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Callumpy 09-01-2008 20:06

Cant Connect To NAS server, need help!
 
I cannot connect to my nas server with this PC, but i can with the other PC!

Any idea why anyone?

downquark1 09-01-2008 20:11

Re: Cant Connect To NAS server, need help!
 
Are you trying with the ip address or some network name? It's possible a firewall is in the way.

Raistlin 09-01-2008 20:12

Re: Cant Connect To NAS server, need help!
 
More information about the setup might help.....

Are you going through a router? What operating systems are the two machines running? Have you checked/changed the cables? Does the NAS require a username/password, if so have you checked that you have them right? What have you tried so far? Are you getting any error messages?

Wicked_and_Crazy 09-01-2008 20:16

Re: Cant Connect To NAS server, need help!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Raistlin (Post 34467449)
More information about the setup might help.....

You mean your not Gypsy Raistlin ;)

Callumpy 09-01-2008 20:37

Re: Cant Connect To NAS server, need help!
 
Here is my network diagram:
http://www.ratemynetworkdiagram.com/images/2498_1.JPG

I am using the desktop PC, my nas is not running a OS, My PC is XP, i can accesss the server on the other PC so its not cableing, the error message i get is This network path was not found, the connection cannot be restored!

Thats it!

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oh, and the NAS is the ATMT

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Look, ill prove it works, Link

that is my Server, but i cant get into it with this PC!

SOSAGES 09-01-2008 23:20

Re: Cant Connect To NAS server, need help!
 
try putting the NAS on the other side of that firewall (plug it into the wgr614)
see what happens

ps. when i was 13 girls were far more important than NAS connection issues ;)

Graham M 09-01-2008 23:47

Re: Cant Connect To NAS server, need help!
 
Yeah I would concur, the NAS is the wrong side of the Firewall

nffc 10-01-2008 00:12

Re: Cant Connect To NAS server, need help!
 
I don't see the need for the firewall anyway. I'd just put the modem into the router and connect the NAS to the router like everything else.

SOSAGES 10-01-2008 10:43

Re: Cant Connect To NAS server, need help!
 
indeed u have 3 hardware firewalls floating around thats overkill

LSainsbury 10-01-2008 12:16

Re: Cant Connect To NAS server, need help!
 
I think ATMT NAS devices have the ability to be accessed over the net, so it might be on the correct side - if it can and he's accessing that way...

southwell 10-01-2008 12:30

Re: Cant Connect To NAS server, need help!
 
Is the PC you can access it in the DMZ zone of the 614?

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Nice, you got banned from Digital Spy, good work lol.

LSainsbury 10-01-2008 12:42

Re: Cant Connect To NAS server, need help!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Callumpy (Post 34467452)
Look, ill prove it works, Link

...Yes and so can we. I think you may want to put some security on that.

I got access to your Green Day MP3 libary, your Habbo source files and everything on your NAS...

Digital Spy - oh yeah! LOL!

Now - where would a 13 year old keep his porn...

Perhaps you have a little way to go before you're a fully fledged IT Engineer! :monkey:

Graham M 10-01-2008 12:53

Re: Cant Connect To NAS server, need help!
 
LoL Callumpy's PC is made by Medion :p:

SOSAGES 10-01-2008 13:12

Re: Cant Connect To NAS server, need help!
 
u got to wonder how with 2 firewalls in the way u can get at his green day collection (downloaded from demonid)
i assume ur on a nice dsl line as the speed is nice !
put a username and password on the ftp fella.

Stuart 10-01-2008 13:25

Re: Cant Connect To NAS server, need help!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by southwell (Post 34467777)
Nice, you got banned from Digital Spy, good work lol.

Impressive.. I never realised the Mods did anything over there. Callumpy must have wound someone up massively.

Wicked_and_Crazy 10-01-2008 13:35

Re: Cant Connect To NAS server, need help!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SOSAGES (Post 34467719)
indeed u have 3 hardware firewalls floating around thats overkill

The words "Head, Wall, Banging, Brick" all spring to mind!

LSainsbury 10-01-2008 13:36

Re: Cant Connect To NAS server, need help!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Zeph (Post 34467795)
LoL Callumpy's PC is made by Medion :p:

Nice collection of cars! :)

Stuart 10-01-2008 13:43

Re: Cant Connect To NAS server, need help!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SOSAGES (Post 34467719)
indeed u have 3 hardware firewalls floating around thats overkill

Three firewalls, yet he doesn't put a password/user id on his NAS..

southwell 10-01-2008 13:48

Re: Cant Connect To NAS server, need help!
 
