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Zee 16-02-2008 11:11

Head south if you want a better life
 
A lot of this is quite true, i've been up north many times and its depressing and boring.

http://money.uk.msn.com/mortgages/mo...mentid=7506833

bopdude 16-02-2008 11:21

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Originally Posted by Zee (Post 34490202)
A lot of this is quite true, i've been up north many times and its depressing and boring.

http://money.uk.msn.com/mortgages/mo...mentid=7506833

What a load of dogs danglies, you seem to be very ignorant if you think that we are depressing and boring, we have some of the best scenery in the country IMO, a lot of the comments in that link talk complete tosh, so many that I can't be arsed to list them.

dilli-theclaw 16-02-2008 11:23

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Indeed.

papa smurf 16-02-2008 11:24

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Originally Posted by Zee (Post 34490202)
A lot of this is quite true, i've been up north many times and its depressing and boring.

http://money.uk.msn.com/mortgages/mo...mentid=7506833

can i have your exact gps coordinates so i can program the sothern softie seeking misile ;)

WHISTLED 16-02-2008 11:34

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The article merges the benifits of different places down South? So South is best because Cornwall has great weather and you can benifit from Londons cafe culture? Well argued that.

I like it where I live because I can see pick the beautiful scottish heather in the spring and they do a great curry in Birmingham.

jkat 16-02-2008 11:36

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Originally Posted by Zee (Post 34490202)
A lot of this is quite true, i've been up north many times and its depressing and boring.

http://money.uk.msn.com/mortgages/mo...mentid=7506833

yes its crap in iceland!

papa smurf 16-02-2008 11:39

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Originally Posted by jkat (Post 34490219)
yes its crap in iceland!

try farmfoods its much better

WHISTLED 16-02-2008 11:45

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try farmfoods its much better
Thats why dads go there

Sirius 16-02-2008 11:57

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Originally Posted by Zee (Post 34490202)
A lot of this is quite true, I've been up north many times and its depressing and boring.

http://money.uk.msn.com/mortgages/mo...mentid=7506833

Looks like the southern softies need a pick me up again. This happens every time they feel unloved :LOL:

Hugh 16-02-2008 12:59

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imho, the quality of life is better "oop north", just as it is in areas like the New Forest, Cornwall, Canterbury - just saying "North" and "South" is (again, imho) too generalised.

They should be comparing quality of life in between cities and country areas, not above and below an arbitrary line drawn across the country.

btw, lager tops is just another name for shandy.

joglynne 16-02-2008 13:01

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Hey you lot. Stop telling the soft southerners that it's great up North.

Having them believe in the myth that it always rains in Manchester, we all live in dank back to back terraces and go to work at the mill in clogs, keeps them out of our hair.

If they realised the true state of the UK above the Watford Gap then they might start invading us..:D

fireman328 16-02-2008 13:31

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Originally Posted by joglynne (Post 34490250)
Hey you lot. Stop telling the soft southerners that it's great up North.

Having them believe in the myth that it always rains in Manchester, we all live in dank back to back terraces and go to work at the mill in clogs, keeps them out of our hair.

If they realised the true state of the UK above the Watford Gap then they might start invading us..:D

I am sad to say that my move to Surrey from Oldham in the nineties
was the best move I ever made.

Zee 16-02-2008 13:33

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oooo... lol

you don't need to take it to heart when i say that, its just my opinion.
I live in London, there is so much to do here and when i go up north, Liverpool, Newcastle, Birmingham, Hatfield etc... i feel so depressed and bored i just wanna get on a train back to London.

BBKing 16-02-2008 14:00

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can i have your exact gps coordinates so i can program the sothern softie seeking misile
Is that the one that refuses to go south of Watford because 'it's too hot, and anyway the beer tastes like horse p**s'?

papa smurf 16-02-2008 14:24

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Originally Posted by BBKing (Post 34490277)
Is that the one that refuses to go south of Watford because 'it's too hot, and anyway the beer tastes like horse p**s'?

you seem to have an above average knowlege of this device:D

jkat 16-02-2008 14:26

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Originally Posted by Zee (Post 34490267)
oooo... lol

you don't need to take it to heart when i say that, its just my opinion.
I live in London, there is so much to do here and when i go up north, Liverpool, Newcastle, Birmingham, Hatfield etc... i feel so depressed and bored i just wanna get on a train back to London.

are you still bored zee?:D

papa smurf 16-02-2008 14:39

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one of the good things about up north is the house prices ,i can buy an entire housing estate here for the price of a london bedsit, and we have proper beer [we get it from germany]:D:D:D

iglu 16-02-2008 14:39

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Anything between the Watford gap and Scotland is depressing.

