The Real Reason Behind Why Hemp + Weed is illegal
 

heres a site to view regarding the subject if your open minded you'll see the truth. There was a program on the history channel recently called the history of marijuana there was leading cultivators on there saying its the greatest plant in the world and the whole program glorified the plants uses and basically was asking "why is this plant illegal?"

i ask the same questions and i understand exactly why nowadays with the propaganda ontop and the promotion of binge drinking alcohol i can see there clearly trying to turn the younger generations into nut case larger louts and yes its the drinkers who cause the most problems.

I know many people who smoke from all walks of life guys who work every day n have a family and none of them act that way they keep a level head because they smoke and its a 5 sense enhancer hence it heightens your various senses and many things you do under the influence will be enhanced and you will carry them out more efficiently(yes we live in a 5 sense reality science and psycology prooven for you mainstreamers).

It is only Addictions formed mentallly (which are your own fault and can be formed with absulotely anything) they are the real problem here. That is what can cause what people like to call Skitzophrenia but that is not the drug that is your mind state the way your thinking just for the addiction. That is easy to break and its been prooven weed is not physically addictive. As for why it should be legal heres why....

http://www.illuminati-news.com/marijuana-conspiracy.htm

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Why more conspiracies?

Just... why...

I've been with many people on weed, and out of them, most of them turned into nuts while they were high, and the others (bar one) eventually developed mental problems. Now, i'm not going to go into details, but none of my other friends or people i used to/still hang around with have a mental problem/illness.

So for me, this post is ripe for the rubbishing.

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why dont you read it then judge? otherwise ive nothing to say to you.

I know thousands of people who have smoked there whole life n there completely fine some of them very sucessful in there achievements in life, so that blows your small minimized generalisations out the window.

i see this on the news every other day lots of propaganda permanately so its certainly a current affair.

heres the side you dont get told.

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After a quick skim read of the first half of it, i honestly can say that upto this point it really is just going on about how people used to use it for this and that, and so far noone really smoked it...

Then, it says in the past it was illegal not to grow the stuff. Someone thought it was a threat and tried banning it etc...

Just think, opium was once prescribed. Is that good for you too?

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Ancient China and india smoked it for years, Watch the history channels History of marijuana on google videos if you dont believe me. Its been smoked way before alcohol was drunk.

and no opium was Prescribed because pharmaceutracals are loose coorporations same way coca cola had cocaine in it.

The reason its speaking about why people used it is because upto recently it was used for the widest resource for everything,

and it would set third world countries free, and would cure the starvation, lack of clothing, textiles to build accomadation yet it isnt used.

Can you not put two n two together?

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Hemp? Yes it could - but the UK can't decide what to do about casual users yet...

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This is how much the government cares for us Ive been smoking a while now and i know alot of guys in the area who sell it n i know the underground scene in my area well as ive grown up around it now im older im not involved in any of it, but i do still smoke. The fact is They would rather we smoke weed which has been blasted with the likes of sand, than control the quality control, they know people are going to smoke it and no not everyone who smokes it is a low life thats a gross misinterpritation and stereotype.

Amsterdam has prooven it doesnt do any damage dam is a much friendlier place than where im from, where alcohol controls the age ranges from 13-35 +. Its terrible.

in a world where alcohol is legal when it kills more than crack, coke and heroin combined....yet weeds made illegal n they'd rather we smoked crap i cant even take there laws seriously i just know there taking the ****.

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Switzerland tried to follow their 'example' a while back - and with prostitution too. It failed.

Move to Amsterdam?

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The new world order effects the UN, moving no where will be worth it.

2012 brings mass events anyway, and no im not a conspiracy nut who just believes what i read. but really, it doesnt matter where i move currently.

Reality is reality though weed used in the right manners like all drugs aswell as education on them is whats needed that way u get rid of the addictions. I understand why younger people use them as im younger myself n i know the reasons people do things are normally much different to mine.

at school i never got told anything on drugs other than dont touch them....what kinda bullshits that your just gonna touch them simply because they've told you not to. Its just logic, curiosity killed the cat.

See i cant take this hypocrasy on weed when i see alcohol adverts everyday n the murderation of people on this planet it has caused plus the ridiculous amount of problems its caused in general society.

most these people who that guy was talking about on the other thread who bashed off his wing mirrors i bet a 50 note on the fact there drunk.

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[quote=THESHAOLIN1;34501990]This is how much the government cares for us Ive been smoking a while now and i know alot of guys in the area who sell it n i know the underground scene in my area well as ive grown up around it now im older im not involved in any of it, but i do still smoke. The fact is They would rather we smoke weed which has been blasted with the likes of sand, than control the quality control, they know people are going to smoke it and no not everyone who smokes it is a low life thats a gross misinterpritation and stereotype.

