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THESHAOLIN1 06-03-2008 03:41

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This is not a new video but alot of people havnt seen it so thought i'd post it to see your opinions on it. Admitting on a live media show membership to skull and bones secret society and avoiding the further questions and changing the subject. This is on CBS.

May i add is it merely suspicious they are both Cousins? out of the millions of americans that apparently "could" of been president.....

oh and this is relevant....dont think the UK its any different, many different puppets same hand controlling the strings.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z1U-9tO9V4o

BBKing 06-03-2008 09:30

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May i add is it merely suspicious they are both Cousins? out of the millions of americans that apparently "could" of been president.....
Dick Cheney and Barack Obama share DNA. That's not suspicious. It would be suspicious if no two politicians ever shared DNA, in fact, since it wouldn't be normal.

Anyway, John Kerry is, like, soooo 2004, man.

Before I watch the video, is it a waste-of-my-time conspiracy theory?

lostandconfused 06-03-2008 10:47

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If its a secret society, its not a very good one, if a lot of people know about it and two high profile members admit it on national TV really.

mrobto2000 06-03-2008 11:15

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People who believe these things,suffer from some sort of mental delusion,going
against logic and common sense,if that was true,they would never admitt it and much less to the media

Hugh 06-03-2008 14:33

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Is this the secret society that Hollywood made a film about?

BBKing 06-03-2008 15:55

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The other point is that after seven years I'm not suspicious of the way George Bush is acting, it's gone beyond suspicion to positive proof that he's a highly dangerous lunatic.

THESHAOLIN1 06-03-2008 16:55

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Originally Posted by BBKing (Post 34501166)
Dick Cheney and Barack Obama share DNA. That's not suspicious. It would be suspicious if no two politicians ever shared DNA, in fact, since it wouldn't be normal.

Anyway, John Kerry is, like, soooo 2004, man.

Before I watch the video, is it a waste-of-my-time conspiracy theory?

if you dont believe conspiracy theories exist i suggest you switch on your tv n fall back to sleep, In a world run by money conspiracies are just pure fact.

As for theres nothing wrong with people in positions of power sharing the same DNA. Use your logic for a second, if all the people in power are related which currently bush is related to our queen elizabeth for instance. Just shows you how your not selecting presidents by choice they are just being selected for you, via bloodline....why? you may ask and the simple answer is because kings and queens throughout life have believed they've had the divine right to rule, now they just make people Believe there free by labelling the society a democracy with governments who are "there for the people"....reality is that isnt the case. As history, and present life prooves for me perfectly. Should you not let authority tell you the truth and self educate yourself.

Xaccers 06-03-2008 16:58

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You do know you share DNA with George Bush right don't you Shaolin?

THESHAOLIN1 06-03-2008 17:01

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Originally Posted by lostandconfused (Post 34501214)
If its a secret society, its not a very good one, if a lot of people know about it and two high profile members admit it on national TV really.

it is a secret society, its yale universities secret society.

Theres thousands everywhere i know people in the UK who are freemasons. These secret societies are everywhere.....and it was reasonably secret until they got asked those questions.

Which most the time dont get any light of day on national tv.

Most americans already know 9/11 was an inside job because the facts are undeniable and the rejection of answering simple questions by those in control are just to clear that there trying to avoid.

You would be surprised who is drawn into this secret society web.

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Originally Posted by Xaccers (Post 34501489)
You do know you share DNA with George Bush right don't you Shaolin?

im italian i share about as much DNA with bush as you do with gandolf the grey.

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Originally Posted by BBKing (Post 34501440)
The other point is that after seven years I'm not suspicious of the way George Bush is acting, it's gone beyond suspicion to positive proof that he's a highly dangerous lunatic.

This is true. But little more than a puppet.

Guys like that have no control over there actions.

On the strings being told what to do n say next.

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Originally Posted by foreverwar (Post 34501379)
Is this the secret society that Hollywood made a film about?

yeah there was a film made about this, i forget what it was called. Probably made it to make people believe it didnt exist, Like they do thousands of valid true subjects.

Xaccers 06-03-2008 17:11

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Originally Posted by THESHAOLIN1 (Post 34501490)
im italian i share about as much DNA with bush as you do with gandolf the grey.

Well, Gandalf not being human (or real for that matter, you do know he's not real don't you?) I couldn't say how much of my DNA was shared with his (if he was real, which he isn't, ok? I know you probably read about him in a non-mainstream book, but that doesn't mean he's real).

Stuart 06-03-2008 17:28

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Originally Posted by THESHAOLIN1 (Post 34501490)
it is a secret society, its yale universities secret society.

Theres thousands everywhere i know people in the UK who are freemasons. These secret societies are everywhere.....and it was reasonably secret until they got asked those questions.

Which most the time dont get any light of day on national tv.

Most americans already know 9/11 was an inside job because the facts are undeniable and the rejection of answering simple questions by those in control are just to clear that there trying to avoid.

You would be surprised who is drawn into this secret society web.

Secret society? Both the freemasons and the Skull and Bones society have been extensively documented. Indeed, the Masons has thousands of members. Hardly secret..

BTW, having talked to people who have seen the evidence (not just the crap put out by the media) behind 9/11, I believe it actually happened as described.
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im italian i share about as much DNA with bush as you do with gandolf the grey.
Seeing as humans share about 95% of their DNA with Chimps, and both you and GWB are human (I assume), then you actually share more than 95% of your DNA. Probably almost 100%.

Nugget 06-03-2008 17:41

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Originally Posted by THESHAOLIN1 (Post 34501486)
if you dont believe conspiracy theories exist i suggest you switch on your tv n fall back to sleep, In a world run by money conspiracies are just pure fact.

Pure fact?

*ahem*

conspiracy theory
n. A theory seeking to explain a disputed case or matter as a plot by a secret group or alliance rather than an individual or isolated act.

It's defined as a theory so, by definition, it's not fact :shrug:

Hugh 06-03-2008 18:16

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Damien 06-03-2008 18:27

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Most americans already know 9/11 was an inside job because the facts are undeniable and the rejection of answering simple questions by those in control are just to clear that there trying to avoid.
No, Only the dumb ones do.

THESHAOLIN1 06-03-2008 18:33

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Originally Posted by Nugget (Post 34501539)
Pure fact?

*ahem*

conspiracy theory
n. A theory seeking to explain a disputed case or matter as a plot by a secret group or alliance rather than an individual or isolated act.

It's defined as a theory so, by definition, it's not fact :shrug:

its fact, Secondly there nothing to do with conspiracy theory about a secret society unless they peform illegeal acts like a kabal if you want proof go there n see for yourself if you live in that much of an isolated reality or do some research for once in your life n you'll know the truth thats if u even know how to seperate truth from fiction?

Ive done my research. opinion and the word Conspiracy theory are words so stuck up middle class people can try and downplay all truths. Them people are just fools n beg authority like oliver twist.

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Originally Posted by Damien (Post 34501573)
No, Only the dumb ones do.


how amusing. The ones who opened a book rather than accepting there governments word for it?

i could proove you wrong instantly if you werent so narrow minded that i cant even be bothered with your lost soul.

Stuart 06-03-2008 18:35

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TBH, Nugget is right.. A Conspiracy theory is just that: a theory. When/If it is proved, it ceases being theoretical and becomes fact.

THESHAOLIN1 06-03-2008 18:36

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Originally Posted by Xaccers (Post 34501502)
Well, Gandalf not being human (or real for that matter, you do know he's not real don't you?) I couldn't say how much of my DNA was shared with his (if he was real, which he isn't, ok? I know you probably read about him in a non-mainstream book, but that doesn't mean he's real).

lol @ you taking my sarcasm seriously n going into a paragraph about it. Get over yourself.

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Originally Posted by Stuart C (Post 34501584)
TBH, Nugget is right.. A Conspiracy theory is just that: a theory. When/If it is proved, it ceases being theoretical and becomes fact.

the problem is when people dont want to listen ignorance makes it a theory.

Like i said i can proove everything i say. If you guys were actually adult enough you would look into my claims.

But then that would take an open mind wouldnt it?

Stuart 06-03-2008 18:37

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Originally Posted by THESHAOLIN1 (Post 34501578)
how amusing. The ones who opened a book rather than accepting there governments word for it?

i could proove you wrong instantly if you werent so narrow minded that i cant even be bothered with your lost soul.

OK, prove it to me.. I am open minded. Of course, if you can't ...

Xaccers 06-03-2008 18:37

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Originally Posted by THESHAOLIN1 (Post 34501578)
how amusing. The ones who opened a book

Yes, books on architecture, demolitions, aircraft statistics, physics, tensile strength, etc.
It might be an idea for you to open some of those books too, you might actually learn something.

THESHAOLIN1 06-03-2008 18:45

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Originally Posted by Stuart C (Post 34501526)
Secret society? Both the freemasons and the Skull and Bones society have been extensively documented. Indeed, the Masons has thousands of members. Hardly secret..

BTW, having talked to people who have seen the evidence (not just the crap put out by the media) behind 9/11, I believe it actually happened as described.

Seeing as humans share about 95% of their DNA with Chimps, and both you and GWB are human (I assume), then you actually share more than 95% of your DNA. Probably almost 100%.

Its still a secret society just because its KNOWN does not stop it from being secret, the majority of mass public do not know about it, and its where abouts and what happens there is left in secret....So therefore like all freemasonic lodges and the fact its tied up in a web with thousands of other secret societies, Makes it a secret soceity. Simple.

anyone who thinks 9/11 and 7/7 bombings was not a conspiracy SIMPLY has only looked into one side, im open minded and before i even looked into them i done lots of research from both angles.


www.wearechange.org. Here it from the **** bags themselves when they get caught out on questions...

ive read about 4 books on 9/11 tearing the whole story apart, Anyone who can accept that is truth has honestly lost there logic n ability to seperate truth from fiction.

The whole media story was a complete n utter lie. Then when you add up the Motives and whats happened after these events it begins to make sense, More research makes you understand the world u live in and how guys like george orwell being politically involved were merely speaking about what was going to happen rather than what could of happened.

and no if george bush is human im a plaedician. Because that guy has as much soul n spirit and compassion in him as a rock.

dont even get me started with human DNA n how the majority of humans have just absorbed science as fact without even realising science n religion branches from the same tree, n answers only primitive answers in life.

Our DNA has been mass manipulated anyhow hence were nothing like the former primeapes we've descended from and posess a reptilian Brain named the R complex in the centre of our minds which is responsible for every negative trait in a human you can imagine.

Graham M 06-03-2008 18:46

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lol this stuff cracks me up. Tin hats please?