I went Leicester the other day, it only has 4 semi-decent restaurants. Liverpool the European city of culture, :sick: was such a mess a couple of months ago, still looking for a decent meal over there. I could go on and on...

Hugh 16-02-2008 14:42

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Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 34490301)
one of the good things about up north is the house prices ,i can buy an entire housing estate here for the price of a london bedsit, and we have proper beer [we get it from germany]:D:D:D

Good luck on my estate - 2 bed flat is 160k, 4 bed detached 450k, 4 bed with larger garden (that's the green area at the front and back of your house) is £550k; you must have very expensive bedsits (pity no one can afford to live in them) ;)

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Originally Posted by iglu (Post 34490302)
Anything between the Watford gap and Scotland is depressing.

I went Leicester the other day, it only has 4 semi-decent restaurants. Liverpool the European city of culture, :sick: was such a mess a couple of months ago, still looking for a decent meal over there. I could go on and on...

And in London, of course, the streets are paved with gold, and there are no less than salubrious areas ;)

papa smurf 16-02-2008 14:45

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[QUOTE=foreverwar;34490306]Good luck on my estate - 2 bed flat is 160k, 4 bed detached 450k, 4 bed with larger garden (that's the green area at the front and back of your house) is £550k; you must have very expensive bedsits (pity no one can afford to live in them) ;)

i was thinking 2 up 2 down comunial loo and in walking distance of pitt[ with window box]

iglu 16-02-2008 15:02

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Originally Posted by foreverwar (Post 34490306)
Good luck on my estate

Not keen in estates either....

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Originally Posted by foreverwar (Post 34490306)
And in London, of course, the streets are paved with gold, and there are no less than salubrious areas ;)

I want to have lots of choices for lunch, even more choices for dinner, plenty of jazz clubs to go to etc etc. Central London has plethora of all of that!

I am impressed with your vocabulary, I had to look up "salubrious".

Maggy 16-02-2008 15:40

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If it was warmer up north this southerner would be joining her northern living relatives.

I'm at present on my 9th sunny day in a row.:)

WHISTLED 16-02-2008 16:20

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I'm at present on my 9th sunny day in a row
Well i havent counted but its at least the same in Manchester..

joglynne 16-02-2008 16:28

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Originally Posted by WHISTLED (Post 34490337)
Well i havent counted but its at least the same in Manchester..

:erm:I've said it before. Will you please refrain from letting them know the true conditions in the North. It's raining in Manchester, has been for weeks, the only let up from the continual rain is when it snows...6ft drifts I had to battle through last night on my way to the communal bath house.;)

Cobbydaler 16-02-2008 16:31

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And we've just had an outbreak of Typhoid...

WHISTLED 16-02-2008 16:31

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Oh yeah - Ive been dodging the rain and bulletts all morning

Maggy 16-02-2008 16:39

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Actually I do know what the North is really like.I lived for 4 years in Co Durham just outside Darlington so I know how beautiful it is.I just had soooo much trouble with the vile cold winters.I also love Wales but those freezing winters and deep snows put me right off.Those of you who can survive them are very lucky people to live in some of the most wonderful places in Britain.

Trouble is I was born so much further south of where I am at present that I find winter in the UK the pits..Love the country,the people,the democracy but hate the weather.

joglynne 16-02-2008 17:00

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coggy, I hereby dub you as a honorary Northerner. :D You may pick up your ceremonial cloth cap next time you are in the area.

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dilli-theclaw 16-02-2008 17:03

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I used to live in Staindrop - then Saltburn By The Sea :)

Cobbydaler 16-02-2008 17:14

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Originally Posted by joglynne (Post 34490364)
coggy, I hereby dub you as a honorary Northerner. :D You may pick up your ceremonial cloth cap next time you are in the area.

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Have you got a spare whippet as well? :D

joglynne 16-02-2008 17:17

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Originally Posted by Jefferson T (Post 34490366)
I used to live in Staindrop - then Saltburn By The Sea :)

Two nice examples of places best hidden from the soft southerners. I remember going to the Saltburn Folk Festival and having a grand time. :D

Hugh 16-02-2008 17:35

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Originally Posted by iglu (Post 34490313)
Not keen in estates either....