???

2012 - the Olympics???

Hm - I'd better go to bed. :D

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talking of prostitution in amsterdam i believe thats getting made illegal soon aswell.

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[QUOTE=scuzz;34501996]and? i make music it goes together like bread n butter as im sure many would agree if they knew anything about music production.

As for 2012....

the olympics is one thing happening, but that wasnt what was predicted, and im not talking bible prophecies here. Im talking the most ancient races on this planet recorded all stating the world would change on the year 2012, based on the weather, the astrological proof of Planet x (nibiru) and evidence supporting it being what the actual "big bang" was, is unreal. As for whats destined. Lets just to be gentle years of unreal weather and far worse.

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Just one question, totally off topic and Im sorry to everyone, but who do you think was responsible for 9/11?

Forget that, Ive been reading another thread of yours, so dont answer it, and I now know that what you say will just go straight over my head.

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:rofl:
Doug Yurchey doesn't even know much about marijuana and hemp, let alone the differences.

Marijuana contains enough tetrahydrocannabinol to give people a high, hemp on the other hand has been cultivated for it's industrial properties, and therefore minute tetrahydrocannabinol levels.
Hemp is the industrially useful member of the family, not marijuana.
The US Hemp Industries Association successfully appealed against the DEA to allow hemp food products to be sold in the US. So much for it being banned.
Industrial cultivation of hemp is going strong in Europe and Canada, again, so much for hemp being banned.

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tetrahydrocannabinol has been prooven to do plenty more good than bad.

More pro's than con's? thats one of the best drugs in the world is it not?

if somethings got many more pro's than cons (infact so few con's that have ever been prooven) then its definatly worth being legal.

ona real it should be a personal choice, it should be legalised for humanitarian reasons alone. and no hemp is banned there was a shop near me closed down recently for industrialising hemp n processing it to make clothing.

I assure you its a prooven fact in the law its banned.

so therefore why is it banned? theres no good reason other than the ones explained on that site which are totally true as corporations act in this manner on a regular basis as you would if you had billions to protect n control to keep.

Weed also makes you research more into the world, i know so many people who have a greater interest in the nature of reality after blazing for a little bit and end up learning loads about the world, most definatly one of the reasons they use scare tactics to stop the majority using it.

We all know anythings bad for you as an addiction, weed for you in moderation is absulotely no danger upon your health and the only people who say otherwise are government funded scientists this is prooven just look into it, the people who speak highly of weed and theres a ridiculous amount are near always independant scientists. These guys carry certificates just like the government funded scientists so people cant use the old PHD **** against them....

have you elders not heard of bill hicks?

he laid down the truth about weed very well in your era.

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Thalidomide, relieves suffering in people with leprosy, is an anti-inflamatory, releaves morning sickness, is effective in treating myeloma, and Crohn's disease.
Plenty of pros there right? Must be a wonder drug! Oh wow. Now, what cons are there? Yes, that's right, deformed babies. Not so wonderful is it?

Can you please try to understand, marijuana is not the same as hemp?
The Body Shop sell hemp products for goodness sake!

As for Bill Hicks, don't you realise he was an elder too?
We were into Hicks while you were still learning literacy skills.
Oh wait...

Miss Deuteronomy, oh how I laughed.

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hemp and marijuana are from the same seed you fool, i know cultivation better than anyone on this site, 3 of my friends are into cultivation 2 with degrees in it, i will tell you now deformed babies whats that got to do with an individual who smokes it?

Should anyone be taking any drugs when pregnant?

Theres thousands of pro's for weed i saw a program on TV where they were using it as an alternative for lukemia (ignore spelling) and it was working fantastic on people.

and it is a wonder drug how ever much you've been drawn into the propaganda the news fills your head with day in day out,

weed and hemp which are derived from the same seed is the best plant on this planet, and any real cultivatist who knows about real cultivation will tell you the same thing.

You can speak down to me all you like pal, but it doesnt work mate, in real life you would never patronise me i'd be looking down on you.

i can assure you what you think is the truth, is just the opinion of a dumb mass amount of people, follow the leader - follow the sheep - follow the fool.

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ahhhhh now i get where all these conspiracy theories have come from.....

Someone been on the wackey backey again?:erm:

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Just what I was thinking, it's known to cause Paranoia of course :)

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Excuse me, my little hat-wearing friendly OP, may I refer you to the Wiki article, especially the first line Link
"This article is about the cultivation and uses of industrial hemp, not its psychoactive cousin Cannabis (drug)".

It would appear you are equating two different strains of plants to be the same thing, which is much like saying because you share 95% of your DNA with an anthropoid, you're a chimp..........