THESHAOLIN1 06-03-2008 18:50

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Originally Posted by Xaccers (Post 34501588)
Yes, books on architecture, demolitions, aircraft statistics, physics, tensile strength, etc.
It might be an idea for you to open some of those books too, you might actually learn something.

are you serious, i dont know where to start with how idiotic you sound.

The fact is in America people who have done all of those things say the same thing.

The only people saying its not a conspiracy is coorporate **** bags with interests to protect or people who have been brainwashed by the media rather than researching the subject themselves.

No matter what u have to say on the matter. This is a pure fact.

Ive looked into both sides and this is my conclusion either look into it or go back to sleep with your media propaganda opinion because ive heard it x 10,0000000000000000 and its boring as hell.

its a great thing to be able to think freely without plagueing the word conspiracy just because the media told u to believe that so that the people in control continue to get away with everything.

some of you olders i wonder what you've spent your life doing.

ive done business since day and as for conspiracies i see them daily.

Your primitive mind does not change what happens ona general scale.

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Originally Posted by Zeph (Post 34501601)
lol this stuff cracks me up. Tin hats please?

a video from the news with George bush and john kerry admitting being part of secret society makes you laugh?

consider yourself a mind controlled slave.

Xaccers 06-03-2008 18:50

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Woohoo! We have a winner!
David Ike is indeed on this board.
Those pesky superior Lizard men again.

THESHAOLIN1 06-03-2008 18:51

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Originally Posted by Stuart C (Post 34501587)
OK, prove it to me.. I am open minded. Of course, if you can't ...

gladly, grab a book by david icke to start, Alice in wonderland and the world trade centre towers. This tears the story apart to show its a lie.

Now go on youtube and check up on the loads of masses of evidence Regarding the news reports made before events even took place,

BBC reported the world trade centre 7 collapsing before it even happened.

And it was admitted that this was brought down in a controlled demolition.

Its all so obvious.

Stuart 06-03-2008 18:53

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Originally Posted by THESHAOLIN1 (Post 34501600)
Its still a secret society just because its KNOWN does not stop it from being secret, the majority of mass public do not know about it, and its where abouts and what happens there is left in secret....So therefore like all freemasonic lodges and the fact its tied up in a web with thousands of other secret societies, Makes it a secret soceity. Simple.

anyone who thinks 9/11 and 7/7 bombings was not a conspiracy SIMPLY has only looked into one side, im open minded and before i even looked into them i done lots of research from both angles.


www.wearechange.org. Here it from the **** bags themselves when they get caught out on questions...

ive read about 4 books on 9/11 tearing the whole story apart, Anyone who can accept that is truth has honestly lost there logic n ability to seperate truth from fiction.

The whole media story was a complete n utter lie. Then when you add up the Motives and whats happened after these events it begins to make sense, More research makes you understand the world u live in and how guys like george orwell being politically involved were merely speaking about what was going to happen rather than what could of happened.

and no if george bush is human im a plaedician. Because that guy has as much soul n spirit and compassion in him as a rock.

dont even get me started with human DNA n how the majority of humans have just absorbed science as fact without even realising science n religion branches from the same tree, n answers only primitive answers in life.

Our DNA has been mass manipulated anyhow hence were nothing like the former primeapes we've descended from and posess a reptilian Brain named the R complex in the centre of our minds which is responsible for every negative trait in a human you can imagine.

Proof?

Xaccers 06-03-2008 18:54

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Originally Posted by THESHAOLIN1 (Post 34501608)
gladly, grab a book by david icke to start, Alice in wonderland and the world trade centre towers. This tears the story apart to show its a lie.

Now go on youtube and check up on the loads of masses of evidence Regarding the news reports made before events even took place,

BBC reported the world trade centre 7 collapsing before it even happened.

And it was admitted that this was brought down in a controlled demolition.

Its all so obvious.


Come on, out with it, this is a wind up really isn't it? No sane person would truly believe that tat.

THESHAOLIN1 06-03-2008 18:59

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Originally Posted by Xaccers (Post 34501606)
Woohoo! We have a winner!
David Ike is indeed on this board.
Those pesky superior Lizard men again.

lololololololololololololol

you clearly have read way to many papers, get your own opinions.

Ive read loads about icke apart from the lizard stuff which is his own opinion to have on history, He talks complete sense and just deals with the Facts.

Unlike you and the media. Why you protect these guys i do question.

The older generation should be ashamed of there ability not to look into things n just using the medias opinion.

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Originally Posted by Xaccers (Post 34501615)
Come on, out with it, this is a wind up really isn't it? No sane person would truly believe that tat.

sadly what you want to believe, and what is truth are to completely different things.

The truth does not change on your ability to stomach it.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=6mxFRigYD3s

do your research ive done mine.

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Originally Posted by Stuart C (Post 34501614)
Proof?

what would u like proof for?

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http://youtube.com/watch?v=j2q2mD2HaKA

^^^^^^^Larry Silverstein (lease owner of both world trade centre towers and world trade centre 7 admits to having demolished wtc building 7

Stuart 06-03-2008 19:02

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Originally Posted by THESHAOLIN1 (Post 34501608)
gladly, grab a book by david icke to start, Alice in wonderland and the world trade centre towers. This tears the story apart to show its a lie.

Well, knowing people who have actually been there, investigated what happened and who have no love for the US government and who still say that it happened pretty much as told, I'd be inclined to believe them.

Also, how do you know that David Icke isn't under the control of a secret society?
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Now go on youtube and check up on the loads of masses of evidence
Youtube: The site controlled by one of the largest web companies in the world, and surely a tool of the various secret societies?

I too have researched this, but the videos I have seen (on youtube and other sites) could easily be faked.
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Regarding the news reports made before events even took place,

BBC reported the world trade centre 7 collapsing before it even happened.
Where's the evidence of this?

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And it was admitted that this was brought down in a controlled demolition.

Its all so obvious.
It's obvious that a lot goes on in this world that we are either lied to about, or simply not told about. The conspiracy theories you have spouted, not so obvious.

Russ 06-03-2008 19:03

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The thing is you are making claims without backing it up with evidence. If that's the way you work then fine, I don't have a problem with it. However making a claim then telling people to go look it up is not the way to win anyone over.

If you continue that way then you won't change anyone's minds on CF.

THESHAOLIN1 06-03-2008 19:05

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Originally Posted by Russ B (Post 34501633)
The thing is you are making claims without backing it up with evidence. If that's the way you work then fine, I don't have a problem with it. However making a claim then telling people to go look it up is not the way to win anyone over.

If you continue that way then you won't change anyone's minds on CF.


agreed ive only just got here but i know people are lazy n cant look into corruption n conspiracies simply because of there preconceptions of it all set by the media, no one said knowledge and proof comes through just seeing a signed agreement saying george bush done it. You first work out the lies, you use your logic to realise the motives of who done it.

Hitler done exactly the same thing in his country to his people because he was controlled by the same people george bush was. It is not my job to do research for people however, we are all humans with our own minds therefore ill gladly tell people how it is and let them look into it to realise im telling the truth but give me time and ill proove many different things aslong as people remain open minded n look at something before judging wildly.

Xaccers 06-03-2008 19:09

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Originally Posted by THESHAOLIN1 (Post 34501617)
lololololololololololololol

you clearly have read way to many papers, get your own opinions.

Ive read loads about icke apart from the lizard stuff which is his own opinion to have on history, He talks complete sense and just deals with the Facts.

Unlike you and the media. Why you protect these guys i do question.

The older generation should be ashamed of there ability not to look into things n just using the medias opinion.

This from someone who bases their opinion on debunked conspiracy theory books and youtube?
I do hope you're not representative of the "younger" generation's reasoning ability, as yours is rather lacking.
Seriously, seek medical assistance.

Russ 06-03-2008 19:10

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Originally Posted by THESHAOLIN1 (Post 34501635)
It is not my job to do research for people however,

Well....yes it is. Common decency and etiquette (and indeed some libel laws) dictate that if you make an allegation, you back it up or it just becomes your opinion (which of course you're entitled to).

For example I could say that you have an unhealthy and personal relationship with watermelons. Doesn't make it true and unless i back it up with evidence (which of course I cannot) then it makes me appear to be clutching at straws.

No-one here is against you (well, apart from BBking maybe) so if you are able to post concrete and unamibiguous evidence then I'm sure you'll have plety of converts to your cause.

THESHAOLIN1 06-03-2008 19:19

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Originally Posted by Stuart C (Post 34501632)
Well, knowing people who have actually been there, investigated what happened and who have no love for the US government and who still say that it happened pretty much as told, I'd be inclined to believe them.

Most americans dont really have a clue whats happening with regards to there country i know thousands of americans who support the fact it was an inside job just go on youtube you'll find thousands of videos on it its a massive thing nowadays and Wearchange.org is a website showing how these guys cant even answer basic questions, if they were telling the truth answering questions would be a breeze because its the truth, these guys avoid them and get agitated. I know a liar when i see one. Beyond that the evidence, motive and general facts point at a false flag operation as will be prooven soon.

Also, how do you know that David Icke isn't under the control of a secret society?

i dont i just judge him i judge his information as far as i can see ive read many many books from thousands of different sources n people who have lived all kinda of lives i just try to read as much as i can, and when i found david icke n looked into him n what he was saying i noticed alot of what he spoke about i already knew he just brought some other things to my attention.

None of these guys ever FORCE you to listen they just say look into it where as with the media the reporter just repeats what hes been told to tell you as truth even though they've no idea what the information is, and then you get thousands of people in the UK repeating it as "truth".


Youtube: The site controlled by one of the largest web companies in the world, and surely a tool of the various secret societies?

yep, there also an open source site for videos and they take down videos on these topics all the time, ive posted a video showing a man made bridge built over 175 million years ago over by the sri lanka area few days later it was removed for no reason. Google video has been known for doing this all the time its just people keep uploading stuff, although i know youtubes a **** bag coorporation owned by rupert murdoch that does not change the ability of humans being able to post up pieces of the jig saw puzzle to make the bigger picture form clearer.

I too have researched this, but the videos I have seen (on youtube and other sites) could easily be faked.

Depends what your classing as faked, i find alot of the time the youtube videos regarding 9/11 are just using there own information against them showing how it doesnt add up n must of been a lie because it defies logic and possibility.

Where's the evidence of this?

Theres tons i suggest reading a book first to put things into perspective so you understand the other side to the story then further research to put the jig saw puzzle pieces together. Im sorry to say but 7/7 bombings were done identical on both days there were terrorist bomb drills going on, by the intelligence agencies n other linked groups....is this merely a coincidence on both days and is it merely a coincidence george Senior bush spoke about the new world order on september 11th 10 years before 9/11 happened on the same date....i dont think so.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=7a9Syi12RJo << video of him saying it there.



