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Osem 04-03-2008 11:32

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First it was the Invasion of the Jellyfish but did anyone see this last night?

http://www.channel4.com/video/the-fa...mbers_p_1.html

I haven't seen all of it yet but what I have seen was quite worrying. Yes counterfeiting has been around since the year dot but apparently in more recent times, huge corporations have been so eager to ship their maufacturing off to the cheapest place that they've not been very diligent in protecting their brands or indeed their customers. Whilst we're all familiar with fake watches, DVD's, perfume and handbags, more worrying is the widespread fabrication of, for example, counterfeit electronic parts for all sorts of important equipment, faulty condoms destined for Africa and pharmaceuticals containing all sorts of nasty stuff which might do you in even if not receiving your required medication doesn't first!

The programme included footage from a major a conference in London organised by large companies apparently trying to crack down on counterfeiting. One clip said it all really - when asked by a journalist, during a subsequent media briefing, why it was that in almost all cases China is clearly responsible yet they'd managed to avoid naming the culprit once during their entire conference, the ensuing awkward silence in the room was truly deafening.

There's another episode next week which I will be watching even though it's all really quite scary. I wonder what we'd do if Iran was behind all this?.....

Mick Fisher 04-03-2008 12:19

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I have no sympathy. The large Corporations have brought this on themselves due to Corporate greed notwithstanding the fact that they have also priced themselves out of the market. They are dinosaurs and deserve to meet the same fate.

The fake drugs however are a tragedy and just illustrate how corrupt and apathetic the authorities are in regulating this industry.

BBKing 04-03-2008 22:16

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Corrupt? No, it's just the usual combination of not wanting to upset businessmen ('light touch regulation') and not putting in enough resources. The latter you can even spin as financial prudence, as Brown did when pushing through 20,000 civil service job cuts.

You don't need corruption to explain it, just the consequence of 30 years of Thatcherism.

Osem 05-03-2008 10:30

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Well China is rapidly becoming (if not already) an economic superpower which if we're not very careful will have us all over a barrel. It's true that they rely on trade with the west but which company/country is going to risk putting its head above the parapet to condemn this sort of practice and risk sanctions by the Chinese?

Hugh 05-03-2008 12:28

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Originally Posted by Osem (Post 34500482)
Well China is rapidly becoming (if not already) an economic superpower which if we're not very careful will have us all over a barrel. It's true that they rely on trade with the west but which company/country is going to risk putting its head above the parapet to condemn this sort of practice and risk sanctions by the Chinese?

They may be enjoying the benefits, but they are also discovering some of the "features"
BBC
"Tackling record levels of inflation is one of China's major tasks for this year, Premier Wen Jiabao has said.
Inflation rose by 7.1% in January - the highest level in more than a decade - and opinion polls show it is one of Chinese people's top concerns....
....Chinese politicians are worried higher food prices could lead to discontent and social unrest, correspondents say."

Taf 05-03-2008 14:35

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I had an urgent call a while back to return my medication for exchange... counterfeit meds had entered the pharmacy supply chain.

I was already feeling unwell, but what if my meds had been for a heart condition or similar?

Osem 05-03-2008 16:05

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Yep - it's all especially worrying for those like our youngest who rely on a number of important medications.
:mad:

THESHAOLIN1 06-03-2008 04:02

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lol counterfit coorporation items especially pharmaceutracal are not a worry, them products are bad enough on there own.

Condoms in africa had aids on them anyway to help spread the infection part of the population control, Along with guns placed in poverty stricken areas of london, nottz and many other areas (yes most organised gangs still exist because there funded by intelligence agencies) and controlling the telephone tower radio waves to make us anxious n to manipulate our emotions. Obviously this informations debatable but reading some open minded books NOT written by authority and taking the truth as authority rather than the authority as truth will soon show to you the reality.

Xaccers 06-03-2008 05:10

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Quote:

Originally Posted by THESHAOLIN1 (Post 34501129)
lol counterfit coorporation items especially pharmaceutracal are not a worry, them products are bad enough on there own.

