc. What would be the reason for wearing a forces uniform for example during normal social occasions or day to day activities outside "work" time? |
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All though the example Im about to use is far worse, it equates to the same thing. My mate who is in the Army and who was in Nothern Ireland about a year ago was also told not to wear his uniform when leaving them camp, due to the fact of safety reasons. Its just another none story to me. |
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To be honest, this just seems to be another thing our country can't pride itself over, its not enough that soon ENGLAND will not be England - it will be engpolish/muslim/turkish/indian/+ every other religion thats having a little bitof trouble
I believe our armed forces should wear their uniform with pride, it's part of our patrioism. Which is just what our country needs.. I for on |
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Its done for the safety of the people supposed to be wearing the uniform, plain and simple, there is nothing more to it. |
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I've seen it and had a go at those giving the abuse, and met a torrent of "They should have refused to go" and "It's illegal, they should be done for war crimes" etc. Thankfully most people (outside government anyway) do appreciate members of the armed forces, whether they agree with the war or not. |
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The are told they cannot wear their uniform outside of the base or whatever it was, it is done for their own safety. What has what they are allowed to wear or not got anything to do with needing help from them? |
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Incorrect - you will find a high number of so called "british muslims" in the army and working for the government - I should I know I do work for HOIT (Home Office IT) My point was, we should allow our armed forces to wear their unfiform with pride and that the british public are generally thick as muck anywho! Its just like shouting at the person on the phone or at the desk, it's not their fault the company messed something up is but yet we take it out on them, the same goes for the RAF & others. It's not the peoples fault, yet our government - the fact is, they are there, where ever there maybe, so we as a nation should stand by them. |
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My point being, if the "british" public being as ignorant and as rude as they are would show a little respect - then we wouldn't have any issues.. Anywho - I would expect the people to do the spitting is the indians / polish etc. |
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You and I, and thankfully most people, understand that members of the armed forces are doing a job, they aren't responsible for the decision to go to war, and therefore if we have a disagreement with the war, the last people we'd have a go at would be those serving in the armed forces. Unfortunately, there are a few people who can't work that one out, and are willing to not only spout verbal abuse at servicemen, but also physical abuse. Consiquenty, it is prudent of their commanding officer to protect them from such abuse, wouldn't you agree? |
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[quote]Sorry, I can't see how that relates to my post
It's late, help me out here [quote] My point was, working for HOIT & support some of the armed forces, we see alot of muslims / singh / mohammed in the company. I think that was my point :) :) It's late so bear with me! |
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Actually the abuse probably has nothing to do with Iraq and everything to do with local lads who aren't earning as much as the servicemen and women and being jealous.It's been a regular feature down here on the South Coast for years.In fact most Naval personnel have regularly been wearing civvies off duty for that reason.
Though of course during the 'troubles' service personnel were encouraged to be out of uniform off duty for security reasons.. |
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My reference to the government was a subtle (probably too subtle given the time of night!) dig at the government's poor treatment of armed service personel, suggesting that they don't appreciate them, after all, if you appreciate someone and are in the position to demonstrate that, you'd do whatever you could, such as giving them the right type of ammo, enough armoured vehicles and air support, body armour and NVGs etc. |
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[quote=webcrawler2050;34502667][quote]Sorry, I can't see how that relates to my post
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I don't understand how it relates to the poor treatment or the lack of respect the army gets....? |
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