It's obvious that a lot goes on in this world that we are either lied to about, or simply not told about. The conspiracy theories you have spouted, not so obvious.

this is true but whats obvious in a world where your basically told to shut up n get on with it, i find once you start reading the world becomes a very different more bigger deeper place than what your current lifes experiences taught as they are pretty limited

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Originally Posted by Xaccers (Post 34501638)
This from someone who bases their opinion on debunked conspiracy theory books and youtube?
I do hope you're not representative of the "younger" generation's reasoning ability, as yours is rather lacking.
Seriously, seek medical assistance.


you've no idea what research i have n havnt done. Ive read more books in my lifetime than you probably have yours.

So lets be honest what opinion do you have on the subject other than what the news told you was happening?

Russ 06-03-2008 19:21

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I hope you don't mind me taking a sceptic's view on your approach to 9/11.

Although very crude, do a google for 'maddox' (he's always the top search) and read his views. I won't post a link here as his site contains a lot of bad language but his reaction to Loose Change is rather compelling (and, IMO, more believable).

Enuff 06-03-2008 19:22

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Originally Posted by Xaccers (Post 34501638)
Seriously, seek medical assistance.

We could say the same thing to people who believe in a god.

THESHAOLIN1 06-03-2008 19:25

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Originally Posted by Russ B (Post 34501641)
Well....yes it is. Common decency and etiquette (and indeed some libel laws) dictate that if you make an allegation, you back it up or it just becomes your opinion (which of course you're entitled to).

For example I could say that you have an unhealthy and personal relationship with watermelons. Doesn't make it true and unless i back it up with evidence (which of course I cannot) then it makes me appear to be clutching at straws.

No-one here is against you (well, apart from BBking maybe) so if you are able to post concrete and unamibiguous evidence then I'm sure you'll have plety of converts to your cause.


evidence of a subject which is kept well under wraps such as this, the evidence comes over time in the form of small jig saw puzzle pieces that like i said eventually build up the bigger picture.

I will keep posting more pieces of evidence im not going out of my way to proove this to anyone, its no gain of mine i know thousands of people though n speak with many about this information and who are in awareness of whats happening.

and i never assumed anyone was against me, but if people cant look into information no matter what it implies they dont have an open mind how ever they wish to split hairs.

Really it isnt my job to do research for people, i just posted this video as its proof alot goes on beyond your vision. The human who cannot openly look at information is also the same guy to just stereotype me foolishly asa conspiracy theorist or nutcase. Which is foolish in itself as i could make endless assumptions about them.

Xaccers 06-03-2008 19:26

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Originally Posted by Enuff (Post 34501659)
We could say the same thing to people who believe in a god.

Yes, yes we could.
Best to do it in a new thread though :)

THESHAOLIN1 06-03-2008 19:27

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Originally Posted by Russ B (Post 34501658)
I hope you don't mind me taking a sceptic's view on your approach to 9/11.

Although very crude, do a google for 'maddox' (he's always the top search) and read his views. I won't post a link here as his site contains a lot of bad language but his reaction to Loose Change is rather compelling (and, IMO, more believable).


no problem ive seen loose change personally i view it as the eye opener but no way does it cover the extent of the evidence. Theres better videos out there.

i will watch whats mentioned no problem. Most time i notice these debunking videos and articles do not even deal with the main facts just a personal thing ive noticed.

mean while checkout http://youtube.com/watch?v=0gk9sABtJxM <<<its a conference talk with richard dear love which is replies are very interesting.

Stuart 06-03-2008 19:29

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Theshaolin, you have assumed I was referring to Americans. I made no reference to their nationality..

It's also interesting to note that you appear to be dismissing what other people are saying without know what research other people (to paraphrase you) "have n haven't done" . I have looked into various conspiracy theories, including the theories you have bought up. I haven't seen a single bit of evidence presented that cannot be disproved.

Russ 06-03-2008 19:30

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Originally Posted by THESHAOLIN1 (Post 34501664)
evidence of a subject which is kept well under wraps such as this, the evidence comes over time in the form of small jig saw puzzle pieces that like i said eventually build up the bigger picture.

Evidence under wraps...ok.....so if the evidence is not actually 'there' yet, then it's still only a theory, right? Isn't existence of evidence that which makes something a fact?

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Originally Posted by THESHAOLIN1 (Post 34501664)
I will keep posting more pieces of evidence im not going out of my way to proove this to anyone, its no gain of mine i know thousands of people though n speak with many about this information and who are in awareness of whats happening.

That's your right of course but please don't come accross as being so defensive when people doubt your views if you will not (or cannot) provide proof.

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Originally Posted by THESHAOLIN1 (Post 34501664)
and i never assumed anyone was against me, but if people cant look into information no matter what it implies they dont have an open mind how ever they wish to split hairs.

I think it might be more to do with them having a lot of evidence to support their own theories and ideas so it would be tough to get them to see any other viewpoint if evidence is not produced.

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Originally Posted by THESHAOLIN1 (Post 34501664)
Really it isnt my job to do research for people, i just posted this video as its proof alot goes on beyond your vision. The human who cannot openly look at information is also the same guy to just stereotype me foolishly asa conspiracy theorist or nutcase. Which is foolish in itself as i could make endless assumptions about them.

And you'd keep them to yourself of course as all posters on CF need to stick to our T&Cs.

You're right it's not your job to research information for people but do you not think it might give your views more momentum if you did? otherwise this thread will just sink in to the forum history just like all the other conspiracy theory threads we've had which people have not posted evidence in?

If you want to expose these conspiracies, wouldn't it be in your interest to keep them at the front of people's imagination?

THESHAOLIN1 06-03-2008 19:32

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Xaccers (Post 34501666)
Yes, yes we could.
Best to do it in a new thread though :)

god is supported by faith and has no proof of his existance other than a "holy" book.

Where as this is supported by logic, real life, the events that take place, people who have worked in positions of power to know whats happening, Common sense, Correlating information, The fact the Whole media story was a lie, the War in iraq thats led to an ongoing war, the direction the planets taken and the laws and policies that have changed since these Key events.

not to mention none of the politicans can answer any questions.

and george bush lied about seeing the first plane on tv when he was in a school classroom when the first plane hit.

literally the evidence is unreal i could go on for pages hence i promote each person does there own research.

Xaccers 06-03-2008 19:33

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Originally Posted by THESHAOLIN1 (Post 34501652)
you've no idea what research i have n havnt done. Ive read more books in my lifetime than you probably have yours.

So lets be honest what opinion do you have on the subject other than what the news told you was happening?

Yes I do, you've told us, you've read "about" 4 books on 9/11 (so arithmatic is obviously up there with literacy), along with "thousands" of youtube videos.
The number of books is irrelivant, the content is what matters.

Whereas I have studied physics and mathematics to a degree level, know structual, civil and aviation engineers, know people who were on the ground when it happened, have a friend who was actually on the phone to a colleague in one of the upper floors when the first plane struck, and I'm not a gullible loon.

Damien 06-03-2008 19:36

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how amusing. The ones who opened a book rather than accepting there governments word for it?
No, the ones who only read books that support their view and do not care that the authors are not experts in the subjects.

Russ 06-03-2008 19:36

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On the subject of the thread title, "...and acting suspicious", wasn't a certain Mr De Menezes regarded as 'acting suspiciousl?

jkat 06-03-2008 19:43

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Originally Posted by THESHAOLIN1 (Post 34501617)
The older generation should be ashamed of there ability not to look into things n just using the medias opinion.

respect theshaolini1! ;) lol your falling into the trap of stereotyping the older generations, david icke is of the older generation dont forget. not that i agree with him but we are all entitled to our opinions, peace :)

THESHAOLIN1 06-03-2008 19:47

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Originally Posted by Russ B (Post 34501672)
Evidence under wraps...ok.....so if the evidence is not actually 'there' yet, then it's still only a theory, right? Isn't existence of evidence that which makes something a fact?

When does something become not a theory to you, When its announced on commercial news? that would never happen so its only a fact when YOU as a person know the truth. I rely on my own mind n i know i can do research efficiently ive been able to soruce products as a business man online for years with no problems anything ive wanted. So finding the truth is using a similar formula. As to get these products you have to realise if the person your buying from in trade is legit or not. Same with when dealing with information if its the truth or not. Theres unreal amounts of evidence supporting this just not in the form the average human wants which requires them to do no research or mental work.

That's your right of course but please don't come accross as being so defensive when people doubt your views if you will not (or cannot) provide proof.

im not defensive in the slightest, i just have a reply for you and i can supply proof. Like i said it takes time, good things come to those who wait. Albert einstien didnt just wake up one day with all this knowledge, it was the product of pure research and he knew what the government were upto as i can see now. You guys need to chill n look into it yourself or simply wait.


I think it might be more to do with them having a lot of evidence to support their own theories and ideas so it would be tough to get them to see any other viewpoint if evidence is not produced.

I'd love to see these theories. Because no theory changes the media story which is a lie or the fact the politicians cant answer questions.

This is not a theory of how it happened this is just taking the story apart to see its a lie, how it happened im not going to go into because people arent ready for that info.



And you'd keep them to yourself of course as all posters on CF need to stick to our T&Cs.

You're right it's not your job to research information for people but do you not think it might give your views more momentum if you did? otherwise this thread will just sink in to the forum history just like all the other conspiracy theory threads we've had which people have not posted evidence in?

If you want to expose these conspiracies, wouldn't it be in your interest to keep them at the front of people's imagination?

I would keep them to myself not because im told but because it would only make me a fool to do otherwise i dont know these people so ive nothing to say on what they've seen or read, but when i hear responses ive heard thousands of times before, its to predictable.

i agree, n like i said ill continue to post bits of evidence if people are interested to see. As for conspiracies ive never once mentioned this word.

Conspiracies are what 9/11 and 7/7 are yes at a surface level but beyond that they are much much more. These are events to change the world. People just dont learn from history to see this and im not actually trying to expose anything really i just have alot of knoweldge on these subjects n read alot so i thought i'd bring them to a forum which had an older age range of people on here.


Russ 06-03-2008 19:50

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Originally Posted by THESHAOLIN1 (Post 34501689)
When does something become not a theory to you

When supported credible evidence is offered.

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Originally Posted by THESHAOLIN1 (Post 34501689)
I would keep them to myself not because im told but because it would only make me a fool to do otherwise

No, you keep them to yourself as otherwise you'd risk breaking the site's T&Cs. If this happens infraction points get awarded and once you reach a certain level you wouldn't be able to post here. I don't know if that makes CableForum part of the global conspiracy to hide these 'facts' but you agreed to our T&Cs when you signed up.

