Should Peter Hain resign?
 

In light of his "forgetting" to declare £103,000 of donations / funding do you think Peter Hain should resign?

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Yes, no question...

A man with a brain the size of a planet 'forgetting'? :rolleyes:

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Normally I would say no, just let bthem get on with it but hearing the circumstances on last nights news I think he should go.

My understanding is he ran up large debts in his PM bid and when he failed he quickly had to try and get donations for a campaign he had already lost. There were also some doubts over a private 'think tank' which may be used to manage discreet conations

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Conations?

He's a secret Conehead? :shocked:

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Yep, he really screwed it up. Normally I would say No, give the benefit of the doubt and no real harm was done. But this is really dodgy

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I cant seem to write a single paragraph without making a typo, probably doesnt help having the lap top on my chest

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I say yes, not was he forgot, cover up job.

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No problem, just joking... He's still a devious bar attendant... ;)

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speaking as one of his constituents (sp?) yes!
Should have gone along time ago, unfortunately the people of Neath would vote for a Donkey if it was put forward on a labour ticket.:dozey:

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Mr A... too many options there?

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I was feeling particularly generous.

It's a close call.

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Can I just register my disgust at this defamation of this great ex-Liberal New Labour Kenyan South African Welsh (ex-Northern Ireland) Secretary of State for Work and Pensions.

Who amongst us hasn't "misplaced" £100k? I see the smear tactics of tree-hugging right-wingers like Mr Angry and BBKing here, spreading their Daily Mail reading slanders on this righteous defender of the South African/Welsh/Northern Irish/Workers and Pensioners.


Nah - Frakk it, just bin him.

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Humpf!

I'm still surprised in this day and age that anyone is actually surprised by politicians not turning out to be pillars of the community.:rolleyes:

Frankly anyone who WANTS to be a politician is suspicious enough.I'd rather have people who don't want the job doing the job..They might have some integrity even if they can't do the job and frankly the pig's poke the last government AND this one have done in running the country proves that even politicians can't do it any better.

I reckon Mr Angry for PM...unless of course he actually wants the job..;)

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Or in this case, a pillar of salt. Take him away!

He should be fighting wabid wild animals within a week.

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Hang on what were you expecting, honesty from a politician?

I've met him loads of times, I see him around all the time, seems like a nice enough person.

By the way there's a massive difference between a 'nice enough person' and 'honest politician'.

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No, i dont think he should resign. He should be fired and then put in prison. Preferably for life

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Tell that to the people of Blaenau Gwent.

Anyway, someone should resign and Mr. Hain appears to have been elected. I suspect a few people elsewhere in Parliament will be glad to see someone else get the bullet, but it shouldn't stop there.

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Also speaking as one of his constituents I totally agree with you. The people of Neath seem to only have one check box on our ballot papers. The problem is the opposition choices need to come up with something special to steal his votes and this has yet to happen.

He used to live near me and on a personal level he seems like a really nice chap. As far as this situation goes though if anything dodgy is proved then he should go. He does seem to have a solid background in the posts he has held in the Labour party, but I've always felt he has always had his sights set on the top job, and I feel he is punching a little above his weight.

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Ineptitude, corruption or both - all are reasons for resignation IMO.

New/Old/Nearly New/ReallyQuiteShabby Labour politicians seem to have acquired all the qualities of pigs feeding at a very well stocked trough.

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yes,along with the rest of the motley crew :D

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He has always looked and sounded sleazy to me.... now it seems we have proof... and yet he's still trying to wriggle out of it... and Gordo's his chum...

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Apparently Hain is due to make a statement about all this shortly :rolleyes:

Hmmmm...... I wonder if it will be full of excuses, apologies, yet more promises of prompt remedial action and a definition of the term 'taking full responsibility' that doesn't include resignation or indeed any meaningful penalty but involves staying put in a highly paid/privileged position.

Who actually votes for these people???

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..and part time Secretary of State for Wales...

Takes a lot of cash to keep that lot afloat, doesn't it?