<my bad> the estate in the burbs consists of approx 40 buildings, a mix of detached houses and 4 buildings (which look like detached houses) each of which has 4x2 bed flats. We are 20 mins by bus/car from Leeds City Centre (including the main rail station), 15 minutes from Leeds Bradford Airport, and 5 minutes from the countryside (10 mins from Otley Chevin, which is beautiful for walking the dog). Within 1/2 a mile is a 12th Century Norman Church (where we worship) - it's grim up north, tha knows.

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Originally Posted by iglu (Post 34490313)
I want to have lots of choices for lunch, even more choices for dinner, plenty of jazz clubs to go to etc etc. Central London has plethora of all of that!

I am impressed with your vocabulary, I had to look up "salubrious".

erm, Leeds City Centre has quite a few restaurants, too; Sugarvine lists nearly 200 in the city centre alone (these are all probably within a 15-20 minute walk from the railway station). ;)

But that's all about the material things - I just like the quality of life up here.

alferret 16-02-2008 17:38

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I am originally from Essex a stones throw from lakeside and the QE2 bridge.
Living there was almost impossible due to the many senseless idiots that roamed the streets, shopped at lakeside or just those generally that continued to breathe.
Driving anywhere was a pain, doing anything was a pain so I headed north in 1998 (only got as far as Nottingham) and parked my butt there, the people are more friendly, the cost of living is cheaper and everything and everyone has a more relaxed attitude.
Ended up in Mansfield 2005 where I'm happy and I would never move back south, anywhere south. Long live the Midlands :tu:
Still learning the lingo though ;) and after 10 years I still got my lovable Essex accent :D

Cobbydaler 16-02-2008 18:14

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Can tell you're an Essex boy from your sig... ;)

ginge51 16-02-2008 19:52

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Originally Posted by Zee (Post 34490202)
A lot of this is quite true, i've been up north many times and its depressing and boring.

http://money.uk.msn.com/mortgages/mo...mentid=7506833

Where are you from?
I bet you're a cockney arn't you??

Damien 16-02-2008 20:06

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Don't venture up North much, I always have the impression of a a much more quieter place and nice scenery, I also think of the deserted community's that were destroyed during the 80's in places such as Liverpool and Manchester. Not sure how true to life that is

WHISTLED 16-02-2008 20:32

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destroyed during the 80's in places such as Liverpool and Manchester
The 80's made Manchester, not reall sure what your talking about.

Hugh 16-02-2008 20:35

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Originally Posted by Damien (Post 34490447)
Don't venture up North much, I always have the impression of a a much more quieter place and nice scenery, I also think of the deserted community's that were destroyed during the 80's in places such as Liverpool and Manchester. Not sure how true to life that is

It's about as true to life as Ashes to Ashes is a valid representation of London life in the early 80's ;)

Cobbydaler 16-02-2008 20:36

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He's talking about the great Jam Butty wars in Liverpool when in a final surge of tattifilariousness Doddy & The Diddy Men annihilated popular culture as we know it... :erm:

Hugh 16-02-2008 20:49

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I thought the North was best represented by section of Monty Python's "Meaning of Life" film called "The Miracle of Birth: Part 2: The Third World"
http://www.mwscomp.com/movies/mol/inlines/i-2_spm2.jpg

Or as they so succintly put it in one of their sketches
"FIRST YORKSHIREMAN: Aye, very passable, that, very passable bit of risotto.
SECOND YORKSHIREMAN: Nothing like a good glass of Château de Chasselas, eh, Josiah?
THIRD YORKSHIREMAN: You're right there, Obadiah.
FOURTH YORKSHIREMAN: Who'd have thought thirty year ago we'd all be sittin' here drinking Château de Chasselas, eh?
FIRST YORKSHIREMAN: In them days we was glad to have the price of a cup o' tea.
SECOND YORKSHIREMAN: A cup o' cold tea.
FOURTH YORKSHIREMAN: Without milk or sugar.
THIRD YORKSHIREMAN: Or tea. "

Must go - the whippet's escaped, and is in next door's black pudding patch.

Where's my bluddy flat cap? ;)

edit:
Thought you might like this picture from my work at a Northern Uni - we just upgraded the Server Room.

