"Important" Xbox360 news
 

Source: http://www.computerandvideogames.com....php?id=178311

I love surprises! :D

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Don't you just hate websites that don't quote sources? :/

http://www.xbox.com/en-US/support/live/serviceissue.htm

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Me too! I bit excited too!

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V0id, Neons is a completely seperate news item, so there was no need for them to link to that page.

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What would you want them to say 'john doe of seattle washington who works on the 360 development team' well his job would not last much longer...

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source: http://www.computerandvideogames.com....php?id=178456

:)

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Rumours are a new 'ultimate' xbox 360, internal HD DVD drive, 320Gb hard drive, hi def sound, 1080p HDMI output, 65nm, near silent fan, on-board wireless.....

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.......cuddly toy, sandwich maker, coffee machine, er, did i say cuddly toy? :D ;) :)

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Yeah, I'm thinking some of it may be true, but all of it would be a miracle, but definitely worth swapping an older box for! :)

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I'm keeping my fingers crossed. ;)

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What, the same person that stated all was not needed in the PS3?

I wonder how many of these people will now go out and buy one if it does come out.

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I MIGHT consider, especially as my current console has RROD'd twice already

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Give it a rest, If we took this point up you would start to get very angry and start name-calling again. If you do not like criticism of the PS3 don't post comments likely to invoke it or negative comments about other consoles/members.

Moving on...

I personally hope it's something unexpected but very cool. The idea of it being 'important' suggests it more than simply another version of the console of which they updated recently. Not likely to be a major game as it's Bill Gates introducing it. I suspect a new service or function.

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I am hoping for more news on Microsoft Home Server, I would like to hear them show a commitment to further and frequent development. The potential for it excites me! I envision storing all my media on there and then having access to it from any device and computer in the home.

Already have this for videos in my current house, all stored on one computer, but this allows better management, a server would be dedicated so most investment would be made in additional hard-drives, would also allow a raid set up to secure the media better, an obvious problem with trying to move all your media onto a digital format.

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I am not sure it will simply be a new version of the console but a new service or changes to existing services/features.

Here we go again with the childish comments from shawty.

Neon may have said it all wasn't needed on the PS3 but if Microsoft did provide everything in on console then thats a good thing as they still provide consoles with different features ie the Arcade, Pro or Elite then if there was a full on Ultimate then all the better. Sony gives you one choice and that all! Doesn't mean any of us would get one.

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That was actually the point during that 'debate', that if you wanted HD-DVD you could go out and get the add on. Now (if it even comes) they could go get the uber-premium elite or what ever they are going to call it. The option to get a 360 without one will still be there.

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Im sorry, but this is the very person who slated everything about the PS3 including all off the features. And your having a go at me?

No doubt we will get asked to get back on topic, but it really riles me when you get a person like this.

Also, I have never posted negative comments about any console. I stick by the Ps3, as its my console of choice and I hate it when people start spreading false rumours or lies. Unlike some on here who constantly have hate for other consoles for no reason what so ever.

I have intrrest in the 360 and will likely buy an Elite this year sometime to go with my PS3, so might hold of if this Ultimate is true, all though it will be a bit pointless coming with a HD DVD now as its not used for games and in my opinion, I cant see HD DVD lasting much longer. I just find it strange why one box has it all and its crap and the other box now (not yet) has it all and its the next coming.

Scream all you want, its the truth and can be seen in past posts. If more people started acting like adults and their age, then there would be no reason for me to post on the subject.

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Id like to know how they are childish?

Persons posts how PS3 isnt all that and features are not worth it.

Xbox rumored to do the same, same person states "I'm keeping my fingers crossed."

It wasnt childish and if you find it childish, it speaks volumes of what you think. Its a fact of what said person thinks of the PS3, it isnt about choice at all, as you would simply just not buy one. Im stating that what has been said in the past about PS3's features, and now in the present, they might becoming to the 360, its th next coming.

You may find it childish, doesnt take away its fact.

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Im not just talking about one debate, Im talking about all the comments, even back 1 year ago on the PS3 and how it wasnt all needed. Seems the tables have turned, maybe it might not be needed, but now its on the 360, its got him exicted, speaks volumes to me.