Damien 06-03-2008 19:53

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I am young and I don't buy the media's storys. However, I also have respect for the value of a source. Which you clearly do not.

THESHAOLIN1 06-03-2008 19:58

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Originally Posted by Damien (Post 34501697)
I am young and I don't buy the media's storys. However, I also have respect for the value of a source. Which you clearly do not.

what books have u read about 9/11 being a conspiracy?

oh and my sources come by the thousands, even michael Meacher Ex MP know 9/11 was an inside job and many high up military officers.

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Originally Posted by Russ B (Post 34501693)
When supported credible evidence is offered.



No, you keep them to yourself as otherwise you'd risk breaking the site's T&Cs. If this happens infraction points get awarded and once you reach a certain level you wouldn't be able to post here. I don't know if that makes CableForum part of the global conspiracy to hide these 'facts' but you agreed to our T&Cs when you signed up.


i cant say being banned when im a member of about 40 forums most of them double the size of this one of them with over a million users which im a mod of really would make me loose sleep, but im mature enough to not get banned anyway, unless this board goes on nazi style n restricts freedom of speech?

Otherwise theres no problems as for my information being prooven, people beg for proof but do not understand in what form it comes in.

Understand research, then you understand how truth comes.

Russ 06-03-2008 20:00

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Originally Posted by THESHAOLIN1 (Post 34501700)
Otherwise theres no problems as for my information being prooven, people beg for proof but do not understand in what form it comes in.

And so far it's come in the forum of..."go find out for yourself".

People are willing to believe you, if you provide evidence. I see no benefit to you or your cause by offering proof then claiming to only provide bits and pieces.

THESHAOLIN1 06-03-2008 20:01

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ive posted quite a few videos already which proove parts of what ive been saying....have u not watched any of them

Russ 06-03-2008 20:05

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Originally Posted by THESHAOLIN1 (Post 34501707)
ive posted quite a few videos already which proove parts of what ive been saying....have u not watched any of them

Think you've just answered your own question there. What you have posted has not convinced me that 9/11 was part of a conspiracy. I'm willing to believe that it was used as an excuse to go to war, but the actual twin tower attacks, I refuse to believe any man or woman is cold hearted enough to give the go-ahead for that to happen.

Nothing you have posted (yet) has changed my mind. I invite you to do something about that.

Damien 06-03-2008 20:07

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Originally Posted by THESHAOLIN1 (Post 34501700)
what books have u read about 9/11 being a conspiracy?

I have not read any books, but since they already have a motive and a agenda to set out it's unlikely to be credible. I have read a lot about 9/11, I have watched Terrorstorm, listened to Alex Jones, Watched Loose Change, read the Popular mechanics examination and debunking of the 9/11 report. I also read a lot of the rebuttals to that.

Overall the 9/11 movement has little respect for using a good source, their sources are always weak "look at other building" or people who already believe in the conspiracy theory. They have 'lecturers' at universities who are not even experts in the area they are examing.

So no, we are not all stupid or brought into a lie. We just need credible evidence and good sources before we believe random youtube videos and people on the internet.

THESHAOLIN1 06-03-2008 20:13

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Originally Posted by Russ B (Post 34501711)
Think you've just answered your own question there. What you have posted has not convinced me that 9/11 was part of a conspiracy. I'm willing to believe that it was used as an excuse to go to war, but the actual twin tower attacks, I refuse to believe any man or woman is cold hearted enough to give the go-ahead for that to happen.

Nothing you have posted (yet) has changed my mind. I invite you to do something about that.

if you really think i get drawn in n believe stuff based on a few videos n articles you really underestimate my mind.

Like i said let me build the evidence up ill keep doing topics n keep checking them, but im a busy guy so bear with me, im only on the pc at the moment because i need to check my emails n respond.

Maggy 06-03-2008 20:16

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I'm right out of popcorn..I'll be back...

THESHAOLIN1 06-03-2008 20:16

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Damien (Post 34501713)
I have not read any books, but since they already have a motive and a agenda to set out it's unlikely to be credible. I have read a lot about 9/11, I have watched Terrorstorm, listened to Alex Jones, Watched Loose Change, read the Popular mechanics examination and debunking of the 9/11 report. I also read a lot of the rebuttals to that.

Overall the 9/11 movement has little respect for using a good source, their sources are always weak "look at other building" or people who already believe in the conspiracy theory. They have 'lecturers' at universities who are not even experts in the area they are examing.

So no, we are not all stupid or brought into a lie. We just need credible evidence and good sources before we believe random youtube videos and people on the internet.

Read a book then we can talk until then take your commercial alex jones videos like terrorstorm and loose change which are only put there for simple minded people who cant read, oh and your popular mechanics who was obviously paid off by the elite, as another company was suppose to be doing the report but then popular mechanics came about which is no proof of anything.

Money can buy that lie.

and no just read Alice in wonderland and the world trade centres and that alone will put into perspective the reality.

The youtube videos are just more evidence, as for what i say, never did i expect people to believe me, i assumed i was talking to humans with there own mind capabilities? but if im talking to robots who cannot perform basic tasks like type something in on google n see where it takes you to correlate information n see whats being said, i beg my pardon.

and if you've believed the popular mechanics report how can you say you havnt believed a lie? your hating on me but not researching thus i can only say you've believed a lie. Because in your eyes im the problem here.

Stuart 06-03-2008 20:17

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Damien (Post 34501713)

So no, we are not all stupid or brought into a lie. We just need credible evidence and good sources before we believe random youtube videos and people on the internet.

That's the problem. On the Internet, we don't really know who we are talking to, and what their area of expertise is. I'm not going to, but I could write an article on most subjects , and with minimal actual research (with or without credible sources), I could make it convincing to the layman.

I also have access to the resources required to make a fairly convincing video (including special FX if needed). It doesn't automatically follow that what I produced was correct.

This is the problem with the Internet (and technology in general). While it has given us access to an exponentially greater amount of information than we had before, not all of that information is from credible sources.

Of course, that problem has affected the media as well. Many times, I've sat there listening to the news, hearing some "expert" talk, thinking what a bunch of crap they were saying. Of course, when dealing with the media, we don't really know who we are talking to, and what their area of expertise is either.

Damien 06-03-2008 20:23

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Read a book then we can talk until then take your commercial alex jones videos like terrorstorm and loose change which are only put there for simple minded people who cant read, oh and your popular mechanics who was obviously paid off by the elite, as another company was suppose to be doing the report but then popular mechanics came about which is no proof of anything.
Well I spotted many lies in Terrorstorm, so thats not really saying much if it's for 'stupid people'. Also, your placing too much faith in the power of a 'book'. I know when your young there's the 'it's in a book so it must be true'. It's actually not.

Unless the book has real evidence and real sources then it's not someone ranting. Making money off people naive enough to think global issues are summed up as one big story.

THESHAOLIN1 06-03-2008 20:31

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Originally Posted by Damien (Post 34501734)
Well I spotted many lies in Terrorstorm, so thats not really saying much if it's for 'stupid people'. Also, your placing too much faith in the power of a 'book'. I know when your young there's the 'it's in a book so it must be true'. It's actually not.

Unless the book has real evidence and real sources then it's not someone ranting. Making money off people naive enough to think global issues are summed up as one big story.

and what lies were these? go into detail if your gonna call something a lie....

and no because the difference with books is they have bibliographies which are information sourced from thousands of places, people with a brain if they want the truth look deeper into the words spoke within the books which is exactly what i do.

Anyone half wise knows books is where the most truth is written and laid out.

i mean even guys like benjamin franklin have quotes about whats going on in the world is the biggest conspiracy known to man so big they will find it hard impossible to believe.

you really have no clue how to do research, and dont try use my age against me when i can clearly see your age has not benefited your mentality + i own alot for my age and know alot more than the average. A fact which i need not proove to anyone.

papa smurf 06-03-2008 20:36

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Originally Posted by THESHAOLIN1 (Post 34501741)
and what lies were these? go into detail if your gonna call something a lie....

and no because the difference with books is they have bibliographies which are information sourced from thousands of places, people with a brain if they want the truth look deeper into the words spoke within the books which is exactly what i do.

Anyone half wise knows books is where the most truth is written and laid out.

i mean even guys like benjamin franklin have quotes about whats going on in the world is the biggest conspiracy known to man so big they will find it hard impossible to believe.

you really have no clue how to do research, and dont try use my age against me when i can clearly see your age has not benefited your mentality + i own alot for my age and know alot more than the average. A fact which i need not proove to anyone.

oh yea you da man:nworthy::nworthy::nworthy::nworthy::nworthy:

dilli-theclaw 06-03-2008 20:36

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The personal attacks on other members WILL STOP NOW

Off topic post removed.

Any further public questioning of a mod decision could result in an infraction being issued.

Nugget 06-03-2008 21:08

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Originally Posted by THESHAOLIN1 (Post 34501585)
lol @ you taking my sarcasm seriously n going into a paragraph about it. Get over yourself.

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the problem is when people dont want to listen ignorance makes it a theory.

Like i said i can proove everything i say. If you guys were actually adult enough you would look into my claims.

But then that would take an open mind wouldnt it?

No no, I'm completely open-minded; it's just that I'm not ignorant enough to take somebody elses poorly thought through theory as fact. Please provide me with some proper information that supports your claims, and I'll happily take them on-board.

However, the fact that you have so far refused to do so, based entirely on the fact that you think we're ignorant (oh, the irony), rather supports the fact that this nonsensical claim is actually the utter toot that we all believe it to be :)

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Originally Posted by THESHAOLIN1 (Post 34501741)
Anyone half wise knows books is where the most truth is written and laid out.

Actually, it's fairly well accepted that books are (not 'is', thank you), where the author presents what they believe to be the truth, or where the author tries to persuade the reader that their beliefs are true - L Ron Hubbard and Scientology anyone?


Anyone? Oh well...

EDIT: Sorry dilli - I posted this before I saw your post. Please feel free to remove it if it's naughty :)

Damien 06-03-2008 21:17

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Quote:

Originally Posted by THESHAOLIN1 (Post 34501741)
i mean even guys like benjamin franklin have quotes about whats going on in the world is the biggest conspiracy known to man so big they will find it hard impossible to believe.

you really have no clue how to do research, and dont try use my age against me when i can clearly see your age has not benefited your mentality + i own alot for my age and know alot more than the average. A fact which i need not proove to anyone.