To further counter some of your more "imaginative" statements, may I suggest your read the rest of the Wiki, which states, amongst other points -
"Hemp (from Old English hænep, see cannabis (etymology)) is the common name for plants of the entire family of Cannabis, although the term is often used to refer only to Cannabis strains cultivated for industrial (non-drug) use. Hemp is cultivated virtually everywhere in the world except for the United States, and its cultivation in western countries is growing steadily. For example, Canadian Hempseed exports surged 300% last year, according to VoteHemp. China, and other eastern countries, never prohibited its cultivation and use it extensively.
Industrial hemp has thousands of potential uses, from paper to textiles to biodegradable plastics to health food to fuel but it has not been the great commercial success that the enthusiast hoped for in countries where it is legal to harvest."

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Nah. I prefer to follow the evidence - scientific and personal. You seem very keen on advocating the possible benefits, but not so the drawbacks. You aren't by any chance a Scientologist too, are you? ;)

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Nibiru?

I'm afraid you obviously haven't done your research - Nibiru (as a name) is just part of Sumerian astrology. The Babylonians believed that it was the celestial body of the god Marduk, which was equated to Zeus in Greek, and has pretty much been attributed to Jupiter.

Now, I could be wrong, but I think astrological proof of Jupiter was ascertained quite a while ago - Galileo discovered some its moons in 1610, so I'm fairly sure that proof has been accepted, what with the various probe missions that have been sent there :shrug:

I think you may be interested in Jupiter for two reasons - firstly, it's a gas giant, and secondly, it's hot. Load of hot gas anyone?

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You probably wouldn't be - Xaccers is quite tall :)

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I forget, What is the illuminati? I didn't read about it in mainstream monthly.

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Also, Can I ask how you separate support for drugs from the level of social deprevation caused by the drugs trade. Admittedly weeds is not exactly a major force in it but none the less

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I don't think anyone is trying to argue that cannabis (itself) is either addictive, or, indeed dangerous. I personally don't think it's addictive, although I have to admit, out of everyone I know who has smoked it, only one person stopped after smoking one joint. Pure cannabis is also not dangerous. The resin that a lot of people smoke, however, is a *lot* stronger, and has been linked with various mental disorders.

Before you say that's just me believing mainstream hype, it isn't. I have at least one friend who has fairly severe mental problems (he stays on his meds, he's OK, if he doesn't he tends to do things "because the voices tell him to"), and a few others who have been smoking for years, and are starting to show extreme paranoia.

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Shaolin, have you been on Durban Poison again?

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Can we have some primary sources to back this up - preferably papers/journals that have the correct number of capital letters and full stops?

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Cambridge, Oxford, Leicester poly?

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Friends of mine have to go for counselling and anger management due to the intake of cannabis. In fact, one of my friends tell me often that it is addictive, no matter what anyone says - he is struggling so badly to keep off it at the moment, but he's had serious problems with fits of rage due to this drug he cannot touch it without losing it.

The beginning of this thread is nonsense.

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De Montfort University, dont'cha know..... ;)

Didn't know you could get a Bachelor's in cultivating 'erb - and they say that Universities today don't teach anything of value. :D

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The beginning is nonsense???!!! You obviously haven't read the rest of it yet ;)

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Thingsggggggggggggs can only get better,
can only get better,
now we've found THESHAOLIN1 (and you and you and you and you)

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Careful - Freddy Krueger came in D:reams. Who knows what mystical powers the 'erb has bestowed on our monk-like friend...

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Oh yippee. Another internet tough guy. :rolleyes:

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not at all im very reasonable and level headed patronise me or threaten my freedom n ill put your lights out though.

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not at all im very reasonable and level headed patronise me or threaten my freedom or my family n ill put your lights out though.

+ this is the internet i take people about as serious as nothing on here, most the guys on here wouldnt even open there lips to me in real life to nervous to have there fake **** media opinion.

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Easy to say that over the anonymity of t'internet. Tell you what - if you can provide cast iron evidence supporting your claims, I'll pop round and fix your lights later :)

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OMG - that is the funniest statement I have read in a long time; it really defines oxymoronic.

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Dunno what's scarier - the unintentional irony, or the fact that he could be infecting the gene pool ;)

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to the people chatting media propaganda i ask you to get your own opinion or leave the news headlines to brainwash others.

and the dumb stereotyping like all your names are jeremy kyle "oh he smokes weed and talks about conspiracies",

no no no. i talk about the nature of reality and REAL life. Thats why i roll with real dudes who know whats going on in the world. Just because im not a middle class person leading the same bent life as most of you being told how to live my life, that makes me no difference.

ive read and ive educated myself, and yes knowledge is power, and yes understanding is power how ever much you wish to downplay younger people because you spent most your life on the governments route that ended up getting you pretty much nothing thats why your on this forum.