BBKing 17-02-2008 00:33

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The 80's made Manchester, not reall sure what your talking about.
The 1780s?

scrotnig 17-02-2008 00:44

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I live in the North, was born in the North, and much of it, particularly the big cities, is a complete s***tehole.

Particularly Manchester, where I live. If I could get out of this utter Godforsaken, filthy crime ridden hole I would do so tomorrow.

Vlad_Dracul 17-02-2008 05:33

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It depends what you mean by a better life.

Better life, to many people,seems to mean better shops,better restaurants etc. Whats so good about that?

The problem with many people today is that they have lost focus,are caught up in materialism and do not really appreciate what quality of life is.

To me quality of life is;

Good health

Some space in which to breathe and to appreciate the beauty of our planet

Good company i.e good conversation with like minded people and some kind of community spirit

Low crime rate

Clean environment




Now then, getting back to the debate, whilst there are many parts of the UK which have the above qualities in varying amounts, one often has to be rather wealthy to have it all and live in a really nice part of the UK.

For the majority of ordinary people in the UK,they are corralled in concrete jungles surrounded by commerce,crime filth and degradation.

In this respect, it matters not whether you are north, south ,east or west.

In the UK the minority prosper, in other parts of the world a greater proportion of the population has access to a better quality of life, and i dont mean Harvey Nicks.

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Originally Posted by alferret (Post 34490387)
I am originally from Essex a stones throw from lakeside and the QE2 bridge.
Living there was almost impossible due to the many senseless idiots that roamed the streets, shopped at lakeside or just those generally that continued to breathe.
Driving anywhere was a pain, doing anything was a pain so I headed north in 1998 (only got as far as Nottingham) and parked my butt there, the people are more friendly, the cost of living is cheaper and everything and everyone has a more relaxed attitude.
Ended up in Mansfield 2005 where I'm happy and I would never move back south, anywhere south. Long live the Midlands :tu:
Still learning the lingo though ;) and after 10 years I still got my lovable Essex accent :D

Can you get duck n chips in Mansfield?

Fingy 17-02-2008 07:38

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Originally Posted by WHISTLED (Post 34490347)
Oh yeah - Ive been dodging the rain and bulletts all morning

Is that not meant to be me? ;)

papa smurf 17-02-2008 08:08

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Originally Posted by scrotnig (Post 34490582)
I live in the North, was born in the North, and much of it, particularly the big cities, is a complete s***tehole.

Particularly Manchester, where I live. If I could get out of this utter Godforsaken, filthy crime ridden hole I would do so tomorrow.

i'm guessing you dont work for the manchester tourist board ;)

Hugh 17-02-2008 09:23

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Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 34490610)
i'm guessing you dont work for the manchester tourist board ;)

Nah, probably the Liverpool tourist board :D

Osem 17-02-2008 10:26

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North v. south, Man Utd v. Chelsea, Birmingham v. London ... everyone's entitled to their opinion and mine is that life's far too short to get all worked up about such things. Which is better is purely a subjective argument - I'm just glad that the UK is made up of different regions each of which adds something valuable to the mix we all call home.

Hugh 17-02-2008 11:01

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Definitely

LemonyBrainAid 17-02-2008 11:53

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I moved from the Wirral to Surrey in '99, very much against my will... I wouldn't have a problem moving back up to be honest, I don't think things are much different between here and there anyways..

iglu 17-02-2008 13:24

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Originally Posted by LemonyBrainAid (Post 34490682)
I moved from the Wirral to Surrey in '99, very much against my will... I wouldn't have a problem moving back up to be honest, I don't think things are much different between here and there anyways..


Surrey? :confused:

Host name: 212.227.92.125
IP address: 212.227.92.125
Location: Karlsruhe, GERMANY ;)

Hugh 17-02-2008 15:53

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He might be fibbing about the IP address

iglu 17-02-2008 16:27

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Originally Posted by foreverwar (Post 34490800)
He might be fibbing about the IP address

S\he is a Woking person. I was just curious about the sauerkraut ip address ....map

xpod 17-02-2008 16:58

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I moved from the Wirral to Surrey in '99, very much against my will
Like poor Willy Wallace himself i was dragged,screaming & kicking down to London in 99........fae just a wee bit further North of course:)
Unlike my poor compatriot though ave no quite went to pieces just yet.

See,now theres the answer for anyone here who cant stop whining aboot the North,just head that wee bit further North in future;)

In all seriousness though,AS long as you & yours are happy & healthy then the rest is just a bonus,regardless of just where you are.


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