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I'm sorry but what on earth has this got to do with the PS3? :confused:

I might think about selling my current xbox to get this new one if the rumours are true :)

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Some person said that all the extra features on the PS3 were not needed.

Now that they might be coming to the Xbox 360, he is basically excited.

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There was no reason for you to post on the subject, We were trying to having a topic about the possible news for the 360 and you came on and made a jibe at another member that was uncalled for. No one mentioned anything to do with the PS3. The only one acting like a child here is you.


I am excited about the news :dozey: I said that, it's difficult to misrepresent someone when all people need to do is go back on page. Actually, to make it easier i'll quote myself

At least quote me correctly. As for the features we said we did not need the features at the expense of price.

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he's an xbox fan-boy (neon btw). What do you expect. Just like your clearly a ps3 fan-boy. They both suck anyway. LONG LIVE NINTENDO! :P

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I wasnt actually qouting you, thats what I qouted NEONKNIGHT in my original post. I was never talking about you any posts in this thread, it was all aimed at NEONKNIGHT.

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Im not a fanboy of anything, I buy what I find is more attractive to me and buy the rest later. I dont think i will be buying a Wii though and if I do want a go, I will just borrow my sisters.

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Anyway, Other than the HD-DVD enabled xbox (which isnt as certain as it seems), what else could this be?

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To be honest, I dont know. I cant see it being the HD DVD as it is not used for games and never will be on the 360 and with the recent news about Warner Bros going Blu-ray, I have a hard time believing it is that.

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Me-too. Although it's still quite early, Blu-Ray and HD-DVD make up only a few % of disc sales so there is still a fight to win and this might help the HD-DVD group. For the games, they could release it on HD-DVD and DVD. One disc can contain both formats with the HD-DVD spec. But to be honest, no one is going to develop gig worth more content. The price of development is high enough.

Incidentally, This will be Bill Gates last CES keynote. I hope they give him a good send-off

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I can gaurantee games wont be made on HD DVD as one, they dont need to be as you can just have 2 DVD's, and two, it would be to expensive to develop on both formats.

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Shawty shut up. This is a post about news on the 360 nothing else.

I have posted this many times. People aren't saying the PS3 is rubbish or slagging it but just that Sony only do one version of the console where as Microsoft are giving you a choice, now if this news was about a new Ultimate console then people still have the choice of the basic Arcade console. Sony don't have anything like this that is all nothing less nothing more.

Now I am not a 360 fanboy as I own both consoles and have always bought every console around. But simply put the 360 is a better console at the moment due to the range and quality of games and its online service. Maybe in 6-12 months the PS3 will start to become better but at the moment it really doesn't offer anything better than the xbox.

Rant over back on topic.

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Dont tell me to shut up.

I think you need to read certain peoples posts, mainly NEONKNIGHT and TheBlueRaJa, to see that they have called the PS3 rubish, to them it was never about certain version of consoles, they just slagged it of and one of the slagging it got was you dont need Blu-ray etc etc. I was pointing out that NEONKNIGHT was now been hypocritical to now have his fingers crossed that the stuff not needed on the PS3 might be coming tot he 360. This isnt opinion, its actually fact. I found it intresting how someone could be so hypocritical.

In your opinion it doesnt offer anything better, some people think it does, or if not better similar/same or different.

And what do you mean, "Rant over back on topic." We were back on topic, you just wanted to tell me to shut up.

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Calm down. This thread is about rumoured important news for the Xbox 360. As we don't currently know what that news is, discussion of the PS3 is off topic. Get back on topic.

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:nono:

If you are going to post anything that isn't to do with the topic then I will tell you to *Shut up* and if you fail to abide by my or Stuarts request or argue with our request, I will shut you up on a more permanent basis. You have been warned.

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Wow! you can hear that Axe grinding away at 1000 paces. :D


Back on topic. Its great to see Microsoft giving the consumer more choice if the speculation and rumours are to be believed. I'm hoping that Microsoft will also make an announcement on ditching the DRM or a least finding a better way of content protection.

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LOL! Good 'un Just spotted you're post. :gpoint:

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Cease the baiting now.

