Three convicted of Newlove murder
 

Nice to see that Murder sentences have been given. However how long before some idiot gets involved and gets them out after serving only months like happened only last week .

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/m...de/7176471.stm

http://www.bbc.co.uk/mediaselector/c...&nbram=1&asb=1

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One issue highlighted over this case is raising the drinking age to 21, as one of the murderers had reportedly drank 5 bottles of cider before the incident with Mr Newlove - Will raising the age limit solve anything? I think not - the real issue is social order, its completely out of focus in Britain.

But for Newlove this was an horrible and meaningless violent crime which resulted in a loss of life and robbed a family of a loving husband and dad.

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They are **** and represent all that Britain has become. A society which celebrates chav culture and revels in disorder,crime and drunkeness. I would have them executed despite their ages. They will probably never amount to much and will kill or do harm again.

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I have changed my mind somewhat on the death sentence. Better to put them in a rat infested **** hole with the minimum food to keep them alive and for the rest of there lives don't let them speak to a single person or have contact with other human beings in anyway. Lets see what the anti death sentence people think of that. Still to hard on them you can bet.

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Linked in with the Police Inspector who was given bail I wonder what Swellings previous was and what he was on bail for. I'm willing to bet there is quite a bit of violence involved yet he was still out on bail.

Still in places where people can refuse to go to court in case they are given a lower quality cell, refuse to move prisons as where they are going doesn't have enough plugs for their TV/DVD player or get bail after being found guilty of an unprovoked racist attack nothing surprises me anymore. Even people released early from prison get bail if they are accused of another crime.

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On the local BBC News, it said that he was released the same day for beating up another bloke in a similar incident.

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You can bet their are those already looking at an appeal to get these **** bags out of jail.

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A very sad and tragic case. Anyone who commits a crime while on bail should have 5 years added to their sentences. That may focus a few minds and if it doesn't well at least the *******s involved will be out of harms way.

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Simple solution for all this, kill them. An eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth. This country is on it's backside and it's the human rights idiots who have sent it that way.

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Well it seems Adam Swellings was on bail for... assaulting someone who asked him to stop hanging around the front of his house.

Personally once bail is breached once I think it should be off-limits until you don't have any more court cases/probation/early release licences hanging over you.

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The root of the problem here is young mothers and teenage pregnancies. Now, i'm not saying every teenage pregnancy is a bad thing, my sister had a child when she was a teenager, albeit toward the end of the teenage years(19) and that turned out fine, but these kids having kids at 14-16...i mean come on, its rediculous! What can you know about life and bringing up kids at that age?? The products of the teenage pregnancies of the early nineties are now the uneducated chav's of today. And when they either get pregnant or get some young one pregnant then in 17 years time the cycle continues. Young mother + no father around (Probably because he's a ******* with no cash and is afraid of fatherhood) = 90% chance of bad upbringing. Christ , when i was 14 i was playing footie with my friends and building camps in the local woods, not going out drinking and having sex. As for sentencing for these chumps, i'm all for labour camps all the way. Work for food, undergo 3 hours a day social education followed by 9 hours hard labour. 2-year stints for minor crimes like theft/burglary, longer for harsher crimes like GBH. The last point i'll make is a bit weird, personally i believe that if someone is causing you bother you should be able to deal with them physically, as in give them a good hiding (not to the extent of GBH, however), too many people get away with too much as theres no fear in them of retaliation.

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I see we've had a cull of posts, what happend to freedom of speech?

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Doesn't apply in private.

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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/7238496.stm

I wonder if they're smirking now?

If only life meant life!!

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Not enough. **** like them should be terminated.

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Could be out in 17, 15 and 12 years respectively.

That's how much value our legal system puts on a mans life.

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they are the dregs of society and only fit for one place,a hole in the ground,all the do gooders and human rights are a total pain in the a... and they are a lot to blame for the way things are going.:mad:

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How much would a length of rope cost compared with the cost to the tax payer for the next 17 years. However if we cannot terminate them.Then they should be put in a cell with no windows, Just enough food to keep them alive and give them NO human contact till the day they die or request to die.

**** like them do not deserve to be treated Humanly.

---------- Post added at 18:41 ---------- Previous post was at 18:40 ----------

Exactly what i was thinking. :tu:


However you can bet even as i type this someone will be looking at getting them out on appeal.

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To be honest, i agree with you however, when they say life, thats what they take. I mean i dont mean to echo the shawshank redemption here, but when they say life, thats what they take ,at least the part that counts. A lad who was in my year at my school murdered one of his friends mum's and got life, 17.5 years no parole. when he gets out he'll be 38. he was 21 convicted. now thats the best part of his life gone. most of us will be married with kids by that age. however, i am for the death penalty. an eye for an eye. so the judgement still falls short to me, i merely present the alternate arguement. Life sentence in our day and age is no cake walk.

(P.S i have had a few beers when writing this, so it may not be grammatically all there, but i hope my morals are clear and message gets across.)

Cheers

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Hopefully they will get a good slap in prison. Cons have strange values and take a dislike to certain crimes, usually involving undue force by weak bullies against someone who is "straight".

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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/7320210.stm

Lets hope he gets his sentence extended. However going on the standard of judges in this country i have a feeling it will be reduced by a weak appeal judge. :(

We can only hope he has it extended.

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yes stick another 10 years on then we might be closer to justice

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Well they got the appeal granted ....
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/7415254.stm

And if they get sentence reduced, probably be looking for compo for the stress due to excessive sentencing

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I bet there'll be more effort and support for these two thugs than there will ever be for the Newlove famaily! The *******s will be out sooner and killing again. because of the interfering do-gooders! :td:

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Your not wrong there mate, they'll get all the help they need plus a social worker while on the inside, they'll have all the luxuries the prison service is allowed to give them like TV's, Playstations, Sky Tv etc etc. Good people like Gary Newlove worked hard for things like the above ^^^ but these *******s get it for nothing.