I would of thought putting pictures of yourself on there isn't a good idea either. :p:

Graham M 10-01-2008 13:55

Re: Cant Connect To NAS server, need help!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by southwell (Post 34467844)
I would of thought putting pictures of yourself on there isn't a good idea either. :p:

You can't see him though, there's a mop of hair in the way :)

Callumpy 10-01-2008 16:17

Re: Cant Connect To NAS server, need help!
 
Thanks everyone for looking at the stuff on my NAS server, lol.

Anyway, if i move the NAS on to the other side of the firewall i wont be able to access it ovet the internet. Also the firewall isnt over kill the the firewall in the DSL-G6142 and WGR614 are turned off!

And i dont have a mop on my haed :)

nffc 10-01-2008 17:15

Re: Cant Connect To NAS server, need help!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Stuart C (Post 34467817)
Impressive.. I never realised the Mods did anything over there. Callumpy must have wound someone up massively.

I thought that was for 48 hours. (And the mods do quite a bit over there. A lot of threads do get closed or end up "deleted" to the mods area.)

But then I suppose they have quite rigid T+Cs and users who break them will be banned.

danielf 10-01-2008 18:09

Re: Cant Connect To NAS server, need help!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Zeph (Post 34467850)
You can't see him though, there's a mop of hair in the way :)

LOL Joey Ramone lives :tu:

https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...2008/01/18.jpg

Callumpy 10-01-2008 18:10

Re: Cant Connect To NAS server, need help!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by danielf (Post 34468049)

Presisley, my hair isnt long!

danielf 10-01-2008 18:12

Re: Cant Connect To NAS server, need help!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Callumpy (Post 34468052)
Presisley, my hair isnt long!

No, but Joey in that pic has a few years on you, so you have time to catch up :)

LSainsbury 10-01-2008 19:59

Re: Cant Connect To NAS server, need help!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Callumpy (Post 34467960)

Anyway, if i move the NAS on to the other side of the firewall i wont be able to access it ovet the internet. Also the firewall isnt over kill the the firewall in the DSL-G6142 and WGR614 are turned off!

Welcome to the world of NATing.... Google it!!!

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You've still not secured your NAS drive...

SOSAGES 11-01-2008 09:23

Re: Cant Connect To NAS server, need help!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by LSainsbury (Post 34468082)

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You've still not secured your NAS drive...

^^

Stuart 11-01-2008 09:43

Re: Cant Connect To NAS server, need help!
 
Callumpy, if you are going to have your NAS accessible via the internet, I would recommend you secure it. You run the risk of someone discovering it, and using it as free storage.

This isn't too bad if what they store is legal, or just copyrighted, but what if it is something more serious, such as child porn? You can be held liable for anything stored on the drive.

If you are found with child porn on your drive, you run the risk of serious legal action.

LSainsbury 11-01-2008 09:59

Re: Cant Connect To NAS server, need help!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Stuart C (Post 34468454)
Callumpy, if you are going to have your NAS accessible via the internet, I would recommend you secure it. You run the risk of someone discovering it, and using it as free storage.

Actually - I did try a write operation but I was denied access, but I'm sure somebody with some basic hacking skills would find a way to do it.

And then a well placed executable, and it would be goodbye data and LAN...

southwell 11-01-2008 10:14

Re: Cant Connect To NAS server, need help!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by LSainsbury (Post 34468465)
Actually - I did try a write operation but I was denied access, but I'm sure somebody with some basic hacking skills would find a way to do it.

And then a well placed executable, and it would be goodbye data and LAN...

Thats not something i would admit to trying.

LSainsbury 11-01-2008 10:20

Re: Cant Connect To NAS server, need help!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by southwell (Post 34468482)
Thats not something i would admit to trying.

Why? All I did was a right-click, create folder to see what access privileges where given. Nothing else was done.

SOSAGES 11-01-2008 10:21

Re: Cant Connect To NAS server, need help!
 
dont do it yet i havnt got all the greenday albums!

southwell 11-01-2008 10:28

Re: Cant Connect To NAS server, need help!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by LSainsbury (Post 34468485)
Why? All I did was a right-click, create folder to see what access privileges where given. Nothing else was done.

Ah ok, i read it as something different, i blame it on my migrane ;)

LSainsbury 11-01-2008 12:29

Re: Cant Connect To NAS server, need help!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by southwell (Post 34468494)
Ah ok, i read it as something different, i blame it on my migrane ;)

No worries - I blame my cold for making me right-click, create folder! :p:

Hugh 11-01-2008 15:37

Re: Cant Connect To NAS server, need help!
 
It's still insecure - all the stuff on it is still downloadable (if you like that sort of music).....

LSainsbury 11-01-2008 15:42

Re: Cant Connect To NAS server, need help!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by foreverwar (Post 34468684)
It's still insecure - all the stuff on it is still downloadable (if you like that sort of music).....