I am not trying to use your age against you. You were the one who brought age into this. :dozey:

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i just have alot of knoweldge on these subjects n read alot so i thought i'd bring them to a forum which had an older age range of people on here.
and

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Originally Posted by THESHAOLIN1 (Post 34501617)
The older generation should be ashamed of there ability not to look into things n just using the medias opinion.

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Originally Posted by THESHAOLIN1 (Post 34501510)
The problem is most you older guys your answer to everything is get the government to lock people up which is what makes you clueless about how the world works.


So don't try and play the age victimization card when your the one who brought it up. Also, I do not know your age, I am also young. You seem to have come on here and label everyone stupid or buying into properganda if they don't share your views.

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and no because the difference with books is they have bibliographies which are information sourced from thousands of places, people with a brain if they want the truth look deeper into the words spoke within the books which is exactly what i do.
And again, I do know how to do research. No need to be insulting. Having a bibliography is not what's important. The information sourced is, so you could have 1000's of pages of bibliographies if the information they sourced was either incredible or used out of context (something 9/11 people do a lot of, such as forgetting to mention WTC 7 was on fire for hours) then it means nothing.

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and what lies were these? go into detail if your gonna call something a lie....
Ok he says:

"Tony Blair's Labour Party were heading to certain defeat in the General Election, then the bombings happened. Suddenly he was elected back in." Suggesting it was a scare mongering attempt to win a election

That is a lie. The bombings happened two months after the election. The election was on the 5th May 2005, and Bombings 7th July 2005.

Now, I may not have read all these books and obviously am quite dumb for a 21 year old. But does that not strike you as a lie designed to trick people into believing your story?

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Anyone half wise knows books is where the most truth is written and laid out.
No, Most people know not to believe everything they read. Why are newspapers likely to all be lying (and they often do) but publishing houses are exempt from all corruption? If there is a global conspiracy, how come book publishers are the only ones not in on it?

BBKing 06-03-2008 21:18

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There's one touchstone I always use on 9/11 conspiracies, which is to work out whether the writer knows how aircraft are built and behave in crashes. If they don't, which is most of the conspiracy theorists, I bin them.

I was at university with Mohammed Atta. Not sure if I mentioned it before. Strangely enough he wasn't down the student bar a lot.

Damien 06-03-2008 21:18

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Originally Posted by BBKing (Post 34501793)
There's one touchstone I always use on 9/11 conspiracies, which is to work out whether the writer knows how aircraft are built and behave in crashes. If they don't, which is most of the conspiracy theorists, I bin them.

I was at university with Mohammed Atta. Not sure if I mentioned it before. Strangely enough he wasn't down the student bar a lot.

Sure you were BBKing, we all know he didn't exist. :D

A lot of the writers of these conspiracies also seem to think they know more about engineering than engineers. Such as the collapse of the two towers.

lostandconfused 06-03-2008 21:43

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Actually what the OP has posted is all true, I have credible evidance that supports all of his claim, although he hasnt gone far enough. Infact the bush administration has found a way of waking the dead and is taking advise from winston churchill. Ofcourse i couldnt possibly share this proof with you all as none of you is cleaver nuff to unerstand it like.

Right o i have a foil hat with my name all over it. Im outta here!

Nugget 06-03-2008 21:46

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Originally Posted by lostandconfused (Post 34501821)
Actually what the OP has posted is all true, I have credible evidance that supports all of his claim, although he hasnt gone far enough. Infact the bush administration has found a way of waking the dead and is taking advise from winston churchill. Ofcourse i couldnt possibly share this proof with you all as none of you is cleaver nuff to unerstand it like.

Right o i have a foil hat with my name all over it. Im outta here!

pshaw - George Romero discovered that secret 40 years ago ;)

Anyway, your foil hat won't save you - I've seen Signs. I've just stocked upon water, so I'll be alright!

THESHAOLIN1 07-03-2008 02:35

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Nugget (Post 34501781)
No no, I'm completely open-minded; it's just that I'm not ignorant enough to take somebody elses poorly thought through theory as fact. Please provide me with some proper information that supports your claims, and I'll happily take them on-board.

However, the fact that you have so far refused to do so, based entirely on the fact that you think we're ignorant (oh, the irony), rather supports the fact that this nonsensical claim is actually the utter toot that we all believe it to be :)

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Actually, it's fairly well accepted that books are (not 'is', thank you), where the author presents what they believe to be the truth, or where the author tries to persuade the reader that their beliefs are true - L Ron Hubbard and Scientology anyone?


Anyone? Oh well...

EDIT: Sorry dilli - I posted this before I saw your post. Please feel free to remove it if it's naughty :)

with the people who back what i say, i need not proove myself to anyone. Its not my birden if you wish to remain ignorant to the going ons in the world. I will post evidence in topic forms over a period of time but im in no rush to show an ignorant person anything. Like i said an open mind will look into things. If you understand who backed this understanding of the way things work you would certain take a much closer look. Literally some of the most famous people in the world. Guys like Einstien, Newton, H.G. Wells, George Orwell (eric blair), Michael Meacher, Benjamin Franklin, Hitler just to name a few.

and the rest of what you said is air pie.

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Damien (Post 34501784)
I am not trying to use your age against you. You were the one who brought age into this. :dozey:

and






So don't try and play the age victimization card when your the one who brought it up. Also, I do not know your age, I am also young. You seem to have come on here and label everyone stupid or buying into properganda if they don't share your views.

And again, I do know how to do research. No need to be insulting. Having a bibliography is not what's important. The information sourced is, so you could have 1000's of pages of bibliographies if the information they sourced was either incredible or used out of context (something 9/11 people do a lot of, such as forgetting to mention WTC 7 was on fire for hours) then it means nothing.

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Ok he says:

"Tony Blair's Labour Party were heading to certain defeat in the General Election, then the bombings happened. Suddenly he was elected back in." Suggesting it was a scare mongering attempt to win a election

That is a lie. The bombings happened two months after the election. The election was on the 5th May 2005, and Bombings 7th July 2005.

Now, I may not have read all these books and obviously am quite dumb for a 21 year old. But does that not strike you as a lie designed to trick people into believing your story?

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No, Most people know not to believe everything they read. Why are newspapers likely to all be lying (and they often do) but publishing houses are exempt from all corruption? If there is a global conspiracy, how come book publishers are the only ones not in on it?

lol i give up on you, if you cannot research to seperate truth from fiction i suggest you do what schools educated to do so, n just listen n Revise.

Thats the only real education most people have had.

I have read hundreds of books on masses of different topics from how industries work to spiritualism and ancient civilisations. The point is what you think you know about what i know is based on pure assumptions and newspapers are little more than whores that feed information they are told to tell you. Its all from the reuters and its all manipulated just like many of peoples twisted opinions on here. Real life is real life ive seen enough corruption in business alone to know whats real and what isnt.

Quoting david icke who only ever speaks truth but gets judged by idiots who watch to much tv n dont give the brainwashing "revising" a rest.

"People who believe that there is no major world conspiracy which involves a small number of people manipulating humanity through a hierarchical structure of control toward a New World Order, all have one identical factor in common.

They have, in actual fact, not looked genuinely into the abundance of well-researched information on world conspiracy to see if there is one!" - David icke.

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Nugget (Post 34501824)
pshaw - George Romero discovered that secret 40 years ago ;)

Anyway, your foil hat won't save you - I've seen Signs. I've just stocked upon water, so I'll be alright!

maybe if you saw daylight you might realise its clear were not the only race in the universe. Theres more to this life experience than those rigid walls.

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Damien (Post 34501796)
Sure you were BBKing, we all know he didn't exist. :D

A lot of the writers of these conspiracies also seem to think they know more about engineering than engineers. Such as the collapse of the two towers.

80% of engineers have said it was a controlled demolition look into it.

You seem to think just because popular mechanics a company hired by them done it its gonna be fair?

come on they might aswell be feeding you candy to shut you up.

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Quote:

Originally Posted by lostandconfused (Post 34501821)
Actually what the OP has posted is all true, I have credible evidance that supports all of his claim, although he hasnt gone far enough. Infact the bush administration has found a way of waking the dead and is taking advise from winston churchill. Ofcourse i couldnt possibly share this proof with you all as none of you is cleaver nuff to unerstand it like.

Right o i have a foil hat with my name all over it. Im outta here!

lol jeez.

your in for a shock.

shawty 07-03-2008 04:40

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Quote:

Originally Posted by THESHAOLIN1 (Post 34501961)
with the people who back what i say, i need not proove myself to anyone. Its not my birden if you wish to remain ignorant to the going ons in the world. I will post evidence in topic forms over a period of time but im in no rush to show an ignorant person anything. Like i said an open mind will look into things. If you understand who backed this understanding of the way things work you would certain take a much closer look. Literally some of the most famous people in the world. Guys like Einstien, Newton, H.G. Wells, George Orwell (eric blair), Michael Meacher, Benjamin Franklin, Hitler just to name a few.

and the rest of what you said is air pie.

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lol i give up on you, if you cannot research to seperate truth from fiction i suggest you do what schools educated to do so, n just listen n Revise.

Thats the only real education most people have had.

I have read hundreds of books on masses of different topics from how industries work to spiritualism and ancient civilisations. The point is what you think you know about what i know is based on pure assumptions and newspapers are little more than whores that feed information they are told to tell you. Its all from the reuters and its all manipulated just like many of peoples twisted opinions on here. Real life is real life ive seen enough corruption in business alone to know whats real and what isnt.

Quoting david icke who only ever speaks truth but gets judged by idiots who watch to much tv n dont give the brainwashing "revising" a rest.

"People who believe that there is no major world conspiracy which involves a small number of people manipulating humanity through a hierarchical structure of control toward a New World Order, all have one identical factor in common.

They have, in actual fact, not looked genuinely into the abundance of well-researched information on world conspiracy to see if there is one!" - David icke.

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maybe if you saw daylight you might realise its clear were not the only race in the universe. Theres more to this life experience than those rigid walls.

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80% of engineers have said it was a controlled demolition look into it.

You seem to think just because popular mechanics a company hired by them done it its gonna be fair?

come on they might aswell be feeding you candy to shut you up.

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lol jeez.

your in for a shock.

You willing to make a list of all the egineers in the world and prove 80% agree it was a controlled demolition, no? Thought not. Anyway, they are engineers, you would be talking to the wrong people if you are talking about a controlled demolition.

What do you think crashed into the pentagon? I mean a missile cant bounce of 3 lamposts, hit something else, then stay on course to hit the pentagon and then leave wreckage of the plane they where pretending it had hit.

WTC7, was on fire for hours, http://www.skeptic.com/eskeptic/06-09-11images/fig3.jpg, dont you think the fires would of set off the explosives used to bring down WTC7.