Condoms in africa had aids on them anyway to help spread the infection part of the population control, Along with guns placed in poverty stricken areas of london, nottz and many other areas (yes most organised gangs still exist because there funded by intelligence agencies) and controlling the telephone tower radio waves to make us anxious n to manipulate our emotions. Obviously this informations debatable but reading some open minded books NOT written by authority and taking the truth as authority rather than the authority as truth will soon show to you the reality.

Oh for crying out loud!
Condoms were not laced with HIV, that was something which the local catholic church was found to be saying, along with latex having holes in it big enough to let HIV through to try and get people to abstain rather than use contraceptive. :rolleyes:
For starters, as with most viruses, survival outside a biological entity is very short, so a condom with HIV on it would soon be inert.
If you did some proper research into such things you'd know this, ok so it would be less "exciting" than a conspiracy theory, but then, real life generally is less "exciting"
Next you'll be saying that McDonalds mixes worms in with their burger meat...

THESHAOLIN1 06-03-2008 05:33

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Originally Posted by Xaccers (Post 34501142)
Oh for crying out loud!
Condoms were not laced with HIV, that was something which the local catholic church was found to be saying, along with latex having holes in it big enough to let HIV through to try and get people to abstain rather than use contraceptive. :rolleyes:
For starters, as with most viruses, survival outside a biological entity is very short, so a condom with HIV on it would soon be inert.
If you did some proper research into such things you'd know this, ok so it would be less "exciting" than a conspiracy theory, but then, real life generally is less "exciting"
Next you'll be saying that McDonalds mixes worms in with their burger meat...

the saying Truth is stranger than fiction is very true.

History is best qualified to teach one quoting a german philosopher who many should know the name of. But my point being ive learnt from history kids out in africa got infected blankets given to them by red cross with small pocks.

If you havnt noticed by now the people in control dont give two ***** about africa, n they clearly dont care about UK people as Michael meacher Former MP has expressed his views over alot of things including the iraq war. With pharmaceutracals they treat us like lab rats, once you begin to look into it you realise this. Most drugs they prescribe just bring and so called "cures" just bring about other problems because they are unnatural cures for the disease. Which may i add i believe is the product of all this unnatural food in the supermarkets and in general life. Macdonalds lol dont even go there, There food is certified fake i feel like ive recieved cancer after ive eating it its ridiculous how bad that food is. Supersize me will clear the air for me there.

think you'll find virus's like HIV and Aids are unique virus's which almost "have a mind of there own". They pop out of no where, with no explanation other than black men raping monkeys which is the most ridiculous thing ive ever heard.

The man who invented aids, read that book. As for putting it on condoms. Population control is just a factor for the people who think on a completely different level to you and any MP or politician who you may think has he "power". Just a spokesmen nothing more. A front man of a business. In this case the business is "The system".

Enuff 06-03-2008 08:54

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I didn't watch the program, but did hear someone mention fake eggs?

Sirius 06-03-2008 09:53

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Quote:

Originally Posted by THESHAOLIN1 (Post 34501143)
the saying Truth is stranger than fiction is very true.

History is best qualified to teach one quoting a german philosopher who many should know the name of. But my point being ive learnt from history kids out in africa got infected blankets given to them by red cross with small pocks.

If you havnt noticed by now the people in control dont give two ***** about africa, n they clearly dont care about UK people as Michael meacher Former MP has expressed his views over alot of things including the iraq war. With pharmaceutracals they treat us like lab rats, once you begin to look into it you realise this. Most drugs they prescribe just bring and so called "cures" just bring about other problems because they are unnatural cures for the disease. Which may i add i believe is the product of all this unnatural food in the supermarkets and in general life. Macdonalds lol dont even go there, There food is certified fake i feel like ive recieved cancer after ive eating it its ridiculous how bad that food is. Supersize me will clear the air for me there.

think you'll find virus's like HIV and Aids are unique virus's which almost "have a mind of there own". They pop out of no where, with no explanation other than black men raping monkeys which is the most ridiculous thing ive ever heard.

The man who invented aids, read that book. As for putting it on condoms. Population control is just a factor for the people who think on a completely different level to you and any MP or politician who you may think has he "power". Just a spokesmen nothing more. A front man of a business. In this case the business is "The system".