FYI: I've PM'ed him...

Callumpy 11-01-2008 16:02

Re: Cant Connect To NAS server, need help!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SOSAGES (Post 34468486)
dont do it yet i havnt got all the greenday albums!

That is what they are there for!

I want it unsecured so that it can be a Download service for www.stealyourglory.tk

and make sure you get the sevenfold albums :)

SOSAGES 11-01-2008 16:23

Re: Cant Connect To NAS server, need help!
 
sadley this sort of thing isnt allowed so i suggest
A: you learn how to forward ports.
B: how to add user name/ passwords to your NAS
C: look at SSL as well.
D: Stop sharing music
E: Delete from my memory that very pink website you linked to :)

Hugh 11-01-2008 16:24

Re: Cant Connect To NAS server, need help!
 
Let's hope the copyright police don't catch you.......;)

Callumpy 11-01-2008 16:41

Re: Cant Connect To NAS server, need help!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SOSAGES (Post 34468711)
sadley this sort of thing isnt allowed so i suggest
A: you learn how to forward ports.
B: how to add user name/ passwords to your NAS
C: look at SSL as well.
D: Stop sharing music
E: Delete from my memory that very pink website you linked to :)

huh?

Mr_love_monkey 11-01-2008 17:23

Re: Cant Connect To NAS server, need help!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Callumpy (Post 34468720)
huh?

What you are doing is illegal and could land you in some trouble - you're not supposed to be sharing music online. I'd suggested removing it soon.

LSainsbury 11-01-2008 18:01

Re: Cant Connect To NAS server, need help!
 
what's the FACT URL again?

Oh Yeah....I remember....

http://www.fact-uk.org.uk/

Callumpy 12-01-2008 11:10

Re: Cant Connect To NAS server, need help!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr_love_monkey (Post 34468739)
What you are doing is illegal and could land you in some trouble - you're not supposed to be sharing music online. I'd suggested removing it soon.

Alright, ill remove the stuff off the website, but is it illegall to share our own music?

and also if i just get rid of the music links but leave the music in my server, is that illegal?

Oh, and also. What about the main reason i posted this thread?

LSainsbury 12-01-2008 11:12

Re: Cant Connect To NAS server, need help!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Callumpy (Post 34469128)
Oh, and also. What about the main reason i posted this thread?

Do you have any software firewalls that may be blocking?

Have you tried a net use command?

Callumpy 12-01-2008 11:51

Re: Cant Connect To NAS server, need help!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by LSainsbury (Post 34469131)
Do you have any software firewalls that may be blocking?

Have you tried a net use command?


no and no

LSainsbury 12-01-2008 12:20

Re: Cant Connect To NAS server, need help!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Callumpy (Post 34469145)
no and no

Well try a net use command and see what you get then!!! :mad:

Callumpy 12-01-2008 12:32

Re: Cant Connect To NAS server, need help!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by LSainsbury (Post 34469153)
Well try a net use command and see what you get then!!! :mad:

what do i write?

net use in cmd?

nffc 12-01-2008 13:34

Re: Cant Connect To NAS server, need help!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Callumpy (Post 34469128)
Alright, ill remove the stuff off the website, but is it illegall to share our own music?

Not if you have permission from the copyright holder (as they're your friends, I don't think that's a problem!) :D

Callumpy 12-01-2008 13:45

Re: Cant Connect To NAS server, need help!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by LSainsbury (Post 34469153)
Well try a net use command and see what you get then!!! :mad:

ohhhh, ive done net use and it says they are all unavaliable

LSainsbury 12-01-2008 17:23

Re: Cant Connect To NAS server, need help!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Callumpy (Post 34469181)
ohhhh, ive done net use and it says they are all unavaliable

What's unavailable? The shares you are trying to connect to??

Can you ping the IP and DNS name of the ATMT device

popper 12-01-2008 18:46

Re: Cant Connect To NAS server, need help!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Callumpy (Post 34467452)
Here is my network diagram:


I am using the desktop PC, my nas is not running a OS, My PC is XP,

i can accesss the server on the other PC so its not cableing,

the error message i get is This network path was not found, the connection cannot be restored!