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What was all that about? I was actually back on topic when someone suddenly comes and tells me to shut up. While having a word with me for going of topic, dont you think you should be having words with someone else for telling me to shut up.

Surely, doing what you have done is just going of topic even further, if you wanted to put me in my place surely do it on PM, more so when I had already gone back on topic.

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Piece of advice mate, quit now before your banned, its only a matter of time. :)

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I will tell you what that was all you about - your account is now suspended until futher notice. You will learn not to argue with a team decision shawty.

I will communicate with you how I like and you are in no position to dictate to me otherwise - I am the one wearing the team avatar.

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I wish Microsoft did what Apple do and have the Keynote in the morning. I don't wait till tommorow!! :(

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It's happening at 2:30 our time, when we wake tommorow we will know this and anything else microsoft are going to reveal! Let's hope its good and it's bill gates last time here as keynote speaker so let's hope they give him a good send-off!

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If or when my 360 dies and if I decide to get another, I'm still not sure if I'd get a HD one or not. I'm still totally happy with DVD quality films till something more clear cut comes my way (or a BR or HD winner). I have heard a lot of good things about Blu-ray quality wise though.

Still, you can't stop progress even though it is taking longer than I thought.

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If anybody is interested enough, you can watch the CES live at http://www.microsoft.com/ces/

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hmm interesting, i DID SAY a while back , it would be a good idea if NTL/tw/VM finally commissioned/buy in a new powerful STB that used the PPC/CELL and a good gfx card as its base, perhaps they should have listened to me instead of pushing through the antiquated massively underpowered mpeg2 only V+:

http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/06/b...l-ces-keynote/
"7:15PM PT - MGM! "Xbox Live will provide 2x on-demand content than any cable or sat provider. Our approach to TV isn't just through Xbox --

Media Center continues its success, and is on the vast majority of PCs in the market to date." Talking about Media Center Extender tech: "New extenders from Samsung and HP -- which we already heard about last week."

Finally Mediaroom (MSFT's awesome IPTV service): "First, we have tech called DVR anywhere -- distribute recorded content around the house."

Talking about interactive services with CNN. "The final announcement, last year we talked about the 360 being an STB -- this year we're excited to announce that BT will be the first to provide that capability. But a 360 and use it as an STB for your TV."
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i assume 'but' is a typo, and they mean 'buy'.

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http://www.gamasutra.com/php-bin/new...hp?story=16849
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At the keynote, Microsoft exec Robbie Bach said that with the new additions, the Live Marketplace will have "more than twice as much HD content as any cable provider."

The company also announced, turning to future IPTV developments via its Microsoft Mediaroom campaign, that UK cable provider British Telecom would soon be selling a specialized Xbox 360 with Mediaroom functionality built in. No similar announcement has yet been made for North America.

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other CES news
http://news.sel.sony.com/en/press_ro...ase/32521.html

SONY DEBUTS SUB $200 BD-ROM DRIVE FOR BLU-RAY MOVIE PLAYBACK ON THE PC

LAS VEGAS (CES Booth #14200), Jan. 6, 2008 – Sony Electronics today announced an internal BD-ROM drive that can upgrade an existing desktop computer into a high-definition Blu-ray Disc™ player, as well as a DVD and a CD player.

The new BDU-X10S BD-ROM drive comes with CyberLink’s PowerDVD BD Edition software for playback of commercial movie titles, recorded Blu-ray Disc home videos, DVD-ROMs and CD-ROMs.

“The BD-ROM drive’s sub-$200 price tag offers consumers a very viable option to discover and enjoy the nearly 500 high-definition Blu-ray Disc movies released to date,” said Bob DeMoulin,

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The BDU-X10S drive features a Serial ATA (SATA) interface and standard 5.25-inch form-factor for easy installation inside contemporary desktop PCs running the Microsoft® Windows Vista™ or Windows XP operating system.

The included CyberLink PowerDVD BD Edition software also supports playback of recorded Blu-ray Discs in MPEG-2 or H.264 format, standard DVD-Video discs or recorded DVDs encoded with MPEG-2 or AVCHD formats.