Do you know how long it takes to rig up a building for a controlled demolition and how many people it takes? You think this was done in two of the largest buildings in the world and another big building, without anyone seeing?

Silverstone says "We've had such terrible loss of life, maybe the smartest thing to do is pull it." Meaning pull the firemen out of the recue operation. Why would you risk saying it to billions of people and blowing your whole cover. Same with Bush and the whole seen the first plane hit. Same as the BBC and saying it had collapsed before it had, what thats meant to prove though im not quite sure.

How many do you think would have to be in on this conspiracy? So far we have parts of the American Goverment, The BBC, the faked phone calls from the planes, which means the familys myust be in on it to, Larry Silverstone and the billions of people he has told it was actually a demolition (which he doesnt of course) some people in the military who fired the missile into the pentagon (where did that missile come from) all the eye witnesses who had seen a missile type thing,, oh Ill shut up, I think everyone reading this apart from you gets my drift.

Before doing research wether it be for either side, think logically first.

THESHAOLIN1 07-03-2008 05:44

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Quote:

Originally Posted by shawty (Post 34502009)
You willing to make a list of all the egineers in the world and prove 80% agree it was a controlled demolition, no? Thought not. Anyway, they are engineers, you would be talking to the wrong people if you are talking about a controlled demolition.

What do you think crashed into the pentagon? I mean a missile cant bounce of 3 lamposts, hit something else, then stay on course to hit the pentagon and then leave wreckage of the plane they where pretending it had hit.

WTC7, was on fire for hours, http://www.skeptic.com/eskeptic/06-09-11images/fig3.jpg, dont you think the fires would of set off the explosives used to bring down WTC7.

Do you know how long it takes to rig up a building for a controlled demolition and how many people it takes? You think this was done in two of the largest buildings in the world and another big building, without anyone seeing?

Silverstone says "We've had such terrible loss of life, maybe the smartest thing to do is pull it." Meaning pull the firemen out of the recue operation. Why would you risk saying it to billions of people and blowing your whole cover. Same with Bush and the whole seen the first plane hit. Same as the BBC and saying it had collapsed before it had, what thats meant to prove though im not quite sure.

How many do you think would have to be in on this conspiracy? So far we have parts of the American Goverment, The BBC, the faked phone calls from the planes, which means the familys myust be in on it to, Larry Silverstone and the billions of people he has told it was actually a demolition (which he doesnt of course) some people in the military who fired the missile into the pentagon (where did that missile come from) all the eye witnesses who had seen a missile type thing,, oh Ill shut up, I think everyone reading this apart from you gets my drift.

Before doing research wether it be for either side, think logically first.


LOL @ meaning to pull the firemen out the building i watched the program on bbc you scapegoater, they physically were talking about world trade centre 7 at the time. Its a prooven fact you think people would use that as evidence if it was referring to the firemen you really are insane.

People underestimate how well this is thought out.

And as for how many would be involved in the conspiracy as far as that goes most people wont even be aware of what there doing besides intelligence agencies whose job it is to do that and has been for years anyway as EX CIA and MI5 and MI6 have clearly shown us in there revelations.

+ the amount of papers n past evidence showing the CIA n other intelligence agencies are involved in mass drug trafficking.

a plane hit the pentagon obviously, but a missile hit it aswell as is apparent or it was blew up via an explosive device, and notice the area that was blown up was the a navy sector this was because theres an internal intelligence agency war between intelligence agencies with certain members joining together wanting to expose the truth.

and before 9/11 there was a drill in which the building was searched for bombs by a bomb squad this is well known and mentioned alot publically this, they could easily of planted explosives in the building that is not a factor especially with this revelation of people removed from the building in advance.

lol and saying it collapsed before it even had shows they were told to report it before it had even happened meaning the reuters knew about it in advance which is a big indication to the fact it was an inside job and planned and blueprinted. A perfectly carried out event which has led to the war on iraq and the ever going war on terrorism which is a farce to bring in the new world order and as years have gone by ive known this and seen it come true so i certainly know whose living in fantasies when people tell me "your delusional".

and by the way most the people dont even know what there doing that reporter would of just reported it she has no idea she reported it before the incident took place. If she got showed she might ask questions but you couldnt put the link together so i doubt she would.

It works through the employment control system you know on a need to know basis on what your doing, if your jobs that high you find out about the secrets behind 9/11 your gonna be in the position to keep it under wraps. Such as The CIA, politicians n alike people who are freemasons n have all pledged they will protect there brother freemasons no matter what and carried out initiations which involve placing your hand on a skull n pledging your soul to lucifer.

and world trade centre 7 if you seriously think it was brought down by a fire. You are living in disney land florida im deadly serious i can tell thats a controlled demolition a mile off, the fact you've got larry admitting it prooves my point exactly, you've just attempted to take his words out of context to fit your reality.

hitler done the same in his country to trigger a war, its politics mate and ill show you the hardcore proof as time goes on on this forum i suggest you read like i say alice in wonderland and the world trade centres by david icke its pretty undeniable to see you've been fed a pure n utter movie smoke screen reality of what took place n why it took place.

I mean your trying to make out its more logical a guy in a cave commited this sitting there with his ak47's and invaded one of the most secure nations on the planet when its prooven the air control in america is tight as hell, let alone crashing into the pentagon, thats all intentional and its so obvious.

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Quote:

Originally Posted by BBKing (Post 34501793)
There's one touchstone I always use on 9/11 conspiracies, which is to work out whether the writer knows how aircraft are built and behave in crashes. If they don't, which is most of the conspiracy theorists, I bin them.

I was at university with Mohammed Atta. Not sure if I mentioned it before. Strangely enough he wasn't down the student bar a lot.

that sounds like real great logic.

dismiss absulotely everything which is a hell of a alot of inconsistencies with the official 9/11 story if people dont understand how aircrafts are built.

lostandconfused 07-03-2008 08:50

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Why do you keep saying you will reveal the evidence in time on the forum?

Is it because you dont actually have any and are in the process of making it, or desperatly trawling through websites looking for anything that could or hints that your theories are correct?

This isnt a film where you can reveal information as the plot thickens to keep the viewers interested.

If your so sure why not show this evidence now?

You say if it were true it would be on a need to know basis. If it were true this would be correct, but the amount of explosives needed to bring down the two builings would be quite a lot, there would be wires running every where and there would be quite a few people needed to plant them. So at the time of planting (assuming it was done at night) they may have been told the building would be empty etc. But as soon as it was brought down i think its reasonable that at least one of them would have put 2 and 2 together and realised that its a bit of a coincidence that they were planning on bringing it down the same day as two planes flew into it. Now one of those people would have gone to the media and it would have been reported. It hasn't. Before you use the old the governenment told the media not to report it, there is always the internet which is much harder to control.

Also had this been true, if you went to your office one day and found hundreds of wires trailed all over the place would you be suspicious? I would and would probably leave in a hurry.

You LOL at other people's comments yet make ridiculous claims, such as 80% of engineers would agree it was a demolition. Have you polled every engineer in the world? Or even a sample of engineers? Or is it that you have had a chat with someone in the pub who's uncle had a neighbour who's friend was an engineer and he said it was a demolition?

I am truely surprised that this thread has gone on for so long, i think its because it is entertaining, not because you have persuaded anyone, but because you have made so many outlandish statements, none of them backed up by hard-facts that it is comical.

I have also read lots of books, doesnt mean i am more intelligant than anyone else, it means that i can reference other peoples views on specific subjects. You can have two books that will totally contradict each other. The intelligant bit is working out which sources are more reliable (could be a bit from both) and form your own opinion. From what i have read so far, all you have done is repeat what you have read from your 'books'.

As a final point, if the US and UK government had planned this, and put so much effort into, managed to cover it up so well for so long, do you really think they would allow someone like you to expose them? The fact that you havent been shipped off to gunatanamo for questioning says a lot IMO, although i have heard that electric shock therapy can help for certain syndromes.

Nugget 07-03-2008 10:11

Re: Bush And Kerry Admitting Skull and Bones Membership + Acting suspicious.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by THESHAOLIN1 (Post 34501961)
with the people who back what i say, i need not proove myself to anyone. Its not my birden if you wish to remain ignorant to the going ons in the world. I will post evidence in topic forms over a period of time but im in no rush to show an ignorant person anything. Like i said an open mind will look into things. If you understand who backed this understanding of the way things work you would certain take a much closer look. Literally some of the most famous people in the world. Guys like Einstien, Newton, H.G. Wells, George Orwell (eric blair), Michael Meacher, Benjamin Franklin, Hitler just to name a few.

and the rest of what you said is air pie.

So who are the people who back what you say? More conspiracy theorists who refuse to provide their evidence because a) they haven't got any, and b) they're too busy trying not to slip off the edge of the world, perhaps?

I think you'll find that, if you wish to spread this rumous and scuttlebut, it is your burden (with a 'u' by the way) to provide proof - you can't expect the thinking population to just blindly accept your wild fiction :shrug: The very fact that you're not willing to post your 'evidence' now rather suggests that you haven't got any. Oh, and stating that people are ignorant purely because they don't agree with you pretty much says more about you than it does the rest of us.


As for your list of people who 'backed this understanding'? Hmmm, I'd be more inclined to look into it if you hadn't included Hitler - let's face it, the man who was ultimately responsible for the death of 6 million Jews (plus everyone who died the war) is obviously a reputable source :dozey:

mrobto2000 07-03-2008 10:59

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;)
Quote:

Originally Posted by Damien (Post 34501573)
No, Only the dumb ones do.

Hello,I can see Damien has the perfect answer,I couldn't come out with
somethig better.
mrobto2000

Stuart 07-03-2008 11:15

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Quote:

Originally Posted by THESHAOLIN1 (Post 34502013)

that sounds like real great logic.

dismiss absulotely everything which is a hell of a alot of inconsistencies with the official 9/11 story if people dont understand how aircrafts are built.

Actually: Assuming BBKing knows how planes actually behave when crashing, it is great logic.

BTW, I don't usually pick on people's spelling, but people who read a lot of books normally learn to spell (as much by accident as anything).

Damien 07-03-2008 11:16

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Quote:

lol i give up on you, if you cannot research to seperate truth from fiction i suggest you do what schools educated to do so, n just listen n Revise.
So you give up on me and avoid the question? I point out another lie in the 9/11 truth movement and like all 'truthers' you avoid it?

You are not talking to a bunch of idiots, we do read, we do not believe everything we are told but simply because we do not believe your story to patronise and insult everyone on here. Answer the questions and debate properly or don't bother trying at all. Your just undermining yourself by trying to portray yourself as the only smart person on here.

