V+ to be installed tomorrow
 

Hi all,

Just thought I'd say, I have now (at last) opted for the VIP pack so am getting a shiny new V+ box and the old box moved upstairs.

I've bought a component cable in preperation for the install, as my TV doesn' tahve HDMI :-( so now looking forward to getting a decent picture upstairs, and to be able to record Eastenders so that the missus can watch that during the day and I don't have to put up with watching it....

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You should consider getting an hd tv asap. having the box connected with the hdmi cable makes a significant difference to ALL channels.

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Well it is an HD Compatible TV (1080i) but doesn't have an HDMI connection, only component

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I maybe wrong but as I understand it, a 1080i compatible TV will receive the 1080i signal but will display as 480p. You will get a better picture but it wont be HD. Again, I may be wrong but that is how I understand it. A 720p HDMI connection gives me the best results for my TV though, Planet Earth in HD looks amazing.

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Also you will find some programmes may not work over component, especially in the future. This is because of copy protection known as HDCP.
HDCP only works over HDMI.

At the moment this may only effect PPV content..you will have to investigate.

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Think about what you just wrote there. Do you realise how ludicrous that suggestion is.

Getting a V+ box requires a tv upgrade to get a decent picture?

Dear oh dear, glad I stuck to 6/7 year old Tivo unit that can store 990 hours of programs, d/l to my pc, access over the internet and oh yes, KEEP MY ORIGINAL TELLY.

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There are lots of customers out there who have V+ and dont have a flatscreen tv:)

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considering theres only 1 HD channel at moment ned,thats not a great surprise:D

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So true :)

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unless the V+ can only output hd using hdmi, your wrong

a 1080i compat tv, "should" output a 1080i, and 720p

1080p can also be achieved over component, only thing that cant be transmitted over component are upscale (because this is only supported using a digital connection as governed by the dvd consortium)

the only reason people belive that component cant do hd signals is down to sony-bs,

whilst a hdmi cable would be better based on experience of component looking washed out compaired to hdmi, but thats the only reason i say that

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Think you might have got me wrong there. Component does output HD resolutions, which is how my 360 manages 720p. I never suggested it didn't. The point I was making is generally TV's without HDMI can accept HD resolutions but downscales them to fit either an SD screen or a 720p screen depending on the TV.

The term '1080i Compatible' is massively misleading in my opinion, I had an RP TV that was supposed to be 1080i compatible but could never display a full 1080i image.

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Oh well time has arrived for my install (between 13:00 --> 18:00 ) hope the engineer turns up :-)

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Perhaps you can explain what you mean. The OP is getting the vip package which includes the V+ box and when i changed to this package it did improve the quality on other channels as well as give hd of course on hd content etc.
Thats why i suggested investing in an hd tv would be a good idea.

So where is the problem?
Ive done it so why cant he if he chooses to?

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I don't think the missus would allow me to get another TV when we bought this plasma HD compatible TV about a year and a half ago it cost nearly £2K .... Very depressing that it doesn't have HDMI but for now I will have to live with component....

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How did your install go?

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It's going on now... Engineer has told my wife they are not allowed to put my Component cable into the V+ box, as they are not allowed to!!!!! So I willl have to do it when I get home... Do I have to do anything to the V+ box to tell it to use component? Do I pull out the SCART cable (I assume they will connect it this way)

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I am sure you have worked it out by now, but just in case......

Yes in menu you will need to change connection type to Component. You have an SD plasma screen, many of the better makes do an excellent job of scaling the signal. I have personaly found that a good quality SD plasma with component connections, does an excellent job if you set V+ box to output Component 720 Wide. This signal will then be converted to 480 by your plasma scaler. You may want to play around to get your best settings, I have tried it with several Panasonics and have always found 720 Wide to be the best.

You do not need your scart still in there. You will need to sort your audio though as unlike HDMI, Component does not carry audio.

Abs

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Well all sorted, I have used 1080 Wide and that seems to work... However what I can't seem to do is record anything on my DVD / Hard disk recorder. It's not a big deal as I can use the V+ recording, I just wondered what I was doing wrong. I connected my DVD recorder to the V+ box via SCART and then from the V+ box to the TV using SCART and component as this seemed to be the only way to display DVD output. But when I flick over to AV1 on the TV I see nothing.

With regards to the install a couple of things went wrong

1) Samsung box they moved from downstairs to upstairs wasn't paired to the card and therefore I only got default freeview channels upstairs. Phoned them up, all sorted.

2) One of my emial addresses has been deleted... It used to be the one that was used for my account, no idea why it has been deleted, would any Virgin employees on here be able to re-create it?

Thanksl

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Unfortunately, the V+ box will only output one type of signal at a time. Therefore if you are using HDMI or component, the scart will be disabled and cannot be used to directly record to your DVD/HDD recorder. You can however use scart connection (the VCR one) to copy anything you have on your V+ hard drive to your DVD/HDD. It is only really for backing up once your V+ hard drive gets more full up.

Sorry cannot help with Virgin media stuff as do not work there.

Abs

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Thanks for that, no worried I will just connect my DVD player directly to the TV for output then....

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Can anyone else help with the email issue?