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If buying an XBox now I would love it to be HD. I have HD broadcast/DVR and a ready supply of HD or BR DVD from Netflix for no extra cost but cannot justify the cost of a standalone HD/BR DVD player at the moment when my progressive scan one does such a good job on SD DVD. Most wow at that picture and only when you switch over to an HD channel realise how much sharper HD takes it.

That said SD DVD for certain movies gives it a more cinematic look.

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So, what are the chances of VM jumping on the Xbox STB then? BT are said to be the "first provider" meaning others to follow???

:)

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Well all they added was more videos, which will properly be US only. Lame.

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Almost zero, I would have thought. They didn't even go for the mpeg4 version of the Scientific Atlanta Explorer box they used for the v+

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That's pretty awesome news. By a 'BT Specific' version, do you think it will have a bigger hard drive?

Will be watching this one with interest. Although if MS want to push the 360 as media STB, they'd better make it a darn sight quieter! My 175w Falcon still kicks up a fair racket.

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Agree yes, the ambient noise generated by the console is still quite significant even when idling. Definitely louder than my pc!

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The more I read about this 'important' announcement the more I'm thinking whats the point? Just reading through the article on the BBC web site, these I think are the main points.

(1) Unlike the dedicated set-top box the Xbox will not be able to receive or record live TV.

(2) To get the service, customers will have to first subscribe to BT broadband.

(3) Sales of BT Vision have been somewhat sluggish according to critics, with BT signing up around 100,000 subscribers since launching in November 2006

(4) People have to sign up to a 12 month broadband contract.

(5) The fact that it cannot offer the Freeview content or DVR (digital video recorder) functionality of the dedicated BT Vision set-top box - known as a V-box - may also prove a barrier.


Count me out then. :p:

Source: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/7178661.stm

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Well, if you're already on BT Broadband and have a 360 then it's a no-brainer. All of a sudden you've gained a library of on-demand movies and Premiership games. Nobodies going to subscribe to BT Broadband just for that - it's just a cherry.

After being their usual bombastic selves about IPTV, MS are realising how different the demands of the market are with respect to reliability and responsiveness. These are challenges the Xbox team have already faced (and failed, and fixed! ;)). The rollout of BT Vision is the first major implementation of their system. This Xbox 'option' is another baby step along the way.

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Not too sure that its even a 'no-brainer' even if you are on BT Broadband. Its a limited service using the xbox360 as it currently now stands technology wise. The aim of the xbox division as you have pointed out is to make the xbox360 a 'media entertainment centre' a 'hub' for all your needs. Its not quite there yet, maybe with xbox360 plus or whatever they call the next one in a few years time.

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wow that sounds like a beast!!!!

would be sweet if it had half of thoes things.

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@NeonKnight: The thing is, Mediaroom (MS IPTV platform) allows for a full suite of live channels in addition to the on demand stuff. Rather than jumping in head first with *just* IPTV, BT paired it with Freeview - a clever move in my opinion. However, as the system matures more, don't be surprised to see live channels start appearing on BT Vision...

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I'm sure BT are ok if you are unlucky enough not to live within a cabled area of the UK. :tu: With regards to the freeview you mentioned how does this affect what the BBC reported in my reply further up the page, see point number 5 with the 'limitations' of using the xbox360 ?

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surely MS and BT could release a USB Add-On combined with a bigger HDD to add freeview and PVR to the xbox360 alongside its on demand offerings, would make it more tempting and more like the media hub they are aiming for

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@Neon: What I'm saying is that BT will probably deliver actual live channels using the service.

When the BT Xbox Vision service actually launches, I'd be interesting to see what they're charging. I'd put pound to a pinch that if you've already got BT Broadband and an Xbox that they won't try to lock you into an 12 month contract for a small amount of extra contract.

I know MS are trumpeting it, but this is a baby step as I said before. But a good one.

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Fair enough. :)

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My dad got a bt vision box for £30, and I have to say it is very nice. Much more responsive to input than V+, it has hdmi and optical audio out and it doesn't cost a penny on a monthly basis. unless you order an on demand item (which my old man is only likely to do by accident.) I dont think my dad would want an xbox in his front room, he's already half deaf as it is! ;) (Disclaimer: I dont hate the 360, infact I have one and do use it from time to time :P )