Hugh 07-03-2008 12:00

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I go away for a day, and look what happens.............


(I was taken up into a spaceship and annually probed - well, it seems to happen once a year or so)

Mr_love_monkey 07-03-2008 12:14

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Quote:

Originally Posted by foreverwar (Post 34502149)
I go away for a day, and look what happens.............

You're away, and THESHAOLIN1 one turns up - coincidence? - or CONSPIRACY - come to think of it I've never seen the two of you in the same room together.

Hugh 07-03-2008 12:18

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr_love_monkey (Post 34502161)
You're away, and THESHAOLIN1 one turns up - coincidence? - or CONSPIRACY - come to think of it I've never seen the two of you in the same room together.

Well, you and I have never been in the same room together (thank you, deity of choice :D ) - does that mean we are one and the same person? (Mr_foreverlove_warmonkey).....

And if so, why are we posting to ourself?

btw, the last two posts, no matter how peurile and inane, still make more sense (imho) than a "certain person's" posts ;)

Mr_love_monkey 07-03-2008 12:25

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Quote:

Originally Posted by foreverwar (Post 34502165)
Well, you and I have never been in the same room together (thank you, deity of choice :D ) - does that mean we are one and the same person? (Mr_foreverlove_warmonkey).....

And if so, why are we posting to ourself?

Well, it's all part of the conspiracy of the New World Order isn't it? - we're planting sedition, and so on.
You set up up a proposition, I either back it, or rubbish it, depending on what outcome we are looking to achieve - thus we are able to generally spread disinformation (which is better that datinformation), and bring down society, as requested by our lords and masters - which are not the 6ft lizards as previously mentioned, that's another lie that we have created to hide our masters true identities - I am of course talking about the bread people. Even now, they're in your house watching you, bravely sacrificing themselves to be eaten by you so that they can learn more about human biology.
Wheat allergy? - it's phase one of their plan to kill one tenth of the human population.
We'd just better hope they don't get their acts together and team up with the peanut people.


Quote:

Originally Posted by foreverwar (Post 34502165)
btw, the last two posts, no matter how peurile and inane, still make more sense (imho) than a "certain person's" posts ;)

That's not fair - Nugget isn't that bad :)

Nugget 07-03-2008 12:52

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr_love_monkey (Post 34502171)
That's not fair - Nugget isn't that bad :)

No no, in fairness, I am pretty bad.

By the way, you may not have been aware, but I'm affiliated with the toast people, and I bring you and your bread brethren the gift of FIRE!!!!!!!!

Mr_love_monkey 07-03-2008 12:54

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Nugget (Post 34502193)
No no, in fairness, I am pretty bad.

By the way, you may not have been aware, but I'm affiliated with the toast people, and I bring you and your bread brethren the gift of FIRE!!!!!!!!

It burns! It burns!

You could redo 'The Sixth Sense' and make it into conspiracy film.
'I see Bread People!'

punky 07-03-2008 12:55

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Nugget (Post 34502193)
No no, in fairness, I am pretty bad.

By the way, you may not have been aware, but I'm affiliated with the toast people, and I bring you and your bread brethren the gift of FIRE!!!!!!!!

:rofl: That takes me back... Ahh the dim and distant days of Comic Relief 2005

Where's that ban button... :)

Nugget 07-03-2008 12:57

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr_love_monkey (Post 34502195)
It burns! It burns!

You could redo 'The Sixth Sense' and make it into conspiracy film.
'I see Bread People!'

Well, Dickens did write about the Toasts of Christmas Past, Present and Future - we've been around a while, you know...

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Gavin (Post 34502196)
:rofl: That takes me back... Ahh the dim and distant days of Comic Relief 2005

Where's that ban button... :)

I think it's next to your toaster, bread boy. Dare you risk it?

Hugh 07-03-2008 13:38

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Nugget (Post 34502193)
No no, in fairness, I am pretty bad.

By the way, you may not have been aware, but I'm affiliated with the toast people, and I bring you and your bread brethren the gift of FIRE!!!!!!!!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr_love_monkey (Post 34502195)
It burns! It burns!

You could redo 'The Sixth Sense' and make it into conspiracy film.
'I see Bread People!'

Only if you're doing it wrong - lube it up (butter, marge, honey -mmmm, if you take the commas out, a member of cf might get annoyed ;) )

BBKing 07-03-2008 13:56

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Quote:

dismiss absulotely everything which is a hell of a alot of inconsistencies with the official 9/11 story if people dont understand how aircrafts are built.
Um. Weeing slightly into the wind here.

If someone is constructing a logical series of arguments that depend on the one before for the integrity of the whole, and I kick out one of the ones at the bottom, it does tend to damage the whole lot, quite apart from the credibility of people with blind faith in the argument I've just kicked out.

In the case of the 9/11, the (rather a priori) argument goes

1) that planes weren't hijacked and flown into the things because
2) something other than a hijacked airliner hit the Pentagon because
3) the damage to the Pentagon is inconsistent with an airliner hitting it

repeat for the other attacks.

However, since I know roughly how aircraft are built (thin tube of aluminium containing air and fuel with a couple of engines slung underneath which consist of a big old fan with a really quite narrow, dense, enormously tough gas turbine behind them), it's not hard to see why the Pentagon damage is entirely consistent with an airliner hitting it - I'd expect the thing to disintegrate completely apart from the dense engine cores which have sufficient penetrative power to go through the building. Reference to images of intact tails sticking out of other accident scenes where the plane went in at half the speed into far less solid buildings are merely desperation, unless you want to argue that driving into a bollard at 30mph results in the same damage as driving into a reinforced concrete wall at 60.

Having kicked out one plank of the argument, the others are no longer automatically true and one is obliged come up with a rational alternative explanation (say, a hijacked airliner being deliberately crashed) in order to keep the least complicated hypothesis (big up William of Ockham). Taking it further, if you have, in a short space and time, one hijacked airliner and three suspected hijacked airliners it is again thanks to Mr. Ockham that we can hypothesise that the same underlying cause is behind all four - once you accept that people planned something once, repeating it is just mass production. The alternative is that four events with identical apparent results (an airliner on an early morning east-west coast flight vanishing within minutes of each other at the same times and in the same locations as a large hole appears in something) have more than one cause, which is by definition multiplying hypotheses unnecessarily.

Hugh 07-03-2008 14:49

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But the space-aliens/black helicopters/6ft lizards/bread people want you think that.........

(you will keep bringing verifiable facts into a thread, won't you? Tchhhhhh.......)

BBKing 07-03-2008 15:09

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Quote:

But the space-aliens/black helicopters/6ft lizards/bread people want you think that.........
Yes, but I'll kick their asses one-on-one, so it doesn't matter.

shawty 07-03-2008 16:03

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Quote:

Originally Posted by THESHAOLIN1 (Post 34502013)
LOL @ meaning to pull the firemen out the building i watched the program on bbc you scapegoater, they physically were talking about world trade centre 7 at the time. Its a prooven fact you think people would use that as evidence if it was referring to the firemen you really are insane.

Yes, and Im physically talking about WTC7 now. Again, I will mention that if the building was rigged with explosives (which it isnt as it would take weeks to plan and carry out, not to mention how they have not been caught rigging the building up, maybe you should watch a controlled demolition, not one happening, but one been rigged up) dont you think the fires that were going for hours would of set of the explosives?

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People underestimate how well this is thought out.
Yes we do, because we didnt think people in caves had this much iteligance (if you can call it that) to pull of a stunt like this.

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And as for how many would be involved in the conspiracy as far as that goes most people wont even be aware of what there doing besides intelligence agencies whose job it is to do that and has been for years anyway as EX CIA and MI5 and MI6 have clearly shown us in there revelations.
Ive just told you, we have the BBC (well they must be in on it, they reported the building collapsing before it did), Larry Silverstone and people connected to him, parts of the government, people firing the misiles, people who said they had seen a plane hit it, people on the plane and their familys. And if not to top it all of, you are saying that Bush, the BBC and Larry Silverstone have blown the cover open by all three of them admiting something they shouldnt, please have some common sense.

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+ the amount of papers n past evidence showing the CIA n other intelligence agencies are involved in mass drug trafficking.
Where is the evidence, plus what as this got to do with 9/11.

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a plane hit the pentagon obviously, but a missile hit it aswell as is apparent or it was blew up via an explosive device, and notice the area that was blown up was the a navy sector this was because theres an internal intelligence agency war between intelligence agencies with certain members joining together wanting to expose the truth.
So you admit a plane hit the pentagon? Why the hell do they also need a missile, come on, common sense again please, just think about it for a second. Why risk using a missile when a plane does the same damage. Oh, are all the firemen in on it to? Larry Silverstone said they should "pull it" to them to.

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and before 9/11 there was a drill in which the building was searched for bombs by a bomb squad this is well known and mentioned alot publically this, they could easily of planted explosives in the building that is not a factor especially with this revelation of people removed from the building in advance.
Before I was in a car accident (I wasnt, but you get the drift) I said to my friend that Ive never been in a car crash before, ohhh blame the government its a conspiracy against me. Drills happen almost weekly if not daily in government and army type places, come on, common sense again please. Oh by the way, we have not got the bomb squad involved in this conspiracy, the list is growing pretty quick, how many people do you want to be involved in this?

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lol and saying it collapsed before it even had shows they were told to report it before it had even happened meaning the reuters knew about it in advance which is a big indication to the fact it was an inside job and planned and blueprinted. A perfectly carried out event which has led to the war on iraq and the ever going war on terrorism which is a farce to bring in the new world order and as years have gone by ive known this and seen it come true so i certainly know whose living in fantasies when people tell me "your delusional".
Common sense, again please use it. Do you think if the government was resposnible for such a thing, they would be stupid enough to bloody tell the whole world about how it was them? Going by logic, it was most likely mis information spreading across from ground zero when Larry Silverstone said "pull it" because the building had been on fire for hours and was showing signes of collapsing. Anyway, regardless, so reuters are now in on the conspiracy as well? Bloody hell, it was only 5 minutes ago you said that it wouldnt take many people.

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and by the way most the people dont even know what there doing that reporter would of just reported it she has no idea she reported it before the incident took place. If she got showed she might ask questions but you couldnt put the link together so i doubt she would.
Which brings us to the point very nicely that logic and common sense states that it was a mistake by the person reporting, it usually happens in live events, nothing new about it.

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It works through the employment control system you know on a need to know basis on what your doing, if your jobs that high you find out about the secrets behind 9/11 your gonna be in the position to keep it under wraps. Such as The CIA, politicians n alike people who are freemasons n have all pledged they will protect there brother freemasons no matter what and carried out initiations which involve placing your hand on a skull n pledging your soul to lucifer.
You keep thinking that, if the evidence was so strong, the US Government and everyone else involved would be facing the death penalty. No such evidence excists, it has all been debunked.