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our MPs seem to suffer from selective amnesia, nothing new there , he's been caught out he should in my opinion be fired and prosecuted, theres no room for dishonesty in british politics:rolleyes:

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I voted, "Yes, absolutely!!".

Unfortunately...

Defiant Hain to 'get on with job'



Still... even if he did actually resign, he'd probably end up straight back in another Cabinet post six months later...

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I'm not sure he would - I don't think (unlike Blunkett or Mandelson) he enjoys the unqualified support and love of the Prime Minister, which led to their assorted comebacks. Neither is he particularly liked in the party. He's in the invidious position of being a left-winger in a senior Labour government position, and that's a death warrant usually.

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Its quite an unfair poll. I vote no.

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Troublemaker!

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Thank you 'Peter H' of London.

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Should that not be Peter H of Neath? I pass his house twice a week.

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That must play havoc with the piles.

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Brings a whole new meaning to the phrase "bricking oneself"

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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/7185087.stm

Now there's a surprise :rolleyes::rolleyes:

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My apologies, Russ, I was going by what his entry in the Register of Member's Interests says. Not sure this is a reliable source, on second thoughts:

He's probably got a 40 room mansion in Buckinghamshire he's too busy to tell us about.

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Well, if Presser could be too busy to remember to pay his council tax, should we let Hain have a bit of leeway?

Er no. Definitely not.

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Well I do at least have some sympathy for Prescott, I mean his excuse that he was too busy to be diligent is backed up by his vast contribution to this nation via the enormous list of personal achievements I've collated below:






































































































































:rolleyes:

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Not that we ever thought the Conservatives were clean....

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/7185622.stm

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My only surprise is that it's taken so long for this to surface but then from what I heard on the radio this morning the donation was declared to the electoral commission just not listed on his members interests for reasons which will become clear. Still not good though.

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The reasons were, from the article "Mr Cameron said the Conservatives had sought advice from Commons officials on whether to also declare the money to the members' register - and been effectively told they did not have to.
Mr Osborne is now seeking a ruling from the Commons standards committee on the matter."

And from the Sunday Mail story
"He said that Commons registrar Alda Barry told him last month that he did not need to name the seven donors. Mr Osborne said there were emails to back up his position.

But yesterday, after this newspaper obtained the donors' names, the Shadow Chancellor said that Ms Barry had now admitted she could have been wrong. 'I was told that my declarations were in order,' he said in a statement. 'Ms Barry has now told us that her initial advice may have been unclear.
'These donations are to the Conservative Party, they are openly declared and we have followed the rules as they were explained to us.
'All the donations over £5,000 have been declared to the Electoral Commission and are available for all to see on their website, as the law requires.' Ms Barry declined to comment last night. "

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Yes and if it's true then he has nothing to worry about.

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The question is, if he does resign, how long will it be until he's back?
2 weeks?
A month?

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Doubt he'll be back, Xac, for the reasons in this post:

http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/34469317-post27.html

Not enough friends in the party.

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:D just love the title to this news headline on yahoo

http://uk.news.yahoo.com/rtrs/200801...fa6b408_4.html

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Doesn't bear thinking about where the loot has been stashed ;)

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How do you forget about donations that amounted to over half your total fund for fighting the campaign you started to obtain a position. This is completely ridiculous and shouldn't even be up for debate the guy should go.

I am honestly staggered that after everything that has happened regarding funding that any politician let alone one that is supposed to be savvy could be so ignorant and if for no other reason he should go for that.

Gordon Brown is making yet another mistake in backing him in anyway shape or form and yet again manages to tell us a lot about him as a PM without doing bugger all.

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It's a very close call so far folks - with only 100% of vote participants suggesting he should resign.

Keep up the (democratic) good work.

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Things are hotting up...

He could face a police enquiry http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/7188461.stm

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Hmm, lamb to the slaughter then to show the government are really tough on such things, while hoping no one asks "If Hain was thrown to the police, why weren't the others?"

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Very true Xac.

Elsewhere, I liked this comment:

http://chickback.blogspot.com/2008/0...eter-hain.html

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Does this mean they will also re-investigate the bank robbery he was charged with in the 70's?

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so he did!