My ex sifu use to blaze anyway when i did kung fu why? because it would make him physically feel healthier when performing different techniques and training excercises it also relaxes the muscles and makes them supple.

Weed brings so much great to the world, and the only people who have something against it are in this list....

1. Media whores.

2. people who have no experience with it n just use others opinions on the subject.

3. Alcohol users who are complete n utter hypocrits n havnt even looked at the fluid there drinking to even have a say in the matter.

As for its benefits that site explains solely alone why it should be legal, and nothing any guy on here whose just making jokes n walks around with a clown mask on, can say any different.

Jeezus, get your own opinions like n stop jumping on the bandwagon sucking breast.

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Sorry - did you just use the word 'dude'?

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So, you want us to get our own opinions (as long as they agree with yours).

Oooooookaaaaay, then.

We are all individuals (as long as we are like you)

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Sweet.

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its called being real and not a pussy mate.

not letting someone walk all over you.

im sure you know what thats like.

and dont say **** to me cause in real life you'd be quivering you old fart.

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Unfortunatly for me my son (who doesnt live with me BTW) has a tendency to smoke a bit of pot\skunk\weed\ganga\resin\'erb\marijuana or whatever else you want to call it and has turned from a nice young man with manners and respect into a mouthy, obnoxious, violent, extremely volotile 18yr old. Why, because of what he uses.
I know for a fact he doesnt touch any class "A" he even admonishes those that do.
But he likes his weed, wakes up in the morning and he needs a joint, one after breakfast, one on the way to his mates and christ knows how many during the day. He fights and arugues with his elder sister, hits her and his mum, has an attitude a mile wide, refuses to talk to me on the phone. This stuff has recked what chance he had of living a normal (or as close to one) teenage life.
He wont come and live with me because he knows I wont allow it in or near my house and he wont know where to get any from up here.
So before you start extoling the virtues of smoking a bit of weed, have like me, some first hand experience of a son going off the rails because of this stuff and then maybe you'll look upon it differently (or then again by reading some of your previous post not)

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If the next post contains the words 'car', 'where's' and 'my', I'm off :D

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I wouldn't be quivering (mind you, foreverwar's older than me ;) ).

I don't know if it's the 'erb talking, but you're really offensive when you get up first thing in the afternoon...

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Eeek.

Mummy, the nasty man is being horrid to me - I'm frightened.:(


Excuse, I have to leave the forum for a few minutes to change my undergarments - I have just wet myself laughing..........


Trying to get this thread back on topic, I think that THESHAOLIN1 is a perfect example of why weed is illegal.
a) Incoherent
b) Puts forward badly thought out propositions and refuses to back them up with evidence
c) Gets extremely aggressive and rude when disagreed with

I could go on..... (and I do sometimes ;) )

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my cast evidence is try me b, n see where u end up on the streets of east london.

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Well, if I was on the streets of East London, I'd probably have worse things to worry about than some spotty little oik with a superiority complex :shrug:

Oh, and my name doesn't start with 'b'...

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jump on the bandwagon begging like your names oliver twist, u get shown no respect mate.

ive got thousands of pals who are real can discuss this information with me, from all age ranges.

You think your something special because you got some forum pals.

please....lol, im just putting out information i know is true. Look into it or get out my topics n live in your haze bubble.

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lol you really have no idea about reality, i could get a 15 year old to shoot or shank u up for 20 quid.

thats how real it is out here.

But obviously im past the days of patheticness guys like yourself i would rather just drive upto in my TT n laugh at your ignorance n drive off.

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Excellent - a cockney kungfu 'erb-head; he can kill a man, but he can't be bothered most of the time.

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im not in the slightest bit demotivated, what businesses do you own at 51?

or is this forum your life....

love how this guys judging my life, 51 and on a forum

loooooool

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Right I'm closing this thread 'till I decide what to do with it.

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No no, I don't think I'm special because I've got some forum pals - I think I'm special cos my mum said so.

Frankly, I'm trying to decide what bandwagon you think I'm on - the information that you're 'putting out' is what you believe to be true. Dunno why you're getting upset when it's so patently untrue that nobody is agreeing with you :shrug:

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Well guess what - I am not having anyone walking in and over our rules - You have crossed the line more than once and I am sick of seeing your name crop up when a reported post comes in or you make a stupid post.

Bottom line is - I do not want someone with your attitude on this board, you are now banned from this website.

Thank you and Goodnight.

Edit: P.S On Checking to see whose thread this was - I think it is best it remains permanently closed.