Quote:

Originally Posted by THESHAOLIN1 (Post 34501129)
lol counterfit coorporation items especially pharmaceutracal are not a worry, them products are bad enough on there own.

Condoms in africa had aids on them anyway to help spread the infection part of the population control, Along with guns placed in poverty stricken areas of london, nottz and many other areas (yes most organised gangs still exist because there funded by intelligence agencies) and controlling the telephone tower radio waves to make us anxious n to manipulate our emotions. Obviously this informations debatable but reading some open minded books NOT written by authority and taking the truth as authority rather than the authority as truth will soon show to you the reality.

Have you forgot to put on your tin foil hat again ?

Osem 06-03-2008 10:11

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Originally Posted by Enuff (Post 34501163)
I didn't watch the program, but did hear someone mention fake eggs?

Yes you did - in China it's cheaper to create hideous chemical based eggs than produce the real thing apparently. BTW the entire show is available to view via the link in the OP.

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Originally Posted by THESHAOLIN1 (Post 34501129)
lol counterfit coorporation items especially pharmaceutracal are not a worry, them products are bad enough on there own.

Really :confused: Those that our youngest sadly has to use prevent him from dying from time to time - the fake ones won't do that!

Xaccers 06-03-2008 11:57

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Quote:

Originally Posted by THESHAOLIN1 (Post 34501143)
the saying Truth is stranger than fiction is very true.

History is best qualified to teach one quoting a german philosopher who many should know the name of. But my point being ive learnt from history kids out in africa got infected blankets given to them by red cross with small pocks.

If you havnt noticed by now the people in control dont give two ***** about africa, n they clearly dont care about UK people as Michael meacher Former MP has expressed his views over alot of things including the iraq war. With pharmaceutracals they treat us like lab rats, once you begin to look into it you realise this. Most drugs they prescribe just bring and so called "cures" just bring about other problems because they are unnatural cures for the disease. Which may i add i believe is the product of all this unnatural food in the supermarkets and in general life. Macdonalds lol dont even go there, There food is certified fake i feel like ive recieved cancer after ive eating it its ridiculous how bad that food is. Supersize me will clear the air for me there.

think you'll find virus's like HIV and Aids are unique virus's which almost "have a mind of there own". They pop out of no where, with no explanation other than black men raping monkeys which is the most ridiculous thing ive ever heard.

The man who invented aids, read that book. As for putting it on condoms. Population control is just a factor for the people who think on a completely different level to you and any MP or politician who you may think has he "power". Just a spokesmen nothing more. A front man of a business. In this case the business is "The system".

Small pocks? I take it you mean small pox? Pull the other one, blankets were not laced with small pox, again, being outside a biological system, exposed to the elements, it doesn't last long.
As for population control, so what you're saying is, those in power in the west don't care about Africa, but on the other hand, they do care about Africa and don't want it to become overcrowded? You can't see the paradox there can you?
The strain of SIV which developed into HIV has been found in chimps in the Congo. Tell me you didn't pay for these books you've be reading?

Maggy 06-03-2008 13:13

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Originally Posted by Xaccers (Post 34501243)
Small pocks? I take it you mean small pox? Pull the other one, blankets were not laced with small pox, again, being outside a biological system, exposed to the elements, it doesn't last long.
As for population control, so what you're saying is, those in power in the west don't care about Africa, but on the other hand, they do care about Africa and don't want it to become overcrowded? You can't see the paradox there can you?
The strain of SIV which developed into HIV has been found in chimps in the Congo. Tell me you didn't pay for these books you've be reading?

Sadly I don't think he is reading any books just websites,blogs and Youtube where of course everyone tells their own version of the truth :rolleyes: and listening to other trolls who like to wind up others.

Damien 06-03-2008 15:33

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Quote:

Originally Posted by THESHAOLIN1 (Post 34501129)
lol counterfit coorporation items especially pharmaceutracal are not a worry, them products are bad enough on there own.