Thats it!

oh, and the NAS is the ATMT

that is my Server, but i cant get into it with this PC!

right, so that 'can not be restored' implys you had a LAN connection to it at one point and you shared that working connection to a drive letter....

im going to assume your IP for the NAS box has now changed and so the share isnt pointing to the right IP now, does that make sense to you?.

your NAS does infact have an OS on it ,just not windows, thats why you can access the NAS mini web server, its running on that OS.


the box specs say this:
http://www.atmt.co.uk/netdrive_details.html
"
..
SPECIFICATIONS [img]Download Failed (1)[/img]
Supported Hard disk Format type FAT32[img]Download Failed (1)[/img]
Max. Folder No limitation in program [img]Download Failed (1)[/img]
Max. share folder samba share 32[img]Download Failed (1)[/img]
Max. Login 64 sessions in total [img]Download Failed (1)[/img]
Recommend login 8 sessions [img]Download Failed (1)[/img]
Network Protocol TCP/IP
File system SMB(CIFS) 、 FTP
Interface Port 1 RJ-45 Ethernet port [img]Download Failed (1)[/img]

Built-in O/S uC/OS[img]Download Failed (1)[/img]
CPU RDC8820[img]Download Failed (1)[/img]
Memory SDRAM 8MB NOR Flash 512KB [img]Download Failed (1)[/img]
Power supply Input : AC 100~240V Output : 2A [img]Download Failed (1)[/img]
Dimensions 198x122x61 mm[img]Download Failed (1)[/img] Weight 1150g (With HDD)

so you can use both CIFS for LAN net browsing, and assigning that drive letter to the NAS's IP ,and you can use FTP access, as your doing, for the WAN side that everyones using to look at your files.

you can also use the FTP server on your LAN side, did you try it with both the WAN IP and the local LAN IP direct?.

if you look in the NAS's manual, it tells you how to setup these shares etc,so it might be a case of just re-mapping that old drive map name to the new IP its using, assuming it is that problem.

the way to find out, is to use the ping command to see if you can talk to the devices on your LAN at a vey basic level .

o rperhaps you can even just use browse the network without using the mapped ip/name and see the NAS that way, if so, then just deleate the old maped letter and reassign the new ip to another letter.

so do a basic check and ping each LAN IP of all your PCs and the NAS.

its good to use fixed IPs in all your devices, or at least write each divices/PCs IP down so you have a map to ping and check for changed IPs, with so many routers/firewalls on there its getting a little complicated for a noob network.

the PC that can see the NAS , can that PC also ping the PC than cant see the NAS?.

if not, then the PC you cant ping has perhaps got an IP range thats different to the rest.

i notice the NAS can give out IPs, so do you only have one bit of kit (one of the routers)giving out IPs from its DHCPD server or are all of them ?, that can lead to a big mess so its important to know for sure.

http://www.atmt.co.uk/manuals/NETWOR...r%20Manual.pdf

btw,you can set a password for any of the NAS directorys you create, so i sugest you make a new passworded dir, and move any copyright files into that, so your not publicly sharing them, and you then need to give people the password access (if they have the right to use them)before they can get them from the public webside IP/FTP.

its perfectly fine and legal to share any non copyrighted files (freeware licenced)be they sound ,video or what ever(your friends/people make them and give them a freeware licence in the readme, or give you permission to share etc) and they can be in your non password protected dirs.

your key tool for solving this connection problem on the LAN side is the ping command, do you know how to use that yet?.

click start/run and type cmd in that cli box , inside that cmd shell/cli you can then use any shell command such as ping etc.

the default IP for the NAS in the manual says 169.254.0.1 and is an MS oddball IP , its unlikely your PCs and routers/firewall are using that 169.* range but im assuming now, one of your router DHCP IP servers are giving out a true 192.* IP range to all your kit.

Callumpy 12-01-2008 21:34

Re: Cant Connect To NAS server, need help!
 
right... its working now, whats happened was i turned my firewall progrmme off which activated Windows firewall and for some reason activated the IEE 802.11b adapter thingy, so i turned windows firewall off and deleted Zone Alarm and it worked then!

ive also got rid of my DCHP now and made everything static!

Thanks everyone for posting!

LSainsbury 12-01-2008 21:52

Re: Cant Connect To NAS server, need help!
 
Well done for fixing it. Just a little perseverance and some know-how gets you a long way. :tu:

nffc 12-01-2008 21:59

Re: Cant Connect To NAS server, need help!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by LSainsbury (Post 34469428)
Well done for fixing it. Just a little perseverance and some know-how gets you a long way. :tu:

He didn't fix it! He just did what someone else told him to do! ;)

LSainsbury 12-01-2008 22:13

Re: Cant Connect To NAS server, need help!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by nffc (Post 34469432)
He didn't fix it! He just did what someone else told him to do! ;)



Well - yeah - but ultimately he was the one at the keyboard and sorting it!

popper 12-01-2008 22:13

Re: Cant Connect To NAS server, need help!
 
i think thats a little unfair nffc, he did do the work after we gave him the potential answers, and he's learning fast being 13 and into the tech.

hes still got to work out what that 'IEE 802.11b adapter thingy' is....

its a wireless 11b ethernet card, thats 11Mbit max speed btw.


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