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and world trade centre 7 if you seriously think it was brought down by a fire. You are living in disney land florida im deadly serious i can tell thats a controlled demolition a mile off, the fact you've got larry admitting it prooves my point exactly, you've just attempted to take his words out of context to fit your reality.
He never admitted nothing. He said "pull it" meaning pull the fireman operation due to it being to unsafe and the threat of collapse. I dont know how much common sense you have (not much by the looks of it), but WTC7 had two of the biggest building known to man collapse right next to it, dont you think that would of weakend the foundations of the building? Plus add on the fact the building was on fire for hours. As Ive said and how some logic please, the fires would of set of the explosives well before it had collapsed anyway, also take into the fact how long and how many people it would take to rig such a building that has not been emptied from its contents or people. Please go and watch documentries on how controlled demolitions take place before the collapse.

In conclusion, it seems to me you have watched and read a few things on 9/11 and based no common sense or logic on the situation and just added 2+2 and came out with 896754. You have done no research what so ever.

jamiefrost 07-03-2008 17:06

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Originally Posted by shawty (Post 34502297)
Yes, and Im physically ................

..............have done no research what so ever.

:tu::tu:

Thank you for one of the best thoughtout and well put replys, said it better than I could. Don't think it is going to help at all for some reason.

Wait a minute....

YOUR part of it as well aren't you! Why else would you make a rediculously clear argument full of common sense.

JJ

Nugget 07-03-2008 17:11

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Everybody shush - he's baaaa-aaaaacckkkkk ;)

Hugh 07-03-2008 17:11

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Originally Posted by jamiefrost (Post 34502335)
:tu::tu:

Thank you for one of the best thoughtout and well put replys, said it better than I could. Don't think it is going to help at all for some reason.

Wait a minute....

YOUR part of it as well aren't you! Why else would you make a rediculously clear argument full of common sense.

JJ

Or is he?

Or is that just what THEY want you to think?

Or is it what THEY want you to think that's what THEY want you to think?

OR, is it all just round objects? ;)

Mr_love_monkey 07-03-2008 17:12

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Originally Posted by foreverwar (Post 34502343)
Or is he?

Or is that just what THEY want you to think?

Or is it what THEY want you to think that's what THEY want you to think?

OR, is it all just round objects? ;)

You lost me at 'Hello'

TheNorm 07-03-2008 17:14

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Originally Posted by shawty (Post 34502297)
... and just added 2+2 and came out with 896754. You have done no research what so ever.

Well (he says with his best Homer Simpson voice) some people think 10*10 = 100 and some people think 10 + 10 = 100.... they can't all be right, can they!

THESHAOLIN1 07-03-2008 17:16

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Originally Posted by lostandconfused (Post 34502033)
Why do you keep saying you will reveal the evidence in time on the forum?

Is it because you dont actually have any and are in the process of making it, or desperatly trawling through websites looking for anything that could or hints that your theories are correct?

This isnt a film where you can reveal information as the plot thickens to keep the viewers interested.

If your so sure why not show this evidence now?

You say if it were true it would be on a need to know basis. If it were true this would be correct, but the amount of explosives needed to bring down the two builings would be quite a lot, there would be wires running every where and there would be quite a few people needed to plant them. So at the time of planting (assuming it was done at night) they may have been told the building would be empty etc. But as soon as it was brought down i think its reasonable that at least one of them would have put 2 and 2 together and realised that its a bit of a coincidence that they were planning on bringing it down the same day as two planes flew into it. Now one of those people would have gone to the media and it would have been reported. It hasn't. Before you use the old the governenment told the media not to report it, there is always the internet which is much harder to control.

Also had this been true, if you went to your office one day and found hundreds of wires trailed all over the place would you be suspicious? I would and would probably leave in a hurry.

You LOL at other people's comments yet make ridiculous claims, such as 80% of engineers would agree it was a demolition. Have you polled every engineer in the world? Or even a sample of engineers? Or is it that you have had a chat with someone in the pub who's uncle had a neighbour who's friend was an engineer and he said it was a demolition?

I am truely surprised that this thread has gone on for so long, i think its because it is entertaining, not because you have persuaded anyone, but because you have made so many outlandish statements, none of them backed up by hard-facts that it is comical.

I have also read lots of books, doesnt mean i am more intelligant than anyone else, it means that i can reference other peoples views on specific subjects. You can have two books that will totally contradict each other. The intelligant bit is working out which sources are more reliable (could be a bit from both) and form your own opinion. From what i have read so far, all you have done is repeat what you have read from your 'books'.

As a final point, if the US and UK government had planned this, and put so much effort into, managed to cover it up so well for so long, do you really think they would allow someone like you to expose them? The fact that you havent been shipped off to gunatanamo for questioning says a lot IMO, although i have heard that electric shock therapy can help for certain syndromes.

its because i dont have time for people with waste minds, who are just looking to jump on a bandwagon of hate for information of difference. Them poeple are just as much cancerous as macdonalds therefore i have no respect for you and will not adheed to your demands of "Give me proof" i will however discuss openly with anyone anything they wish to know.

If you really gave any damn about whats happening around you, you would look yourself.

As for what i know ill proove that over time like i keep saying ill make topics, (i have a much busier life style than most you 9-5ers) so i beg you dont treat me like i live the same life as you.

Secondly if people think i actually care about membership to this forum they must be out there mind, dont flatter yourselves im a mod of a site with over a million users and people can actually discuss topics and look into things rather than being stuck up n snobbish about it.

Do your own research or wait till i have time to bring things to your attention.

Say i dont have nothing all you want n hate n be a bitch it really doesnt bother me, because the only fool at the end of it is the fool who is wrong.

and yes loads of engineers say 9/11 was brought down in a controlled demolition literally loads. If i can work it out im sure someone with a bit of history n knowledge on the subject can.

thats how i know your lack real logic, because you think proof comes in the form of a picture with george bush shaking hands with bin laden.....

If you really understood how it worked you would know instantly you build the bigger picture because its a secret event in general which u werent meant to know about.

As a business man who sources products daily my research will be much on point than yours n thus if you wish to discuss 9/11 with me i suggest you actually look into it rather than spilling media hearsay which we've all heard times 10.

+ protecting the true guilty ones when your not earning out of it and your probably not even a freemason.

Thus really your living a complete lie.

Hugh 07-03-2008 17:20

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Look, just because you've woken up on a low and need some munchies, don't take it on us.

Chill, dude.......................

btw, you stated "because the only fool at the end of it is the fool who is wrong"

So true, yet at the same time, so meaningless - and they say drugs don't affect your intelligence and lucidity ;)

THESHAOLIN1 07-03-2008 17:21

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Originally Posted by TheNorm (Post 34502353)
Well (he says with his best Homer Simpson voice) some people think 10*10 = 100 and some people think 10 + 10 = 100.... they can't all be right, can they!


lol @ trying to use george orwell quotes against me.

How bloody ironic.

he knew how the world was and he'd be agreeing with me.

Think about what your saying before you speak.

My research is sufficient.

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Originally Posted by foreverwar (Post 34502358)
Look, just because you've woken up on a low and need some munchies, don't take it on us.

Chill, dude.......................

im sitting in a 25 grand recording studio mate, soundengineering tracks.

but what ever rests best in that feeble mind of yours.

shouldnt u be watching antiques roadshow mate?

Nugget 07-03-2008 17:23

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Originally Posted by THESHAOLIN1 (Post 34502354)
its because i dont have time for people with waste minds, who are just looking to jump on a bandwagon of hate for information of difference. Them poeple are just as much cancerous as macdonalds therefore i have no respect for you and will not adheed to your demands of "Give me proof" i will however discuss openly with anyone anything they wish to know.

Adheed? I'm thinking you might be meaning 'adhere', but I'm not sure... Anyway, you'll find that, without any proof regarding your allegations, it's not a discussion; it's a diatribe.

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If you really gave any damn about whats happening around you, you would look yourself.
Yep, I've looked around, and still don't agree with you :)

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As for what i know ill proove that over time like i keep saying ill make topics, (i have a much busier life style than most you 9-5ers) so i beg you dont treat me like i live the same life as you.
Yet you're still on here? You keep posting threads, and we'll keep debunking them until you either give up or provide evidence for your allegations :shrug:

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Secondly if people think i actually care about membership to this forum they must be out there mind, dont flatter yourselves im a mod of a site with over a million users and people can actually discuss topics and look into things rather than being stuck up n snobbish about it.

Do your own research or wait till i have time to bring things to your attention.
You were on here for quite a while yesterday, so you must have a fair amount of time. Tell you what - why don't you stay on here for a bit and provide your evidence, and I'm sure the site that you (allegedly) moderate will be happy to tick over while you attempt to convert the masses :)

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Say i dont have nothing all you want n hate n be a bitch it really doesnt bother me, because the only fool at the end of it is the fool who is wrong.
Would it be churlish of me to point out that you're wrong; ergo a fool?

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Originally Posted by THESHAOLIN1 (Post 34502359)
he knew how the world was and he'd be agreeing with me.

If he wasn't dead, anyway...

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im sitting in a 25 grand recording studio mate, soundengineering tracks.
I'm sitting in a half billion turnover company matey - big whoops...

Hugh 07-03-2008 17:23

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Originally Posted by THESHAOLIN1 (Post 34502359)
lol @ trying to use george orwell quotes against me.

How bloody ironic.

he knew how the world was and he'd be agreeing with me.

Think about what your saying before you speak.

My research is sufficient.

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im sitting in a 25 grand recording studio mate, soundengineering tracks.

but what ever rests best in that feeble mind of yours.

shouldnt u be watching antiques roadshow mate?

25 grand - what's up, couldn't you afford a proper mixing desk. :D

It's difficult watching TV when you are in charge of 150 people (which, funnily enough, includes 20 sound engineers and 10 music studios).

I am not sure if you are addled, drug-addled, or merely deluded - difficult to tell, really.

Mr_love_monkey 07-03-2008 17:29

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Originally Posted by Nugget (Post 34502364)

I'm sitting in a half billion turnover company matey - big whoops...

That all? - we could buy you with small change :)

Actually, we're so rich, we use 25 grand recording studios as dog kennels :)

Nugget 07-03-2008 17:31

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Originally Posted by Mr_love_monkey (Post 34502375)
That all? - we could buy you with small change :)

Actually, we're so rich, we use 25 grand recording studios as dog kennels :)

P'shaw - I use those as dog bowls.


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