Condoms in africa had aids on them anyway to help spread the infection part of the population control, Along with guns placed in poverty stricken areas of london, nottz and many other areas (yes most organised gangs still exist because there funded by intelligence agencies) and controlling the telephone tower radio waves to make us anxious n to manipulate our emotions. Obviously this informations debatable but reading some open minded books NOT written by authority and taking the truth as authority rather than the authority as truth will soon show to you the reality.

No, the authority lies with those who understand the issue and not some wacko making statements without evidence to back them up. Your last statement is nothing but a empty phase and makes little sense when you examine it.

Examining the validity of statements is done though evidence and all your doing is reading alternative theories and given them undue credit simply because they go against mainstream thinking.

You, like many other people who buy into conspiracies, think that mainstream thinking and experts are nothing but lies and propaganda and thus anything conflicting with their views is automatically 'the truth' that only you can see. It's a ego trip and a extreme overreaction to the idea that sometimes people in authority lie.

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think you'll find virus's like HIV and Aids are unique virus's which almost "have a mind of there own". They pop out of no where, with no explanation other than black men raping monkeys which is the most ridiculous thing ive ever heard.
Well maybe you should research the issue? Did you read that 'they' said it was black men raping monkeys? Because that is not the actual theory. No doubt portraying it as such helps discredit the experts :rolleyes:

If you took the time to research the actual history and not what you read in some alternative theory propaganda you would find the most popular explanation is that hunters contracted the virus after cutting up infected apes in Cameroon at around the turn of the 20th(1900) century. It has long been known that the virus originated in primates, and the blood from these infected apes got into open wounds of the hunters. Here the virus adapted over time to form HIV/Aids. It took over 60 years from those events in Cameroon before the first case of HIV was discovered. We now know that many people died of HIV/Aids before we discovered it.

Your not one of those people who believe HIV/Aids are not linked are you?

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History is best qualified to teach one quoting a german philosopher who many should know the name of. But my point being ive learnt from history kids out in africa got infected blankets given to them by red cross with small pocks.
Again, Wrong. Although some element of truth in it. Those arriving in America used smallpox-ridden blankets to help wipe out the native americans. The Africa/Red Cross thing is complete bull however.

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If you havnt noticed by now the people in control dont give two ***** about africa, n they clearly dont care about UK people as Michael meacher Former MP has expressed his views over alot of things including the iraq war. With pharmaceutracals they treat us like lab rats, once you begin to look into it you realise this. Most drugs they prescribe just bring and so called "cures" just bring about other problems because they are unnatural cures for the disease. Which may i add i believe is the product of all this unnatural food in the supermarkets and in general life. Macdonalds lol dont even go there, There food is certified fake i feel like ive recieved cancer after ive eating it its ridiculous how bad that food is. Supersize me will clear the air for me there
]

So, So many errors in that. It really is too far gone to even bother engaging in.

Mr_love_monkey 06-03-2008 15:40

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Personally I think it's all the fault of the 6 foot lizards that are secretly running the world.

Osem 06-03-2008 15:46

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Originally Posted by Mr_love_monkey (Post 34501430)
Personally I think it's all the fault of the 6 foot lizards that are secretly running the world.

I knew you were really David Icke :D

piggy 06-03-2008 16:07

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Quote:

Originally Posted by THESHAOLIN1 (Post 34501129)
lol counterfit coorporation items especially pharmaceutracal are not a worry, them products are bad enough on there own.

Condoms in africa had aids on them anyway to help spread the infection part of the population control, Along with guns placed in poverty stricken areas of london, nottz and many other areas (yes most organised gangs still exist because there funded by intelligence agencies) and controlling the telephone tower radio waves to make us anxious n to manipulate our emotions. Obviously this informations debatable but reading some open minded books NOT written by authority and taking the truth as authority rather than the authority as truth will soon show to you the reality.

please check your medication it could be fake, if its not show the doctor this post and he might be able to help you.:erm:

Osem 06-03-2008 17:05

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Originally Posted by piggy (Post 34501449)
please check your medication it could be fake, if its not show the doctor this post and he might be able to help you.:erm:

Hmmm....... I'm not sure there's much anyone can do about this level of delusion :D

THESHAOLIN1 06-03-2008 20:21

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Originally Posted by piggy (Post 34501449)
please check your medication it could be fake, if its not show the doctor this post and he might be able to help you.:erm:

keep poppin pills kuzzy, i dont touch none of that man made crap, give me the herb that grows naturally in afganistan u can stick to that **** that will lead to your untimely death of a cancer form.

Xaccers 06-03-2008 23:38

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Originally Posted by THESHAOLIN1 (Post 34501732)
keep poppin pills kuzzy, i dont touch none of that man made crap, give me the herb that grows naturally in afganistan u can stick to that **** that will lead to your untimely death of a cancer form.

Ah, that would explain things.
Marijuana has been shown to exacerbate paranoia, I know, I've seen it first hand.
As for cancer, you're more likely to contract cancer from smoking Marijuana than tobacco alone.
My gut feeling (simply because the irony of your previous statement about man made crap) is that you smoke cannabis resin.

Damien 06-03-2008 23:47

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Quote:

Originally Posted by THESHAOLIN1 (Post 34501732)
keep poppin pills kuzzy, i dont touch none of that man made crap, give me the herb that grows naturally in afganistan u can stick to that **** that will lead to your untimely death of a cancer form.

Could you answer some of the points I made in my post, mostly the lies in terrorstorm? You asked me to go in depth so I gave you an example :)

THESHAOLIN1 07-03-2008 02:41

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Originally Posted by Xaccers (Post 34501889)
Ah, that would explain things.
Marijuana has been shown to exacerbate paranoia, I know, I've seen it first hand.
As for cancer, you're more likely to contract cancer from smoking Marijuana than tobacco alone.
My gut feeling (simply because the irony of your previous statement about man made crap) is that you smoke cannabis resin.

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guess thats why bob marley, john lennon, Tupac, martin luther king, malcolm x and now Muhammad alfayed all have spent time exposing this truth that i speak of. Most of them except alfayed spent there whole life exposing it.

the only people, who get paranoid from smoking weed are people who have a weak mentality. Im not scared of anyone or anything. As for what i know i knew it way before i touched weed. Im musically involved with hundreds of people on the same wavelength of me from backgrounds all over the world. People who have lived a much more outthere life than im sure yourself.

Xaccers 07-03-2008 04:00

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Originally Posted by THESHAOLIN1 (Post 34501973)
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guess thats why bob marley, john lennon, Tupac, martin luther king, malcolm x and now Muhammad alfayed all have spent time exposing this truth that i speak of. Most of them except alfayed spent there whole life exposing it.

the only people, who get paranoid from smoking weed are people who have a weak mentality. Im not scared of anyone or anything. As for what i know i knew it way before i touched weed. Im musically involved with hundreds of people on the same wavelength of me from backgrounds all over the world. People who have lived a much more outthere life than im sure yourself.

Perhaps it would be an idea for you to "edumacate" yourself and look up the definition of "exacerbate"
Then you may be able to respond to my post in a logical and relevant manner.
Meanwhile, as I know what exacerbate means, I'll just bask in the irony of what you have written.

Mr_love_monkey 07-03-2008 07:57

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Originally Posted by THESHAOLIN1 (Post 34501973)
Im musically involved with hundreds of people on the same wavelength of me from backgrounds all over the world.

Cool! - you like the birdy song too?

I don't drink water anymore either, because it's full of Parepin

Maggy 07-03-2008 14:23

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Originally Posted by THESHAOLIN1 (Post 34501973)

guess thats why bob marley, john lennon, Tupac, martin luther king, malcolm x and now Muhammad alfayed all have spent time exposing this truth that i speak of. Most of them except alfayed spent there whole life exposing it.

And what truth would that be precisely.All the same truth?That all men are equal?I don't recall the last gentleman standing up for that particular one.If anything he's as much of a fantasist as you are as his last performance proved at a certain inquest and at the interview afterwards.He produced no proof either to back up his assertions either.Just as you are repeatedly doing all over the forums.

Frankly you make no sense at all which leads me to believe that Xaccers
has hit it right on the nail.


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